

Financial Crime Matters
Kieran Beer (ACAMS)
In this podcast series, Kieran Beer (Chief Analyst at ACAMS) interviews the movers and shakers of the anti-financial crime world.
Listen for fast-paced conversations about the latest financial scandal to hit newsstands, and insights on trending Financial Crime topics.
Have something you’d like to hear covered? Email Kieran on podcasts@acams.org and tell us what matters to you. You can also follow Kieran on twitter www.twitter.com/kieranbeer
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Listen for fast-paced conversations about the latest financial scandal to hit newsstands, and insights on trending Financial Crime topics.
Have something you’d like to hear covered? Email Kieran on podcasts@acams.org and tell us what matters to you. You can also follow Kieran on twitter www.twitter.com/kieranbeer
Subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Episodes
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Jan 4, 2022 • 18min
Understanding the Rise of DeFi and ‘DeCrime,’ with Tom Robinson
Kieran talks with Dr. Tom Robinson, chief scientist and founder of Elliptic, a blockchain forensics company, about the phenomenal growth of decentralized finance, or DeFi. Offering the promise of a wide array of financial services on an inexpensive and inclusive basis, DeFi also presents a significant fraud and money laundering threat, Tom says. Drawing on Elliptic’s recently released report, “DeFi: Risk, Regulation and the Rise of DeCrime, which he co-wrote, Tom covers the need for legislation and greater regulatory oversight to stem fraud and money laundering as well as ways in which blockchain forensics are being used to track illicit funds on DeFi platforms.
“I think it is reasonable to describe this as the ‘Wild West’ in that there are fortunes to be made here and fortunes to be lost and that’s happening every day,” says Tom.

Dec 15, 2021 • 24min
Exposing the American Kleptocracy, with Casey Michel
Kieran talks with Casey Michel about his just published book, “American Kleptocracy,” which details how the United States has become a favored destination for laundering money for corrupt politicians and other criminals. Competition among states such as Delaware, Wyoming and Nevada for fees for forming corporations and trusts as well as carveouts from oversight won by special interest groups are to blame, Casey says.
Casey, an investigative journalist who has been published widely, including in Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, The Atlantic, Washington Post, and The Guardian, talks about how financial intermediaries, including real estate agents and lawyers, have profited from aiding criminals by creating instruments to obscure the ownership of illicit funds. And, while optimistic that new legislation and regulation will curtail some of those practices, Casey says other industries used to launder money lack transparency and oversight, including hedge funds and private investment companies.

Nov 1, 2021 • 18min
Facing a Humanitarian Crisis and Renewed Terror Threat in Afghanistan, with Alex Zerden
Kieran talks with Alex Zerden about his time as Treasury attaché at the United States Embassy in Kabul, the worsening humanitarian crisis in Afghanistan and the renewed terrorism threat related to the Taliban’s return to power.
Alex, the principal and founder of Capital Peak Strategies, a financial technology and digital asset advisory firm, talks about how the United States presence in Afghanistan was marked by corruption connected to an inflow of money the Afghan economy was incapable of absorbing. He adds that it was nonetheless “seeing the work and sacrifices made by my Afghan counterparts” that got him through his worst days.
“By my own research I have identified 17 terrorist organizations [now] operating in Afghanistan,” says Alex, in reflecting on the ongoing challenge the world faces to not reward the Taliban for “bad behavior” but to ease the humanitarian crisis now threatening Afghans.

Oct 15, 2021 • 26min
Fighting Financial Crime in Canada, with Jacqueline Shinfield
Kieran talks with Jacqueline Shinfield, partner at Blakes, Cassels & Graydon about the latest legislative and regulatory requirements from Finance Canada and FINTRAC that are part of the nation’s renewed vigor to fight financial crime.
Ahead of the ACAMS Annual Canada Conference on 3, 4 November, Jackie and Kieran discuss Canada’s new cost recovery plan’s impact on FINTRAC regulated entities, issues arising from ongoing regulatory examinations, technological gaps in implementing the new electronic fund transfer reporting requirements and lessons from the Cullen Commission.
“If anyone is interested in learning about money laundering, ways to launder money, trade-based money laundering, there are so many incredible papers, affidavits online that make compelling reading if you are an AML geek,” Jackie says of the work of the Cullen Commission, which is set to end oral submission this month and due to release a final report by 15 December.

Oct 4, 2021 • 23min
Understanding Terror Finance in the 21st Century, with Jessica Davis
Kieran talks with Jessica Davis, president of Insight Threat Intelligence and the author of the just released “Illicit Money: Financing Terrorism in the Twenty-First Century.” Jessica discusses her comprehensive book, which is based on her study of some 50 terrorist organizations and terror attacks, in the wake of the Taliban’s return to power in Afghanistan and the rise of ideologically motivated violent extremist throughout the world.
“Attacks are often self-funded” and difficult to track whereas funding efforts to maintain terrorist organizations is generally done on a larger scale and often leaves a trail, says Jessica, who has served more than 20 years in various defense and intelligence roles in Canada, including four-and-a-half years as a senior strategic analyst with the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS).
This episode is sponsored by NICE Actimize: https://www.niceactimize.com

Sep 15, 2021 • 23min
Following the Money Even When Its Cryptocurrency, with Gurvais Grigg
Kieran talks with Gurvais Grigg, Chainalysis’ Global Public Sector Chief Technology Officer, about tracking cryptocurrency used in fraud, ransomware and other crimes. Whether exchange traded digital currencies or so-called privacy coins, companies like Chainalysis, in tandem with law enforcement, are increasingly identifying cybercriminals and seizing their illicit funds, says Gurvais, who served more than 23 years with the FBI prior to joining the blockchain forensics company earlier this year.
“You see patterns and similarities. You may even see previously identified actors re-emerge,” Gurvais, who left the FBI as an assistant director and head of the crime lab, says of the fingerprints that cybercriminals leave.
This episode is sponsored by NICE Actimize’s Let’s Talk FinCrime: https://info.nice.com/lets-talk-fincrime.html

Aug 18, 2021 • 27min
Detecting and Preventing Cybercrime, with Elizabeth Roper
Kieran talks with Elizabeth “Liz” Roper, chief of the Cybercrime and Identity Theft Bureau within the New York County District Attorney’s office. As head of one of the most sophisticated anti-cybercrime labs in the world, Liz details what she sees as the most pressing emerging cybercrime threats and offers encouragement to prosecutors throughout the country who are challenged by spiraling incidents of cybercrime in their communities.
“From the day we first open a case, we’re working together with investigators, detectives, analysts and forensics experts to strategize,” says the 15-year veteran of the Manhattan district attorney’s office about the advantages of having cybercrime and other expertise under one roof. “That’s the key to our success.”
This Financial Crime Matters episode is sponsored by:
Refinitiv - http://www.refinitiv.com
Thomson Reuters - www.tr.com/risk-fraud

Jul 30, 2021 • 23min
Protecting the Elderly and Vulnerable from Financial Exploitation, with Liz Loewy
Kieran talks with former prosecutor Liz Loewy, who founded the elder abuse bureau in the New York District Attorney’s office in 1994 and is co-founder and current COO of EverSafe, a company that utilizes financial technology to protect elderly and vulnerable individuals from financial abuse.
“Loved ones have a responsibility to look out for one another,” Liz tells Kieran in describing how families should adopt a strategy to protect all their members from financial crime. With the rise in digital banking, Liz argues for a “fight fire with fire” strategy that relies on fintech to prevent and detect fraud and other criminal threats. Along the way, Liz also addresses what’s real and what’s not with regard to the abuse of older people in the Netflix movie “I Care a Lot”

Jun 17, 2021 • 19min
Shining Light on Right-Wing Extremism with Dr. Hans-Jakob Schindler
Kieran talks with Dr. Hans-Jakob Schindler, senior director of the Counter Extremism Project, about the rising threat from right-wing domestic terror groups.
Rooted in varying myths of nationalist identity, right-wing extremist groups are increasingly cooperating with one another across nation state borders, embracing long-discredited tropes that glorify white-supremacy and antisemitism, Hans tells Kieran during their discussion. While identifying some of the self-funding individual violent actors, he also describes some of the interlinked extremist groups that are raising funds with merchandise and festival ticket sales as well as criminal actions with an eye to enabling financial institutions to identify funds associated with these extremists.

May 3, 2021 • 23min
Ending “Snow Washing” and Fighting Financial Crime in Canada with James Cohen
Kieran talks with James Cohen, Executive Director at Transparency International Canada, about what’s wrong with Canada, including the rise in money laundering via “snow washing” and the corrupting influence of illicit foreign fund flows from transnational criminal groups.
During their talk, James discusses the battle to establish a corporate ownership registry in Canada, which received initial funding in the nation’s budget released shortly after the interview, the need for a coordinated federal response to money laundering, and his optimism that Canada is addressing financial crime.