Meaningful Music Over Fun

The speaker reflects on advising REM after 1996, emphasizing that they should not have their drummer quit for justifiable reasons. They note that REM's evolution from pioneering college rock to mainstream popularity might have prevented them from staying distinctly unique. The speaker comments on the band's financial success and signing a major contract with Warner, suggesting that they might have felt they 'made it' in terms of money. The speaker contrasts REM's approach with J Mascis from the band Dinosaur Jr., highlighting Mascis' belief in the importance and meaningfulness of music over having fun. They also touch upon the Melvins' philosophy of wanting to exist as a band for as long as possible without needing other jobs.