
The World Unpacked
The World Unpacked is a biweekly foreign policy podcast hosted by Sophia Besch that breaks down the hottest global issues of today with experts, journalists, and policymakers who can explain what is happening, why it matters, and where we go from here. Tune in to get smart on foreign policy.
Latest episodes

Dec 5, 2016 • 21min
Perkovich and Sadjadpour on What a Trump Presidency Means for Iran and Nonproliferation
Carnegie Vice President for Studies George Perkovich and Senior Fellow Karim Sadjadpour discuss Iranian reactions to Trump’s election, possibilities for U.S.-Iranian relations and the international sanctions regime, and future of the Iran nuclear deal.

Nov 30, 2016 • 23min
Carothers and Kleinfeld on What a Trump Presidency Means for Populism and Rule of Law
As part of our series looking at what a Trump presidency might mean for different parts of the world, Carnegie Senior Vice President for Studies Thomas Carothers and Senior Fellow Rachel Kleinfeld discuss how the election of Donald Trump might affect global populist movements.

Nov 17, 2016 • 21min
Muasher, Dunne, and Bahout on What a Trump Presidency Means for the Middle East
In the first in our series looking at what a Trump presidency might mean for different parts of the world, Carnegie Vice President for Studies Marwan Muasher, Middle East Program Director Michele Dunne, and Visiting Scholar Joseph Bahout explain how Trump’s policies could impact the Middle East and how the region has reacted so far to his electoral victory.

Nov 4, 2016 • 30min
Tim Maurer and David Brumley on Cyber Security
Some of the fastest-changing technology is occurring in cyberspace, often outpacing existing norms and ethics around the use of such technology. Autonomous weapons are already a reality, but defense departments and politicians are only now beginning to grapple with how to use them. Before long, can we expect to see a weapon system that has no human at all in the decision chain? Tim Maurer, co-director of Carnegie Endowment’s Cyber Policy Initiative and David Brumley, director of Carnegie Mellon’s Security & Privacy Institute, sat down with Tom Carver to discuss these important issues.

Oct 20, 2016 • 15min
Debbie Gordon on Unconventional Oils and the Oil Climate Index
The world of oils is becoming increasingly complex. Compared to a decade ago when there were very few types of oils, new technologies such as fracking have allowed around 300 new oils to come on-stream. Figuring out which oils are the most carbon intensive – depending also on how they are refined and used – has become very complex but also very important for investors and regulatory agencies. Carnegie Endowment, in conjunction with Stanford University, and the University of Calgary has developed a first-of-its-kind Oil-Climate Index (OCI) to compare these resources. Tom Carver sat down with Debbie Gordon, the head of Carnegie’s Energy and Climate program to discuss the ways the OCI describes the new world of unconventional oils.

Sep 23, 2016 • 21min
George Perkovich and Toby Dalton on India-Pakistan Relations
The recent attacks in Kashmir, which left 18 Indian soldiers dead, has put the spotlight back on the tense and troubled relationship between India and Pakistan. Political friction between the two countries—both with nuclear capabilities—is high, and each terror attack that can seemingly trace its roots to Pakistan increases calls in India for military action against its neighbor. George Perkovich and Toby Dalton have just released a new book called Not War, Not Peace: Motivating Pakistan to Prevent Cross-Border Terrorism which discusses these very issues; they sat down with Tom Carver to discuss it.

Aug 25, 2016 • 13min
Doug Paal and Yukon Huang on G20
Douglas H. Paal discusses key issues for the 2016 G20 Summit in Hangzhou, China, with Yukon Huang, senior associate in Carnegie’s Asia program.

Aug 25, 2016 • 15min
Karim Sadjadpour on Iranian Elections
Karim Sadjadpour, an expert on Iranian politics, discusses the outcome of Iran’s February 2016 parliamentary elections and the near-term ramifications on domestic politics in the theocratic state.