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#240 - UFO Physical Evidence, Aliens & The Vatican, Nazi Secret Experiments | Jesse Michels

Julian Dorey Podcast

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Jesse Michels on Snowden

  • Jesse Michels disagrees with Edward Snowden's decision to leak classified information to the Russians.
  • He acknowledges Snowden's idealistic motivations but criticizes his methods.
  • Michels believes Snowden's actions constitute spying rather than whistleblowing.
  • Julian Dorey counters that Snowden's plane was downed in Russia while en route to Ecuador.
  • They debate whether Snowden's leaks led to deaths, with Dorey claiming they did and Michels expressing skepticism.
  • Michels suggests Lou Elizondo's motive is to increase public understanding of UFOs without violating his oaths.
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