There is this fourth state beyond thstate of limitation, and that is, any number of linguistic term you give, it will be limited because it's just words. But it is liberation, or moca, or nervanas. It is a, perhaps my favorite way to describe it is, in sanscrit iis called turia. Just fourth, just note, no name for it, no qualifications. Not liberation verse, this being imprisonment. It is just there. Is the same as the dream you had last night, just an elevated version. And that's right. You need to localize it in a person. Now we have something in that wav and it helps me experience