

The CTO Show with Mehmet Gonullu
Mehmet Gonullu
Broadcasting from Dubai, The CTO Show with Mehmet explores the latest trends in technology, startups, and venture funding. Host Mehmet Gonullu leads insightful discussions with thought leaders, innovators, and entrepreneurs from diverse industries. From emerging technologies to startup investment strategies, the show provides a balanced view on navigating the evolving landscape of business and tech, helping listeners understand their profound impact on our world.
mehmet@yassiventures.com
mehmet@yassiventures.com
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Oct 30, 2025 • 44min
#534 The $5B Tax-Free Travel Tech Opportunity: Ameer Jumahboy on Digitizing Tourist Spending
Tourism is becoming a strategic economic engine for cities like Dubai, Singapore, Riyadh, and Milan. But one massive gap has been untouched: tax-free shopping.Every year, billions in VAT refunds leave local economies instead of being reinvested into retail and travel ecosystems.Ameer Jumahboy, Co-Founder & CEO of Utu, is changing that.He shares: • How digital tax-free systems work under the hood • Why airports are the next major retail battleground • How AI and data will transform travel spending behavior • Lessons from building with a second-generation founder and global retail pioneer (his father)This is a deep dive into a misunderstood, under-innovated, $5B opportunity.⸻👤 About Ameer JumahboyAmeer Jumahboy is the Co-Founder & CEO of Utu, a travel-fintech platform reimagining tax-free shopping.From Singapore to Dubai and Europe, Utu modernizes VAT refunds by turning them into instant retail value — boosting tourism spend and upgrading traveler experience.His co-founder is his father — the industry veteran who built two global tax-free giants (Global Blue & Planet). Together, they are scaling a third-generation travel retail model across continents.⸻🔑 Key Takeaways • The tax-free refund system is a massive under-innovated fintech layer • Digitization unlocks new value for travelers, governments, and retailers • Airports are evolving into data-first, conversion-driven retail hubs • Middle East destinations are redefining tourism infrastructure • Legacy industries need youthful vision + institutional experience⸻🎧 What You’ll Learn • How tax-free systems actually work — and why digital matters • Role of AI in travel retail personalization & spend prediction • Expansion strategy across GCC, Europe, and global hubs • How to build a business with family — and win • The psychology of travel spending and loyalty mechanics⸻🧭 Episode Highlights • (01:30) Ameer’s journey & building with his father • (05:00) The problem with legacy tax-free systems • (09:15) Product-market fit after multiple iterations • (12:50) Stakeholders in tax-free innovation • (18:20) Why GCC is primed for travel tech leadership • (23:10) Cracking the UAE retail ecosystem through Gold Souk • (27:40) Data, AI, and the next evolution of airport retail • (34:10) Competition, first-mover advantage & innovation culture • (39:00) Vision: a global travel-commerce layer⸻🔗 Resources Mentioned • Utu — https://utu.global/ • Global Blue & Planet (industry context)Ameer’s Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ameerjumabhoy/

Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 9min
#533 From Code to AI Teammates: How Artur Rivilis Is Reimagining Logistics and the Future of Work
In this episode, Mehmet sits down with Art Rivilis, CTO of Augment, to explore how AI is moving beyond copilots and into the era of AI teammates — intelligent agents that think, act, and collaborate like humans.Art shares his journey from immigrant engineer to CTO, the lessons learned through two major acquisitions (Shopify and Flexport), and what it really takes to lead engineering teams through hypergrowth and M&A.From redefining logistics through AI to tackling the hard problems of workflow automation and prompt design, this conversation unpacks how today’s CTOs can build systems — and teams — that scale with intelligence, not just speed.⸻👤 About the GuestArt Rivilis is the Chief Technology Officer at Augment, a pioneering AI company building intelligent teammates for the logistics and freight industry.With 20 years of experience in engineering and product leadership, Art has held pivotal roles at VMware, Flixster, Symphony, Deliver (acquired by Shopify), and Flexport.His expertise spans distributed systems, startup scaling, and AI-driven automation.⸻🚀 Key Takeaways • From Code to Leadership: How a lifelong engineer transitions from building software to building teams. • Leading Through Acquisitions: Lessons from being acquired twice and integrating engineering cultures. • Beyond Copilots: Why the next wave of AI isn’t about assistance, but collaboration. • AI in Logistics: How Augment is using agentic AI to revolutionize freight and supply chain operations. • Prompting for Precision: Why writing great prompts may be the hardest skill in the age of AI. • Scaling Teams, Scaling Trust: The organizational inflection points at 100+ engineers — and how to maintain clarity and culture.⸻🎓 What You’ll Learn • What it takes to lead a startup through two acquisitions and come out stronger. • How AI teammates differ from copilots — and why that matters for the future of work. • The real-world challenges of integrating AI into legacy industries like logistics. • Why prompt engineering and human context remain essential in building reliable AI systems. • How CTOs can prepare for the agentic AI revolution — where systems act, not just assist.⸻🕒 Episode Highlights (Timestamps for YouTube & Spotify)00:00 – Intro & what to expect in this episode02:00 – Art’s early passion for tech and first steps as an engineer09:00 – From engineer to leader: why he became a CTO17:00 – The challenges of being on the “acquired” side of M&A25:00 – Integrating engineering teams and maintaining trust33:00 – The 100-person rule: when to scale and when to delegate37:00 – What Augment is building and why logistics is ripe for AI45:00 – How the logistics industry is responding to AI adoption53:00 – Can agentic AI transform other verticals?57:00 – The next frontier: prompts, reasoning, and superintelligence1:04:00 – Final reflections and where to find Art⸻🔗 Resources Mentioned • Augment – Official Website: https://www.goaugment.com/ • The Innovator’s Dilemma by Clayton Christensen • Art Rivilis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arturrivilis/

Oct 25, 2025 • 41min
#532 Rewriting the Rulebook: Carina Negreanu on How AI is Transforming Legal Tech
In this episode, Mehmet Gonullu sits down with Carina Negreanu, CTO of Robin AI, to explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping the legal industry. From her roots in physics and machine learning to leading one of the most innovative legal tech companies, Carina shares how Robin AI is using AI to simplify contracts, enhance trust, and improve lawyer productivity.The conversation dives deep into the intersection of AI, law, and human judgment, discussing the challenges of accuracy, bias, verification, and the evolving role of co-pilots and agents in legal workflows.⸻About Carina NegreanuCarina Negreanu is the CTO of Robin AI, a fast-growing legal tech company transforming how organizations manage contracts. Before joining Robin AI, she was Principal Research Manager at Microsoft Research, where she led groundbreaking work on formula generation and co-generation for Excel. Carina holds a PhD in Physics, where she studied Einstein’s General Relativity systems — a foundation that shaped her rigorous, data-driven approach to AI.⸻Key Takeaways • AI as an Enabler, Not a Replacement – Tools should empower lawyers to verify results and enhance confidence, not automate judgment. • Verification First Mindset – Robin AI’s approach builds user trust through transparency and feedback loops. • Bridging Accuracy and Bias – Continuous improvement and human oversight are essential for ethical AI adoption. • The Build vs. Buy Debate in AI – Why enterprises should evaluate long-term maintenance, model evolution, and vendor credibility. • The Adoption Challenge – AI success depends as much on user education and expectation-setting as on the technology itself. • Legal Co-Pilots & AI Agents – The next frontier: workflow automation that simplifies contract negotiation and legal research. • Personalization is the Future – AI that understands user preferences and adapts over time will redefine the legal workspace.⸻What You’ll Learn • How Robin AI automates and verifies complex contract review workflows • The importance of human-in-the-loop AI for high-stakes decisions • Why enterprise AI adoption struggles — and how to fix it • How legal copilots and agents are redefining trust, transparency, and productivity • The role of personalization and verification in next-gen AI systems⸻Episode Highlights (Timestamps)00:02 — Carina’s journey from physics to AI leadership00:05 — How Robin AI simplifies contract workflows00:09 — Tackling accuracy and bias in legal tech00:13 — Build vs. Buy: navigating AI decision-making00:18 — Why enterprise AI adoption often fails00:27 — The rise of legal copilots and workflow agents00:34 — The future of interoperability and AI ethics00:37 — Personalization as the next big leap in AI00:39 — Carina’s advice for CTOs evaluating AI partners⸻Resources Mentioned • Robin AI: https://robinai.com/ – Learn more about Carina’s company and its Legal Intelligence Platform • Carina Negreanu on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carina-suzana-negreanu/

Oct 23, 2025 • 60min
#531 Cooperative AI: Mark Vange on Building Human-Centered Automation
In this episode of The CTO Show with Mehmet, we sit down with Mark Vange, founder of Autom8ly and former CTO at Electronic Arts, to explore what he calls “cooperative AI.”Mark shares how decades of experience in gaming, enterprise software, and automation shaped his belief that the true power of AI lies not in replacing humans but in partnering with them.From building video games at 13 to running global tech teams at EA and now leading AI-driven automation across industries, Mark explains how trust, context, and human design principles drive adoption and ROI.⸻👤 About Mark VangeMark Vange is a technologist, entrepreneur, and founder of Autom8ly, a platform that helps businesses implement AI automation through partnerships with vertical experts.He previously served as Chief Technology Officer at Electronic Arts, guiding the company’s transition from boxed titles to online, mobile, and social games.Today, Mark focuses on bridging AI’s technical potential with real-world business outcomes — building what he calls “a post-code world” where trust and attention are the new currencies.⸻💡 Key Takeaways • Cooperative AI > Autonomous AI: The future of automation lies in AI that works with people, not instead of them. • The Post-Code World: Code is no longer the moat — trust, domain knowledge, and market access are. • Adoption Through ROI: Start with tasks nobody likes doing; deliver measurable value fast. • Agility Re-Defined: Speed today isn’t about writing code — it’s about adapting architectures, partners, and trust frameworks. • Compliance as an Enabler: Secure, compliant, and explainable AI wins enterprise adoption. • Education Before Implementation: Clarity on the “why” behind automation is more valuable than hype or dashboards.⸻🎧 What Listeners Will Learn • How Autom8ly’s partnership-driven model helps vertical experts scale with AI. • The nine-step framework for identifying automation opportunities that deliver ROI. • Why “vibe coding” is a trap — and what real engineering looks like in a cooperative AI world. • How encrypted retrieval-augmented generation (RAG) enables privacy-first healthcare use cases. • Why trust and attention now matter more than algorithms or lines of code.⸻🕒 Episode Highlights00:02 — Mark’s journey from video-game prodigy to EA CTO00:08 — How Autom8ly partners with industry experts to scale AI solutions00:15 — Defining “Cooperative AI” and why it outperforms autonomous systems00:19 — Human trust and the psychology of AI adoption00:25 — Compliance and agility: balancing speed with enterprise trust00:33 — Building configurable, LLM-agnostic AI systems00:37 — The rise of the post-code world and the new moats of trust and access00:42 — Encrypted RAG in healthcare: AI with privacy by design00:46 — Advice for founders: start with real problems, not tech trends00:50 — AI buzzwords to ignore and why clarity beats vibes⸻🧭 Resources Mentioned • Autom8ly.com — Mark’s company website • Mark Vange on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markvange • Autom8ly on Medium: https://medium.com/autom8ly

Oct 21, 2025 • 59min
#530 Radical Clarity: Pete Steege on How Accidental CEOs Simplify to Grow
In this episode of The CTO Show with Mehmet, host Mehmet Gonullu sits down with Pete Steege, Founder of B2B Clarity and author of Radical Clarity. Pete helps “accidental CEOs” — technical experts who suddenly find themselves leading companies — move from chaos to focus by simplifying what matters most.They explore how meaning, empathy, and intentional leadership drive business growth, why founders must rediscover their true story, and how doing less can unlock exponential results.⸻👤 About Pete SteegePete Steege is the Founder of B2B Clarity, a consultancy helping B2B tech CEOs find clarity and focus in their business strategy and messaging. A former engineer turned advisor and author, Pete guides technical leaders to uncover the “why” behind their business and communicate it with radical simplicity.He’s also the author of Radical Clarity: Simplify to Grow, which offers frameworks for CEOs to align their team, culture, and growth around purpose.⸻💡 Key Takeaways • The concept of the Accidental CEO — when expertise turns into leadership. • Why doing less often accelerates growth. • The power of defining your company’s “true story” and bullseye market. • How empathy and generosity shape authentic leadership. • Why founders should say “no” more often — and how clarity becomes their compass. • Balancing authenticity and AI in the noisy digital age.⸻🎓 What You’ll Learn • How to identify your true purpose as a founder or CEO. • Practical ways to simplify your operations and messaging. • The mindset shift from expert to leader. • How radical clarity drives alignment across culture, customers, and growth.⸻🕒 Episode Highlights • 00:02:00 — What it means to be an “accidental CEO.” • 00:04:00 — The inspiration behind Radical Clarity. • 00:08:00 — The role of empathy and generosity in leadership. • 00:12:00 — Why doing less creates space for meaning and growth. • 00:24:00 — Authenticity, intention, and generosity as a CEO mindset. • 00:39:00 — How to stay human in the AI-driven world. • 00:50:00 — The Accidental CEO Audit and how Pete works with founders.⸻🔗 Resources Mentioned • Book: Radical Clarity: Simplify to Grow — https://www.b2b-clarity.com/books/radical-clarity/ • Website: https://www.b2b-clarity.com/cto— access Pete’s frameworks, audit, and contact info.

Oct 18, 2025 • 60min
#529 AI Meets Talent: Federico Ramallo on Automating Tech Hiring Without Losing the Human Touch
In this episode, Mehmet sits down with Federico Ramallo, founder of Density Labs and Prevetted AI, to explore how technology, culture, and human connection intersect in building world-class engineering teams.From managing nearshore teams in Mexico to scaling engineering partnerships for U.S. startups, Federico shares the secrets behind a 6-year average retention rate, and why trust, ownership, and transparent communication are the real differentiators.They also dive into how AI is reshaping technical hiring, when to trust automation, and why the human layer still matters more than ever in the future of work.⸻👤 About the GuestFederico Ramallo is a serial entrepreneur, software engineer, and founder of Density Labs, a boutique engineering firm connecting U.S. companies with top Latin American talent, and Prevetted AI, a platform using AI and human judgment to screen and match world-class engineers.He is also co-author of Open the Valve: The New Path to Creative Play and host of the Prevetted Podcast.⸻🧩 Key Takeaways • How to build remote engineering teams that last for years, not months • Why empathy and feedback loops are key to retention • How to balance human screening with AI automation • The cultural nuances that make or break nearshore success • Why honesty and transparency are non-negotiable in global teams • What AI can and can’t replace in tech hiring⸻📚 What Listeners Will Learn • The operational systems behind high-performing global teams • How startups can use AI responsibly in recruitment • The power of under-promising and over-delivering in remote work • Practical lessons for CTOs hiring beyond their borders⸻🕒 Episode Highlights (Timestamps)00:00 – Introduction and Federico’s journey from Argentina to Mexico04:00 – Building Density Labs: solving the outsourcing “trust gap”10:00 – Quality, ownership, and feedback in remote engineering15:00 – How Prevetted AI combines AI agents with human screening23:00 – The impact of culture and communication on remote success27:00 – Achieving 6-year retention in engineering teams35:00 – Training programs and building future-ready engineers43:00 – Honest conversations about AI in recruitment47:00 – Will AI replace engineers? The real answer49:00 – Lessons from cross-border collaboration55:00 – Federico’s books, podcast, and creative philosophy⸻🔗 Resources Mentioned • Prevetted AI: https://prevetted.ai/ • Density Labs: https://densitylabs.io/ • Open the Valve: The New Path to Creative Play (book) • Prevetted Podcast: https://prevetted.ai/podcasthttps://www.linkedin.com/in/framallo/

Oct 16, 2025 • 52min
#528 Error Isn’t the Enemy: Eckhard Jann on What Aviation Can Teach Startups About Failure and Growth
In this episode of The CTO Show with Mehmet, host Mehmet Gonullu sits down with Eckhard Jann — former commercial pilot, safety manager, author of Error One, and host of the Error One podcast — to explore how lessons from aviation safety can transform leadership, culture, and decision-making in startups.Drawing from 30 years in the cockpit and years of investigating human error, Eckhard unpacks why mistakes are inevitable but manageable, how psychological safety shapes resilient teams, and why “error culture” may be the missing ingredient in modern business leadership.⸻👤 About the GuestEckhard Jann is a business consultant, author, and former commercial pilot with three decades of aviation experience. His bestselling book Error One and his podcast of the same name bring the science and psychology of human error to a global audience. Eckhard’s mission: to help leaders, founders, and teams build systems that learn before they fail.⸻💡 Key Takeaways • ✈️ Aviation’s secret: Every procedure, rule, and checklist was “written in blood” — mistakes are teachers, not threats. • 🧠 Error chains: Big failures are never caused by one mistake — they result from small, ignored signals that compound over time. • 🗣️ Culture over blame: Teams must be empowered to talk about errors without fear; silence is the real danger. • 🤝 Psychological safety: Great leaders invite criticism, feedback, and correction from everyone — even the youngest team member. • 🚀 Startup relevance: Just like in aviation, startups thrive when they treat missteps as learning loops, not career-ending moments.⸻🎓 What You’ll Learn • The concept of “Error One” and how to identify early warning signs in teams and organizations • How aviation built a resilient safety culture and what startups can borrow from it • Why blame culture kills innovation • How psychology and systems thinking can prevent failure before it happens • The role of human creativity in an AI-driven world where automation can’t anticipate the unexpected⸻🕒 Episode Highlights (Timestamps) • 00:00 – Introduction and Eckhard’s journey from pilot to author • 03:00 – Why aviation learned safety “written in blood” • 07:00 – The inevitability of human error and how we grow from it • 11:00 – The iceberg analogy: visible accidents vs. hidden small mistakes • 14:00 – Spotting early signals: empowering teams to speak up • 18:00 – The psychology of fear and building error-safe cultures • 23:00 – What startups can learn from cockpit teamwork • 30:00 – Leadership humility and feedback loops • 33:00 – SpaceX vs. Boeing: two mindsets on risk and failure • 35:00 – Why AI can’t replace human creativity in crisis situations • 41:00 – Inside the Error One podcast and its most powerful stories • 46:00 – Final reflections: separating the error from the person⸻🔗 Resources Mentioned • 📘 Error One by Eckhard Jann — https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DM6Z16GL?dplnkId=c43308fc-bc40-4317-b5af-eebb9c49a3ea&nodl=1 • 🎧 Error One Podcast — https://open.spotify.com/show/09uOW1cp2kQ3Qx91kjQslG?si=4OIu_CbUS-qtdk_FkePsaA • 🌐 http://www.errorone.net/ Training: https://aviationinvestigation.com/en/willkommen-beim-aviation-investigation-training-english/ • 🔗 Connect with Eckhard on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eckhardjann

Oct 14, 2025 • 44min
#527 Building for Tomorrow: Sebastian Gierlinger on Engineering Agility, AI, and the Composable Future
In this episode, Mehmet sits down with Sebastian Gierlinger, VP of Engineering at Storyblok, to explore what it really takes to build software and teams that stand the test of time. From composable architectures to developer-first design, Sebastian shares practical wisdom for engineering leaders navigating complexity, scalability, and AI adoption.The conversation moves beyond code—into mindset, balance, and how curiosity fuels sustainable innovation in a fast-changing world.⸻👤 About the GuestSebastian Gierlinger is the VP of Engineering at Storyblok, the leading headless CMS platform empowering developers and marketers to create, manage, and scale digital experiences seamlessly. At Storyblok, Sebastian leads teams across product, design, developer experience, and infrastructure—driving the evolution of modern content architecture and developer workflows.https://www.linkedin.com/in/sgierlinger/⸻💡 Key Takeaways • Composable Thinking: Why modular architectures give freedom, flexibility, and future-proof scalability. • Developer-First Philosophy: How to balance developer experience with marketing and design usability. • AI in Engineering: Where AI adds real value—from bug hunting to workflow acceleration—and where caution is still needed. • Fighting Complexity Creep: Why simplicity in infrastructure often wins over “trend-driven” tech adoption. • Building for Tomorrow: How to leave your path open—designing systems that adapt rather than age. • Shape Up Methodology: How Storyblok keeps developer motivation high and stress low with six-week build cycles. • Leadership in Tech: From learning Rust to staying relevant—why curiosity is a core trait of modern engineering leaders.⸻🎯 What You’ll Learn • The mindset shift from monolithic systems to composable, headless architectures. • The role of developer-first platforms in scaling innovation. • Real-world examples of cost and performance gains from digital modernization. • How to lead engineering teams through AI-driven change without losing quality or morale. • Why being technology-agnostic is essential for long-term sustainability.⏱️ Episode Highlights00:00 — Introduction and guest overview02:00 — What is Storyblok and how headless CMS transforms content delivery04:30 — Moving from legacy to composable architecture06:00 — What “developer-first” really means09:00 — The secret to creating unfair advantages in engineering11:00 — When to trust AI—and when to stay cautious14:00 — The rise of “bug hunting” with LLMs15:00 — Understanding “complexity creep” in DevOps19:00 — Building today with tomorrow in mind22:00 — Customer success story: Diamond Shipyards transformation25:00 — How AI and automation are reshaping content workflows27:00 — Balancing delivery pressure and team motivation30:00 — Using Shape Up methodology for sustainable pace31:00 — How engineers can grow into leadership34:00 — Framework fatigue, tech choices, and staying agnostic40:00 — Why outdated libraries can break your security frameworks42:00 — Final advice: stay curious, stay flexible, build sustainably🧭 Resources Mentioned • Storyblok: https://www.storyblok.com/ • Shape Up Methodology by 37signals • ISO/IEC 27001 Security Certification Framework

Oct 11, 2025 • 48min
#526 Digitizing Business in Dubai: Moosa Alavi on ERP, Cloud, and the Future of SMEs
In this episode of The CTO Show with Mehmet, we dive into the digital transformation wave reshaping businesses in the UAE and beyond. Mehmet sits down with Moosa Alavi, Founder & CEO of Techbot ERP, to explore how cloud-based ERP solutions are empowering small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) to automate operations, make smarter decisions, and embrace the future of AI-driven business.From his 25-year journey in the signage industry to founding a leading ERP implementation company, Moosa shares firsthand lessons on scaling, cost-cutting through automation, and why ERP is no longer optional for modern businesses.⸻👤 About the GuestMoosa Alavi is the Founder & CEO of Techbot ERP, a Dubai-based company that helps businesses digitize operations and optimize performance through ERP implementation.He’s also a Gold Partner of DU (Odoo) and an active member of professional communities like BNI and IPA, championing mentorship, collaboration, and SME growth across the GCC.https://www.linkedin.com/in/moossa-m-alavi/⸻💡 Key Takeaways • The UAE’s $3.5B ERP market is booming — driven by digital transformation and compliance needs. • Cloud adoption and AI integration are revolutionizing how SMEs operate and make decisions. • A well-implemented ERP can reduce manual tasks, cut costs, and increase sales performance by up to 20%. • ERP isn’t just for big corporations — it’s now affordable, modular, and scalable for SMEs. • Moosa’s story proves that innovation often starts from personal pain points.⸻🧠 What You’ll Learn • How ERP and automation streamline business workflows. • Why digital transformation in the UAE is accelerating. • How AI and analytics are reshaping ERP systems. • The importance of professional communities for SME founders. • Lessons from scaling Techbot ERP across GCC and beyond.⸻🔍 Episode Highlights with Timestamps[00:00] — Welcome to The CTO Show with Mehmet[02:00] — Moosa’s journey: from signage manufacturing to ERP founder[05:00] — Discovering the gaps that led to Techbot ERP[09:00] — Why digital transformation is more than a buzzword[11:00] — Cloud, compliance, and cost-cutting: The real ERP drivers[15:00] — How going paperless boosts credibility and customer trust[18:00] — Understanding DU partnership and Odoo implementation[24:00] — Real business results: saving time, money, and manpower[29:00] — CRM and automation’s impact on sales growth[31:00] — The rise of AI-powered ERP and predictive insights[34:00] — Techbot’s expansion plans across GCC, Asia, and Europe[36:00] — The power of mentorship and community networks[41:00] — Final advice: ERP as a growth catalyst, not a cost⸻🧰 Resources Mentioned • Techbot ERP Website https://techboterp.com/

Oct 9, 2025 • 44min
#525 Can Privacy Survive AI Surveillance? Kee Jefferys on Decentralized Messaging and Digital Freedom
In this episode of The CTO Show with Mehmet, we dive into one of the most pressing questions of our time: Can privacy survive in the age of AI surveillance?Joining Mehmet is Kee Jefferys, Co-Founder of Session, a decentralized, privacy-first messaging platform built on blockchain technology. Kee breaks down how Session protects users from metadata tracking, how it differs from mainstream encrypted messengers, and why the future of secure communication depends on decentralization and design — not regulation.From AI’s hunger for data to global legislative pushes for backdoors, this episode exposes the real privacy battleground — and the technologies fighting back.⸻👤 About Kee JefferysKee Jefferys is the Co-Founder of Session, a decentralized private messaging app built on blockchain technology. With over seven years in the secure communications and crypto space, Kee’s work focuses on end-to-end encryption, metadata protection, and decentralized network infrastructure that prioritizes user anonymity.https://www.linkedin.com/in/kee-j-090502157/⸻💡 Key Takeaways • Metadata is the real privacy leak: Even if messages are encrypted, metadata reveals who talks to whom, when, and how often. • Decentralization is the defense: Session’s community-run node network eliminates centralized data collection points. • AI’s new appetite — your chats: As AI companies run out of training data, chat data is the next frontier. • No phone numbers, no emails, no tracking: Session removes identity links at signup, using seed phrases for recovery. • Privacy vs. policy: Governments in the UK, Australia, and EU are moving toward “chat control” legislation that could mandate surveillance backdoors. • Session’s model: A freemium app sustained by a decentralized token economy — built to stay independent, not ad-driven.⸻🎓 What You’ll Learn • How blockchain can power real-world privacy tools • The difference between encryption and metadata protection • Why AI surveillance is escalating the privacy arms race • How decentralized infrastructure creates resilience • What “Session Pro” means for sustainability without compromising anonymity⸻⏱️ Episode Highlights • [00:02:00] Kee’s journey from crypto networks to founding Session • [00:06:00] The dangers of metadata collection • [00:09:00] Governments pushing for encryption backdoors • [00:13:00] How Session’s decentralized nodes ensure privacy • [00:19:00] Scaling to 1M+ users without phone numbers or servers • [00:25:00] AI’s growing role in surveillance and data mining • [00:30:00] Building a sustainable, non-profit, privacy-first business • [00:36:00] The frictionless onboarding experience and UX design • [00:39:00] Kee’s advice for anyone starting their privacy journey⸻🔗 Resources Mentioned • Session — Private Messaging App • ProtonMail — Encrypted Email • Tutanota — Secure Mail Alternative


