In this episode, Jesse and Lindsey talk through how Type 2s tend to relate to God. Then they interview musician Joy Ike. Joy talks about how she has often viewed service to be transactional and how that has carried over into her relationship with God. Everyone plays Trial By Trolley, will Joy allow knitting grannies to become zombies? Connect with Joy - https://www.joyike.com/ IG: @joyikemusic
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