Ukrane Joine Nato

The ideal outcome for the west and for ukranians is a russian leader who says, ok, ukrane remain near the top of my strategic todo list. I think probably yesad, i think it's real titrope. You've got to walk here. And i think joe byden was absolutely right dismiss out of hand any talk of no fly zones and tha that kind of thing. The absolute worst case outcome for everybody is that this starts to escalate toward nuclear water. That has to be avoided at all costs.