
Smart Podcast, Trashy Books: A Romance Novel Podcast
Each week on Smart Podcast, Trashy Books, Sarah Wendell interviews authors, readers, reviewers, bloggers, publishing professionals, editors, and librarians about romance novels, which are among the most popular genres in fiction worldwide. Popular guests include: Ilona Andrews, Robin Bradford, NPR's Barrie Hardymon, Chuck Tingle, Sarah J. Maas, and Rachel Aaron. Amanda Diehl, co-pilot of the SS Smart Bitches, makes regular appearances with maximum silliness, especially during our Romantic Times Rewind episodes, where we take a look at old issues of Romantic Times Magazine (1981-2018). Frequent topics include romance novels, the way the genre is changing, and the brilliant and interesting people who read, write, and produce it, and issues common among romance readers. Plus, we always recommend some books we're reading and really enjoying. Learn more at SB-TB.com/Podcast. Join our Patreon for complete mayhem, shenanigans, and more! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jan 31, 2025 • 1h 5min
652. Smart Bitches Turns 20 with Candy Tan
My guest today is Candy Tan, who 20 years ago co-founded Smart Bitches Trashy Books with me. Yay!!We’re looking back at the founding of SBTB, about her reactions to Bridgerton, and her perennial favorite romances. We talk about different ways that romance has changed since 2005. Then I show Candy the casting photos for the Black Dagger Brotherhood adaptation.You can find Candy @BeautifulDuckweed on Bluesky, on AO3, and on Tumblr.We also mentioned:MrsGiggles.comLayla F SaadThe Reddit thread with all the images of the Black Dagger Brotherhood casting.Music: purple-planet.comCheck out the Fits Everybody Collection at https://www.skims.com/sarah #skimspartner Join our Patreon for complete mayhem, shenanigans, and more! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 24, 2025 • 51min
651. Little Free Libraries and Sports with Savannah Carlisle and Kristi Dosh
Savannah Carlisle is the author of The Library of Second Chances and is a sports business reporter and nonfiction author under the name Kristi Dosh.Her romance centers on a Little Free Library, so of course we are talking about that. We also discuss the difficult economies of small coastal towns, and the ways that memories can be attached to a place. Then we talk about sports romance – and why she doesn’t want to write one.CW/TW: At about 18 minutes in, we talk about online harassment Kristi faces and some of the comments fans make about her. If you want to skip that part, move ahead 2 minutes.You can find Savannah Carlisle at her website, SavannahCarlisle.com. She’s on Instagram and TikTok @SavvyCarlisle.You can find Kristi Dosh at her website, KristiDosh.com, and on socials @Sportsbizmiss.We also mentioned:The Montgomery BiscuitsThe Jersey DinersThe Rocket City Trash PandasThe Jacksonville Jumbo ShrimpMusic: purple-planet.com Join our Patreon for complete mayhem, shenanigans, and more! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Jan 17, 2025 • 58min
650. “I’m Going to Keep Daring” - Romance and History with Joanna Shupe
Joanna Shupe, an author known for her Gilded Age historical romances and dark mafia narratives, dives into the parallels between the Gilded Age and today’s social issues. She shares her thoughts on the political despair reflected in her writing, discussing readers' reactions to her views. Shupe also explores power dynamics in romance, links historical and modern wealth disparities, and emphasizes the necessity of diverse narratives in storytelling. Her insights highlight the ongoing relevance of history in contemporary societal challenges.

Jan 10, 2025 • 1h 3min
649. Kindness Everywhere: New Year’s Recs & Wishes from Claudia, Carisa, Verity, Colleen, and Elyse
One! More! Time! We’ve got one last set of interviews with all of you, and we’re going out with a banger of a book list. We’re talking about Y’all Fest, koalas, how terrifying David Tennant is, bonkbusters, Taylor Swift lyrics as book titles, and pop culture portal fantasies in romance.TW/CW: As part of my conversation with Carisa, who teaches history, we discuss some historical police violence and discussion of the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory, discussions of depictions of assault. This discussion is about 25 minutes in.We also mentioned:Y’allFest – Charleston, SCThe International Arthurian Society Reactor: “Every King Arthur Retelling Is Fanfic About Who Gets to Be Legendary“VE Schwab on InstagramAn interview with Dora Maisler about the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire, from CornellCornell’s archive of the Triangle Shirtwaist FireHenry’s Thoughts – he’s a cat and he ‘reads’ booksPopBitchRivals (TV)My Lady Jane (TV)The Rest is Entertainment (podcast)Addicted to Love (Movie)Dad’s Army (TV)Music: purple-planet.com Join our Patreon for complete mayhem, shenanigans, and more! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jan 3, 2025 • 45min
648. Welcome and Comfort : New Year’s Wishes from Sarah Jane, Lilisonna, Martin
We’re traveling around the world again, with Sarah Jane, Lilisonna, and Martin to gather recs, and wishes, and terrible jokes. We’ve got more joyful recommendations for AJ Sherwood’s books, more cozy games, more pop culture documentaries, and more cats visiting the show.We’ve got one more episode featuring listeners in various parts of the world. Record number of people signed up this year. Thank you!We also mentioned:A Little to the Left GamesPowerwash SimulatorStardew ValleyInsider-Gaming.com: “Stardew Valley is Officially the Best Game for Reducing Stress”Dark Side of the 90s (Hulu)Dark Side of the 00s (Hulu)This is Pop, Episode 1 (Netflix)Music: purple-planet.com Join our Patreon for complete mayhem, shenanigans, and more! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 27, 2024 • 51min
647. Finding Home: Recs and Wishes from Megan, Alanna, Sue and Rhonda
We’re traveling all over the world again, from the west coast of the US to Germany to discuss the price of PopTarts, book recommendations, and wishes for 2025 with Megan, Alanna, Sue, and Rhonda.Thank you for being part of these episodes!You can find all the books at SBTB! We also mentioned:Lost in Austen (tv show) Jae’s Sapphic Book Bingo I Heart SapphficGimme the Brain! Join our Patreon for complete mayhem, shenanigans, and more! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 20, 2024 • 1h 4min
646. Swashbuckling and Historical Romance Classics with Elizabeth Hoyt
My guest this week is Elizabeth Hoyt!! This episode was SO MUCH FUN to record and produce and I am so excited to share it with you.We talk about her latest book, No Ordinary Duchess, writer’s block, emotionally constipated heroes, and the special place for sunshiny heroines. Plus we talk about how genres have changed in popularity over the course of her career.Side trips include the magic of writing about people who slowly reveal themselves to one another, K dramas, and a tour through some Georgian social history.But the best part: she takes us through her favorite classic historical romances. I could not have been more delighted and I hope you enjoy it, too.CW/TWDiscussion of weight stigma and anti-fat bias – it’s about 1 minute long at 29:40Mention of trauma and death in a fictional work – about 15 seconds at 56:10You can find Elizabeth Hoyt at her website, ElizabethHoyt.com, and do NOT miss her Pinterest collection! Music:puple-planet.com Join our Patreon for complete mayhem, shenanigans, and more! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 13, 2024 • 47min
645. Support and Comfort: Holiday Wishes from Carrie, Jenna, Melissa, Lisa, Josephine, and Cara
We’re taking a tour around the US with stops in California, Ohio, Maryland, Texas, and Georgia with Carrie, Jenna, Melissa, Lisa, Josephine, and Cara!We’ve got holiday wishes and a bunch of recommendations. Thank you to everyone who signed up in record numbers to do a holiday recording with me. These are very fun!We also mentioned: Paint Love- Atlanta GAMusic: purple-planet.com Join our Patreon for complete mayhem, shenanigans, and more! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 6, 2024 • 51min
644. Fanfic, Generosity, and Really Long Books: Holiday Wishes from Anne, Sandra, Miriam, Carrie A, and Lisa
My guests this week are, in the words of my home vernacular, yinz n’at.We’re traveling all over the country this week and we’re talking about fanfic, finding an unending treasure trove of books to read from a new favorite author, and taking time for restorative actions.There is still time to sign up if you’re a member of the Patreon community! Head over to Patreon and you’ll find the link.We have SO many VERY important links this week.Cat Sebastian’s AO3 BookmarksAO3 user youcouldmakealifeAO3 user thesesameoldstreetsThe GR listing for Star Shipped, Cat Sebastian’s next book“The One Where They’re Stars on HGTV”“Nature and Nurture”Lit Arts Rhode IslandLibrary Extension (Chrome)Thank you to our sponsor for this week's episode: Lume! Use code SARAH15 for 15% off your first purchase at LumeDeodorant.com.And don't miss Designs on You by Jaci Burton, out now! Music: purple-planet.com Join our Patreon for complete mayhem, shenanigans, and more! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 29, 2024 • 40min
643. Safety, D&D, and Smut Logic: Holiday Wishes from Dani, Katie, Sneezy and Lisa
It’s the first of our holiday episodes, and my guests are…all of you! Members of the podcast Patreon have signed up in record numbers to do interviews, so in the coming weeks, we’ll have recommendations, wishes, and bad jokes galore from folks all over the world.There is still time to sign up – head over to Patreon and you’ll find the link.This week, we’re headed to South Africa, Washington DC, Taiwan, and Connecticut to talk to Dani, Katie, Sneezy, and Lisa.We also mentioned the following:Theme to CyberSixA Foxy AffairGirls Who Don’t DnD (podcast)D&D Stamps from USPS! The Disabled Tyrant’s Beloved Pet Fish My interview with author Alison GoodmanMusic: purple-planet.com Join our Patreon for complete mayhem, shenanigans, and more! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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