The Importance of Hanging Out With Non-Tech People

We speak with Noah Smith about our modern cold wars with China & Russia, the new right, and tech’s cultural & political shifts. If you’re looking for an ERP platform, check out our sponsor, NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen 

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) intro 

(01:50) sponsor 

(02:15) What determines a country’s success 

(06:00) Chinese collapse? 

(08:35) Why does Ukraine matter? 

(13:30) Can America be isolationist? 

(20:20) Are we in a Cold War with China? 

(25:45) Unpacking the new right 

(35:44) The future of wokeness 

(41:40) How Noah finds meaning in life (petting rabbits) 

(44:20) Noah defends his liberalism 

(53:00) American cope 

(57:00) Why American infrastructure sucks 

(01:01:00) Fake liberals 

(01:06:30) Why California is a one-party state 

(01:15:00) Tech’s political shift 

(01:20:00) Noah’s advice to tech people

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