[[COVID-19 accentuated anti-elitism towards anti-science and polarization]]

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i would ask every one who has strongly held beliefs about what is or is not the right thing to do, in this case, for example, masking children. What evidence could i bring to the table that would suade you, no, actually, they shouldn't? And conversely, if you're the person who thinks that kids should not be massed, well, what evidence could i brng to thetable that would persuade you? Otherwise, then we're in the realm of science, and we just do the science,. You know, we just conduct the experiments or do the studies, and then maybe we can at least think rationally, from my point of view.

Sam Harris speaks with Nicholas Christakis about the lessons of the COVID pandemic. They discuss our failures to coordinate an effective response, the politics surrounding vaccination, vaccine efficacy, vaccine safety, how to think about scientific controversies, the epidemiology of excess deaths, transmission among the vaccinated, natural immunity, selection pressures and new variants, the failure of institutions, the lab-leak hypothesis, the efficacy of lockdowns, vaccine mandates, boosters, what would happen in a worse pandemic, and other topics.

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