
The Stack Overflow Podcast
For more than a dozen years, the Stack Overflow Podcast has been exploring what it means to be a software developer and how the art and practice of programming is changing our world. From Rails to React, from Java to Node.js, join the Stack home team for conversations with fascinating guests to help you understand how technology is made and where it’s headed.
Latest episodes

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Jan 17, 2023 • 28min
Flake it till you make it - how to handle flaky tests
There is a ton of great research to be found on Prof. Kapfhammer's website, including: Flaky Tests: Finding and fixing unpredictable and harmful test casesDatabase Testing: Automatically testing relational database schemasWeb Testing: Detecting and repairing poor responsive web page layoutWe've written a bit about how Stack Overflow is upping its unit testing game and how you can evaluate multiple assertions in a single test.Thanks to our lifeboat badge winner of the week, Survivor, for answering the question: Is it possible to find out if a value exists twice in an arraylist?

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Jan 13, 2023 • 26min
Commit to something big: all about monorepos
Juri is currently Director of Developer Experience (Global) and Director of Engineering (Europe) at Nrwl, founded by former Googlers/Angular core team members Jeff Cross and Victor Savkin.Nrwl has compiled everything you need to know about monorepos, plus the tools to build them, here.Connect with Juri on LinkedIn or explore his website.Shoutout to Lifeboat badge winner penguin2718 for their answer to Storing loop output in a dataframe in R.

Jan 11, 2023 • 29min
Taming multiple design systems with a single plugin
Any large organization with multiple products faces the challenge of keeping their brand identity unified without denying each product its own charisma. That’s where a design system can help developers avoid reinventing the wheel every time, say, a new button gets created On this sponsored episode of the podcast, we talk with Demian Borba, Principal Product Manager, and Kelvin Nguyen, Senior Engineering Manager, both of Intuit. We chat about how their design system is evolving into a platform, how AI keeps their brand consistent, and why a design system doesn’t have to solve every use case. Episode notesTreating a design system as a platform means providing a baseline of tokens—colors, typography, themes—and allowing developers to deviate so long as they use the right tokens. Alongside a company-wide push towards greater AI usage, Intuit’s design system team is beginning to leverage AI to help developers make better design decisions. As an example, they’re including typeahead functionality to suggest possible solutions to design decisions. The team is using a Figma plugin to manage a lot of the heavy lifting. Their presentation at Config 2022 built a lot of excitement for what’s possible. Congrats to RedVelvet, who won a great question badge for The most efficient way to remove first N elements in a list?Find Kelvin and Demian on Linkedin.

Jan 10, 2023 • 20min
From CS side project to the C-suite
LogRocket helps software teams create better experiences through a combination of session replay, error tracking, and product analytics.LogRocket’s machine-learning layer, Galileo, cuts through the noise generated by conventional error monitoring and analytics tools to identify critical issues affecting users.LogRocket is hiring, so check out their open roles or connect with Matt Arbesfeld on LinkedIn. You can also give LogRocket a free trial.

Jan 6, 2023 • 30min
Our favorite apps, books, and games of 2023
Adobe closed out 2022 and celebrated 40 years with an employee-only Katy Perry concert. Related: Ceora makes the case for virtual concerts.DeepMind is teaching AI to play soccer, which naturally makes us think of QWOP.ICYMI: Ghost calls out Substack and Substack responds.BeReal is the iPhone app of the year. But not even Resident Youth Ceora knows anyone who actually uses it.Some 2023 recommendations from the team: Ceora recommends Realworld (not to be confused with BeReal), an app that guides you through tasks and decisions big and small, from deciding on health insurance to improving your credit.Cassidy recommends Bird by Bird: Some Instructions on Writing and Life, by Anne Lamott.Matt suggests fellow side hustlers check out The Freelance Manifesto: A Field Guide for the Modern Motion Designer by School of Motion founder Joey Korenman.Ben recommends Tomorrow, Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, a terrific novel about a love triangle between indie video game creators, especially fun if you grew up with Oregon Trail, Myst, and Super Mario.

Jan 4, 2023 • 26min
The future of software engineering is powered by AIOps and open source
Over the past five years, Intuit went through a total cloud transformation—they closed the data centers, built out a modern SaaS development environment, and got cloud native with foundational building blocks like containers and Kubernetes. Now they are looking to continue transforming into an AI-driven organization that leverages the data they have to make their customers’ lives easier. Along the way, they realized that their internal systems have the same requirements to leverage the data they have for AI-driven insights. Episode notesWadher notes that Intuit uses development velocity, not developer velocity. The thinking is that an engineering org should focus on shipping products and features faster, not making individual devs more productive. No, the robots aren’t coming for your jobs. Wadher says their AI strategy relies on helping experts make better insights. The goal is to arm those experts, not replace them. In terms of sheer volume, the AI/ML program at Intuit is massive. They make 58 billion ML predictions daily, enable 730 million AI-driven customer interactions every year, and maintain over two million personalized AI models. Intuit’s not here to hoard secrets. They’ve outsourced their DevOps pipeline tool, Argo. They found that a lot of companies used it for AI and data pipelines, and have recently launched Numaproj, which open sources a lot of the tools and capabilities that they use internally. Congrats to Lifeboat badge winner Bill Karwin for their answer to Understanding MySQL licensing.

Jan 3, 2023 • 24min
From life without parole to startup CTO
If you want to read more about Jessica, you can check out the blog we worked on together for the launch of our Overflow Offline initiative. If you've ever wondered what it's like learning to code from an XML file of raw Stack Overflow data, be sure to check this episode out.You can learn more about the Supreme Court case that led to Jessica's release here.Her company's mission is to build a better justice system from the inside, specifically by educating incarcerated individuals so they can teach the next generation and have valuable skills upon release. Read more about Unlocked Labs here.Our lifeboat badge of the week goes to mx0 for answering the question: How do you extract the 'src' attribute from an 'img' tag using Beautiful Soup?Follow Ben on Twitter and if you enjoy the show, be sure to leave us a rating and review.

Dec 20, 2022 • 25min
Let's talk about our favorite terminal tools
You can learn more about Anthony here.His favorite terminal tool at the moment is Warp, which describes itself as "a blazingly fast, Rust-based terminal reimagined from the ground up to work like a modern app." His personal website features a live chat function. Sometimes it's actually Tony, sometimes it's just a bot. No lifeboat badge today. We''ll be taking a break for the holidays and will resume episodes in 2023. Until then, enjoy the holidays.

Dec 16, 2022 • 17min
An honest end-of-year rundown
Ben asks Matt to explain Mastodon to him like he’s five. Matt says the experience feels a lot like…LinkedIn?Matt explains that he took social media apps off his phone for a while…just to chill out. (Ed. note, they're already back on.)We cover the latest AI to emerge that can write essays, jokes, and yes, some code.While everyone’s confused about the state of social media and AI chat, physicists have created a wormhole using a quantum computer. (Though it may have been a publicity stunt.)Follow Ben and Matt.Shout out to Lifeboat Badge winner ralf htp for their answer to the question ‘how to listen for and react to Ace Editor change events.’ Your answer has helped more than 20,000+ people, so rock on.

Dec 13, 2022 • 24min
Talking about drag and drop tech stacks with Builder.io's Steve Sewell
Steve was working as an engineering manager at ShopStyle and found that an increasing amount of his team's time was spent working on custom requests from departments like marketing and sales. They tried moving to a headless CMS but the data and components couldn't keep up with ever evolving needs. They wanted a drag and drop system connected to their code, data, and components.This pain point inspired him strike out on his own to create a new product. The vision was a tool that would allow colleagues from across a company to make changes to web pages without requesting dev time, but would also ensure that any changes made would be up to the standards of the design department and not introduce errors that engineering would then have to fix. Hence, the company's pitch for a plug & play system that integrates with your existing sites & apps. It relies on a few key ideas:API-based infrastructure that is native to your tech stackWorks with any frontend or backendBuild with your own data, like product catalogs or customer data platforms, to create rich, dynamic experiencesYou can check it out for yourself over at Builder.io.Follow Steve on Twitter and TikTok where he breaks down websites and effects he finds interesting.Congrats to phoenisx for being awarded the Necromaner badge after answering the question: Property 'share' does not exist on type 'Navigator"?