The speaker values when people persuade them to change their mind and vice versa, not to win but to uphold the truth. They believe in the pursuit of truth and goodness and find it essential to engage in discussions with differing opinions to reach closer to the truth. Conflict with trust leads to the pursuit of truth, while conflict without trust results in politics. Trust is crucial for individuals to argue passionately for their beliefs, as it ultimately benefits the team or community by leading to a better understanding of the truth, even in times of political change.
Conflict with trust is the pursuit of truth or the best idea. Too many teams, families and friends stop short of the best answer because they "agree to disagree." Pat and Cody suggest a different approach - convince or be convinced.