
Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast
Each week on Smart Podcast, Trashy Books, Sarah Wendell interviews authors, readers, reviewers, bloggers, publishing professionals, editors, and librarians about romance novels, which are among the most popular genres in fiction worldwide. Popular guests include: Ilona Andrews, Robin Bradford, NPR's Barrie Hardymon, Chuck Tingle, Sarah J. Maas, and Rachel Aaron. Amanda Diehl, co-pilot of the SS Smart Bitches, makes regular appearances with maximum silliness, especially during our Romantic Times Rewind episodes, where we take a look at old issues of Romantic Times Magazine (1981-2018). Frequent topics include romance novels, the way the genre is changing, and the brilliant and interesting people who read, write, and produce it, and issues common among romance readers. Plus, we always recommend some books we're reading and really enjoying. Learn more at SB-TB.com/Podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

Dec 6, 2024 • 51min
644. Fanfic, Generosity, and Really Long Books: Holiday Wishes from Anne, Sandra, Miriam, Carrie A, and Lisa
My guests this week are, in the words of my home vernacular, yinz n’at.We’re traveling all over the country this week and we’re talking about fanfic, finding an unending treasure trove of books to read from a new favorite author, and taking time for restorative actions.There is still time to sign up if you’re a member of the Patreon community! Head over to Patreon and you’ll find the link.We have SO many VERY important links this week.Cat Sebastian’s AO3 BookmarksAO3 user youcouldmakealifeAO3 user thesesameoldstreetsThe GR listing for Star Shipped, Cat Sebastian’s next book“The One Where They’re Stars on HGTV”“Nature and Nurture”Lit Arts Rhode IslandLibrary Extension (Chrome)Thank you to our sponsor for this week's episode: Lume! Use code SARAH15 for 15% off your first purchase at LumeDeodorant.com.And don't miss Designs on You by Jaci Burton, out now! Music: purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 29, 2024 • 40min
643. Safety, D&D, and Smut Logic: Holiday Wishes from Dani, Katie, Sneezy and Lisa
It’s the first of our holiday episodes, and my guests are…all of you! Members of the podcast Patreon have signed up in record numbers to do interviews, so in the coming weeks, we’ll have recommendations, wishes, and bad jokes galore from folks all over the world.There is still time to sign up – head over to Patreon and you’ll find the link.This week, we’re headed to South Africa, Washington DC, Taiwan, and Connecticut to talk to Dani, Katie, Sneezy, and Lisa.We also mentioned the following:Theme to CyberSixA Foxy AffairGirls Who Don’t DnD (podcast)D&D Stamps from USPS! The Disabled Tyrant’s Beloved Pet Fish My interview with author Alison GoodmanMusic: purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 22, 2024 • 1h 4min
642. Books Journalism and Social Media with Sophie Vershbow
Sophie Vershbow is a freelance journalist who writes a lot about books, reading, and the publishing industry. You might have seen her article about celebrity book ghost writers and about DNFing without guilt.We talk about her experience with social media strategy for authors and publishers, and with writing about publishing. We also discuss how much book publicity has changed, so stay tuned for extremely good advice for managing social media for book publicity.Then, naturally, we turn to reality tv and shopping!We have SO MANY LINKS. Get ready!You can find Sophie Vershbow at her website, on Instagram – and don’t forget her dog, Simon!We also discussed:SBTB: When do you DNF a Book and Why, inspired by Sophie’s article belowSophie in The Atlantic: When Is It Okay to Not Finish a Book?Sophie in New York Magazine: Who’s Really Writing Celebrity Novels?Sophie in Esquire: The Murky Path To Becoming a New York Times Best SellerAll of Sophie’s bylines in EsquireSophie in Esquire: Behind the Scenes of Barack Obama’s Reading ListsSophie’s favorite piece that she’s written: The Cousin I Never KnewShopping links!Off FifthNordstrom RackSezaneGapEverlaneCosMarine LayerStaudReformationBeni – browser extension that searches second hand platforms for items on screenRakuten – cash back for shopping through their platform (Affiliate link gets you $30 bonus when you spend $30) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 15, 2024 • 41min
641. RT Rewind: November 2015 Ads & Features
It’s time for the Ads & Features from the November 2015 issue of Romantic Times magazine! Our cover story is…the 10th anniversary of Samhain publishing. We’ve got articles on series bibles and rugby romance – and a lot of ads when YA covers were all White Girls in Giant Dresses.Come back in time with us – we had a lot of fun chatting about this issue, even though it was a bit of a snooze.Don't miss the visual aids, especially the weird gun cover. We also mentioned:Vox.Com: There’s something off about this year’s “fall vibes”Jezebel.com: Forget Dinosaur erotica, it’s all Bigfoot erotica nowMusic: Purple-planet.comThank you to EveryPlate for sponsoring this episode! Get 50% off your first box at EveryPlate.com/PODCAST and use code trashybooks599 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 8, 2024 • 49min
640. Cozy Witchcraft with Lucy Jane Wood
Lucy Jane Wood’s debut book, Rewitched, is out, and we connected to talk all things cozy, witchcraft, all the different 90s witches in pop culture, and the big feelings around turning an age with a zero on the end. Ultimately, this is a book about a person who wants to keep her own power – a theme I could certainly celebrate!Lucy Jane is also a TikToker and YouTuber with a sizeable following, so we also talk about her best practices for social media as a creator and author.You can find Lucy Jane Wood online on Instagram, YouTube, and TikTok.We also mentioned:Saeed Jones on BlueSky: ” The first draft of a piece of creative writing is a radical act. It literally defies capitalism. You’re doing it for the LOVE. You’re risking possibility.The blank page isn’t the canvas. The canvas is the first draft. Get it all down, then get to work. Joyful rigor. LET’S GO!”Lucy Jane Wood on Tiktok: “Meg Ryan Core”Music: purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 1, 2024 • 1h 5min
639. RT Rewind: November 2015 Reviews
It’s time to take a look at the new books in November 2015 inside Romantic Times! We’ve got spanking and small towns, and a magazine that seems more targeted toward aspiring writers than readers. That yielded a mixed bag! But we have some books to talk about so let’s get to it!So many small town contemporaries, so many historicals, so many Four Star reviews with word salad. And some cat poo.TW/CW: very brief and nonspecific discussion of abusive relationships in the Erotica section.Please note: I don't have a visual aids post for this episode, but the Ads & Features certainly will! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 25, 2024 • 57min
638. Smart Bitches After Dark - Tara interviews Sarah & Amanda
Tara Scott, staff writer at SBTB and co-host of the Queerly Recommended podcast, is in the interviewer’s chair, asking Amanda and me questions about Smart Bitches After Dark, our new community support wing. We talk about what After Dark is, and also about the larger enshittification of different parts of the internet, and how we navigate that as a 20 year old blog.Yay blogs!I was really nervous about being interviewed, and I hope you enjoy this behind the scenes exploration of the site, the podcast, and the business of being in business.CW/TW: – I cry later! It’s good but if you’re driving and you’re a sympathy crier like I am, I wanted you to be aware.We also mentioned:“The The ‘Enshittification’ of TikTok. Or how, exactly, platforms die.” by Cory Doctorow (Wired) (Archive.org)Odd Girl Out by Ann Bannon (wikipedia)You can find out more and join Smart Bitches After Dark right here! And don’t miss out on Tara’s show, Queerly Recommended! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 18, 2024 • 1h 6min
637. RT Rewind October 1988 Ads & Features
It’s time for the Ads & Features of the October 1988 (!!) issue of Romantic Times Magazine.Y’all. We’ve got:Vintage gossip!Blind items that are very easy to guess!Danielle Steel’s two blue Mercedes!Fuchsia covers with giant flowers and startled animals!Riverboat gambler romance heroes!And a truly paltry obituary for an extraordinary author.It’s 1988. Fuchsia. So much fuchsia.Blanket content warning for romances written in the late 80s. Be ready for some very offensive tropes.Do not, and I mean this most sincerely, skip the visual aids. It’s 1988 y’all. The covers are glorious! LINKS. So many good links!“Double Trouble: One or Two Women?” by Gillian Whitlock about the alleged plagiarism of Lucy Maud Montgomery’s The Blue Castle by Australian author Colleen McCullough.Sam Lord’s Castle, BarbadosSharon Spiak Art listing for Wary HeartsEye Heart Romance’s review for Mistress of the Seas by Ruth LanganClothes in Books: “Mary Burchell aka Ida Cook” – the patterns from Mab’s Fashions!Mary Burchell’s Wikipedia pageA BluSky thread from John Bull on Mary BurchellThe Pudding magazine interactive article about romance covers by Jan Diehm and Sandra Chiu music: purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 11, 2024 • 46min
636. Swordcrossed Cozy Romantasy with Freya Marske
Freya Marske’s new book Swordcrossed is out this week, and she’s joining us from the other side of the planet to talk about what she calls, “Fantasy of manners, mercantile edition.” We also talk about writing fanfic and her new favorite show, Interview with the Vampire.Yes, I did mis-number last week’s episode – sorry about that.Music: purple-planet.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 4, 2024 • 48min
635. RT Rewind: October 1988 Reviews
It’s time to journey back to the October 1988 issue of Romantic Times!That’s right, we’re going all the way back to 1988, a time when one of us on the show wasn’t born yet. We’ve got absolutely appalling plots, some extremely luscious covers, and more – like Amanda’s engagement!Congrats Amanda and Brian!TW/CW: crappy family tales in the first 4 minutes, and overall, a number of references to enslavement, violence, colonialism, predatory behavior and assault in the reviews.Music: purple-planet.comDon’t miss the visual aids!We also mentioned:Jonathan Bailey at the Emmys (Town & Country)Belle Starr (Wikipedia)Water Witching: Fact or Fake? (Farmers Almanac)And you can see Amanda’s beautiful engagement ring on her Instagram! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.