Doing the Right Thing, Even When Inconvenient

Basecamp (formerly known as 37 Signals) is the focus of this engaging podcast episode. The host discusses a range of topics with Jason, including why measuring yourself against a number goal is not helpful, running a business, parenting, and more. The episode is sponsored by Metalab, a company that has helped design and build popular apps like Slack, Coin, and Oculus. The conversation starts with Jason's philosophy of always figuring out the right thing to do, even when it's inconvenient.