In this new episode Steven sits down with the American rapper and songwriter Macklemore.

Ben Haggerty adopted the stage name of Macklemore when he began rapping at the age of 14, at the same time he was beginning his struggle with substance abuse. Ben released his debut album, ‘The Language of My World’, in 2005. However, his struggles with addiction threaten to halt his musical career and he entered rehab in 2008. He started collaborating with the producer Ryan Lewis in 2009 and the pair released their album, ‘The Heist’, in 2012. This album went on to win 4 Grammy Awards and become platinum certified. Since 2017, Ben has focused on his solo career, releasing the album ‘Gemini’ and launching his golf-inspired clothing brand Bogey Boys in 2021. He has just released his third solo album, ‘Ben’.

In this conversation Ben and Steven discuss topics, such as:

• Ben’s struggle with addiction and relapsing
• How to be there for someone struggling with the disease of addiction
• Knowing the difference between what you want in the moment vs in the long term
• Removing your ego and being present during the creative process
• The double edged sword of social media

You can listen to Macklemore’s new album, ‘Ben’, here: https://bit.ly/3oJlgPH

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