The speaker has immersed himself in the music and reflects on the gaps in the albums, considering the meaning behind the lyrics. He admits to not analyzing what others say and prefers to lock into the improvisation of jazz. He discusses the craving to make sense of things, but acknowledges that William Burroughs and other artists were not looking to make sense but were seeking new expressions. The speaker has never been analytical and mentions that art, like Cubism and Jackson Pollock, spoke to him at an early age without him understanding why. He compares not understanding art to reading Wittgenstein and shares a personal statement about feeling like he's thinking it while not understanding it. He emphasizes the experience of art, likening it to not needing to analyze music that deeply affects you.
Patti Smith has been at the vanguard of art, poetry, rock and roll, and other forms of self-expression since the 1960s. But this talk with Marc happens to be her very first one-on-one conversation done over Zoom. They talk about Patti's days living at the Hotel Chelsea, carrying on the legacy of the Beat Generation, and forming life-changing relationships with William Borroughs, Sam Shepard, Allen Ginsberg, and Bob Dylan, among others. Patti also recalls the most mortifying live performance moment of her career, which happened for all the world to see.
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