

CISO Tradecraft®
CISO Tradecraft®
Welcome to CISO Tradecraft®, your guide to mastering the art of being a top-tier Chief Information Security Officer (CISO). Our podcast empowers you to elevate your information security skills to an executive level. Join us on this journey through the domains of effective CISO leadership.
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Jan 8, 2024 • 23min
#163 - Operational Resilience
Join G Mark Hardy in this episode of the CISO Tradecraft podcast where he details how cyber protects revenue. He clarifies how cybersecurity is seen as a cost center by most organizations, but stresses how it can become a protector of business profits. Concepts like Operational Resilience Framework (ORF) Version 2 by the Global Resilience Federation are discussed in depth. Hardy also outlines seven steps from ORF to operational resilience including implementing industry-recognized frameworks, understanding the organization's role in the ecosystem, defining viable service levels, and more.
Link to the ORF - https://www.grf.org/orf
Transcripts - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ckYj-UKDa-wlOVbalWvXOdEO4OYgjO0i
Chapters
00:12 Introduction
01:47 Introduction to Operational Resilience Framework
02:38 Understanding Resilience and Antifragility
03:32 Common Cybersecurity Attacks and How to Anticipate Them 06:22 Building Resilience in Cybersecurity
09:43 Operational Resilience Framework: Steps and Principles
17:50 Preserving Datasets and Implementing Recovery Processes
20:18 Evaluating and Testing Your Disaster Recovery Plan
21:11 Recap of Operational Resilience Framework Steps
22:04 CISO Tradecraft Services and Closing Remarks

Jan 1, 2024 • 43min
#162 - CISO Predictions for 2024
Looking for accurate predictions on what 2024 holds for cybersecurity? Tune into our latest episode of CISO Tradecraft for intriguing insights and industry trends. Listen now and boost your cybersecurity knowledge!
Earn CPEs: https://www.cisotradecraft.com/isaca
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11YX2bjhIVThSNPF6yEKaNWECErxjWA-R
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:11 1) CISOs flock to buy private liability and D&O insurance. It also becomes the norm for CISO hiring agreements.
05:25 2) CISO reporting structure changes. No more reporting to the CIO.
11:43 3) More CISOs get implicated in lawsuits, but the lawsuits rule in favor of the CISO.
13:36 4) Harder to find cyber talent since universities are not graduating as many students. This plus inflation increases result in major spike in cyber salaries
16:59 5) Cyber industry minimizes external consulting costs to weather reduced revenues during recession
19:44 6) AI-generated fraud will increase significantly
22:15 7) Shadow AI will result in Hidden Vulnerabilities
24:24 8) LLM attacks new vector for "AI-enabled" companies
27:23 9) Cyber insurance exclusions will tend to normalize and will prescribe activities that must be done if payout to occur
31:44 10) Self-driving cars will encounter regulatory setback
34:02 Review of Last Year's Predictions
41:03 Actionable Items for the Future
41:29 Closing Remarks and Invitation for 2024

Dec 25, 2023 • 45min
#161 - Secure Developer Training Programs (with Scott Russo) Part 2
In the second half of the discussion about secure developer training programs, G Mark Hardy and Scott Russo delve deeper into how to engineer an effective cybersecurity course. They discuss the importance and impact of automation and shifting left, the customization needed for different programming languages and practices, and the role of gamification in engagement and learning. The conversation also touches upon anticipating secular trends, compliance with privacy and data protection regulations, different leaning styles and preferences, and effective strategies to enhance courses based on participant feedback. Scott highlights the lasting impacts and future implications of secure developer training, especially with the advent of generative AI in code generation.
ISACA Event (10 Jan 2024) With G Mark Hardy - https://www.cisotradecraft.com/isaca
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zr09gVpJuZMUMmF9Y-Kc0DOy-1gH0cx-
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:08 Importance of Ongoing Support and Mentorship
01:46 The Role of Community in Training
03:03 Hands-on Exercises and Practical Experience
06:01 Success Stories and Testimonials
08:29 Incorporating Security Trends into Training
11:08 Balancing Security with Developer Productivity
18:17 Teaching Secure Coding Practices in Different Languages
20:27 Engaging and Motivating Participants
22:51 Promoting the Program: Engaging and Fun
23:37 Accommodating Different Learning Styles
24:16 Catering to Self-Paced Learners
26:19 Addressing Proficiency Levels and Remediation
28:55 Compliance with Privacy and Data Protection Regulations
30:48 Breaking Down Complex Security Concepts
32:05 Creating a Culture of Security Awareness
33:25 Partnerships and Collaborations in Secure Development
35:10 Feedback and Improvement of the Program
36:12 Cost Considerations for Secure Developer Training
39:20 Tracking Participants' Progress and Completion Rates
41:23 Trends in Secure Developer Training
43:42 Final Thoughts on Secure Developer Training

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Dec 18, 2023 • 42min
#160 - Secure Developer Training Programs (with Scott Russo) Part 1
In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy invites Scott Russo, a cybersecurity and engineering expert for a deep dive into the creation and maintenance of secure developer training programs. Scott discusses the importance of hands-on engaging training and the intersection of cybersecurity with teaching and mentorship. Scott shares his experiences building a secure developer training program, emphasizing the importance of gamification, tiered training, showmanship, and real-world examples to foster engagement and efficient learning. Note this episode will continue in with a part two in the next episode
ISACA Event (10 Jan 2024) With G Mark Hardy - https://www.cisotradecraft.com/isaca
Scott Russo - https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-russo/
HBR Balanced Scorecard - https://hbr.org/1992/01/the-balanced-scorecard-measures-that-drive-performance-2
Transcripts - https://docs.google.com/document/d/124IqIzBnG3tPj64O2mZeO-IDTx9wIIxJ
Youtube - https://youtu.be/NkrtTncAuBA
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
03:00 Overview of Secure Developer Training Program
04:46 Motivation Behind Creating the Training Program
06:03 Objectives of the Secure Developer Training Program
07:45 Defining the Term 'Secure Developer'
14:49 Keeping the Training Program Current and Engaging
21:10 Real World Impact of the Training Program
21:46 Understanding the Cybersecurity Budget Argument
21:58 Incorporating Real World Examples into Training
22:26 Personal Experiences and Stories in Training
24:06 Industry Best Practices and Standards
24:18 Aligning with OWASP Top 10
25:53 Balancing OWASP Top 10 with Other Standards
26:12 The Importance of Good Stories in Training
26:32 Duration of the Training Program
28:37 Resources Required for the Training Program
32:23 Measuring the Effectiveness of the Training Program
36:07 Gamification and Certifications in Training
38:56 Tailoring Training to Different Levels of Experience
41:03 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Dec 11, 2023 • 23min
#159 - Refreshing Your Cybersecurity Strategy
In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G. Mark Hardy guides listeners on how to refresh their cybersecurity strategy. Starting with the essential assessments on the current state of your security, through to the creation of a comprehensive, one-page cyber plan. The discussion covers different approaches to upskilling the workforce, tools utilization, vulnerability management, relevant regulations, and selecting the best solution for your specific needs. The show also includes tips on building a roadmap, creating effective key performance indicators, and validation exercises or trap analysis to ensure the likelihood of success. At the end of the discussion, G. Mark Hardy invites listeners to reach out for any help needed for implementing these strategies.
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ISACA Event (10 Jan 2024) With G Mark Hardy https://www.cisotradecraft.com/isaca
CIO Wisdom Book - https://a.co/d/bmmZEAC
Transcripts - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_bHsRtaRdlRJ9e9XXVh3GU7k3MbBLcHs
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:21 Building a Tactical and Strategic Plan
02:58 Assessing Your Current Cybersecurity Posture
03:11 Workforce Assessment and Rating
06:31 Understanding Your Cybersecurity Tools
08:29 Performing a Business Requirements Analysis
10:13 Defining the Desired Future State
12:03 Creating a Gap Analysis
14:14 Analyzing Current Options and Building a Roadmap
17:11 Presenting the New Plan to Management
21:36 Recap and Conclusion

Dec 4, 2023 • 44min
#158 - Building a Data Security Lake (with Noam Brosh)
Discover the key to a more effective cybersecurity strategy in the newest episode of CISO Tradecraft! We're talking SOC tools, building a data lake for security, and more with guest Noam Brosh of Hunters. Don't miss it!
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Risk3Sixty - https://risk3sixty.com/
Hunters - https://www.hunters.security/
Noam Brosh - https://www.linkedin.com/in/noam-brosh-5743938/
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ArTixgEvRsVpLVdV2uVFAKCKSB2mBUKo
Youtube Link: https://youtu.be/ThEpI2_LpD8
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
01:20 Understanding the Role of SOC Tools
05:39 Challenges with Traditional SIEM Tools
08:48 The Shift to Data Lakes and the Impact on SIEMs
18:04 Understanding Different Cybersecurity Tools: SIEM, XDR, and SOC Platforms
19:25 The Role of Automation in Modern SOC Tools
26:01 The Importance of Third-Party Connection Tools in SOC Tools
27:27 Trends and Disruptions in the SIEM Space
28:09 Addressing False Positives in SOC Tools
31:14 Outsourcing Aspects of SOC and Staffing
36:28 Dealing with Multi-Cloud or Hybrid Cloud Environments
41:02 Reporting SOC Metrics to Executive Stakeholders

Nov 27, 2023 • 36min
#157 - SOC Skills (with Hasan Eksi) Part 2
In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, G Mark Hardy and Hasan Eksi from CyberNow Labs continue the discussion about the vital skills needed for an effective incident responder within a Security Operations Center (SOC). The skills highlighted in this episode include: incident triage, incident response frameworks, communication, collaboration, documentation, memory analysis, incident containment and eradication, scripting and automation, cloud security, and crisis management.
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Hasan Eksi's LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eksihasan/
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rWixzKgf_unanPlnoL6dt8qpEsbZj9lv
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Recap of the 10 Previous Skills
02:25 Skill #11) Incident Triage
04:21 Skill #12) Incident Response Frameworks
07:09 Skill #13) Communication
09:38 Skill #14) Collaboration
14:58 Skill #15) Documentation
19:35 Skill #16) Memory Analysis
22:36 Skill #17) Incident Containment and Eradication
25:31 Skill #18) Scripting and Automation
28:53 Skill #19) Cloud Security
31:10 Skill #20) Crisis Management
33:58 Recap of 20 SOC Skills and Conclusion

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Nov 20, 2023 • 43min
#156 - SMB CISO Challenges (with Kevin O’Connor)
G Mark Hardy talks to Kevin O'Connor, Director of Threat Research at Adlumin, about the importance of comprehensive cybersecurity for SMBs, the role of managed security services, the increasing threat of ransomware, and the critical importance of managing data vulnerabilities and providing security awareness training.

Nov 13, 2023 • 44min
#155 - SOC Skills (with Hasan Eksi) Part 1
In this episode of CISO Tradecraft we have a detailed conversation with Hasan Eksi from CyberNow Labs. G Mark and Hasan discuss the top 20 skills required by incident responders, covering the first 10 in part 1 of this series. The discussion ranges from understanding cybersecurity fundamentals to incident detection, threat intelligence, and malware analysis. This episode aims to enhance listeners' understanding of incident response, its significance, the skills required, and strategies for effective training.
Big Thanks to our Sponsor
Adlumin - https://adlumin.com/
Hasan Eksi's LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eksihasan/
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lE9Tz-um1II2aNX4JU-bQ-BND7fPNteE/
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
14:15 Skill 1) IT/Cyber Fundamentals
17:17 Skill 2) Incident Detection
18:34 Skill 3) Threat Intelligence
20:11 Skill 4) Cybersecurity Tools
24:12 Skill 5) Network Analysis
25:55 Skill 6) Endpoint Analysis
28:33 Skill 7) Log Analysis
32:41 Skill 8) Malware Analysis
35:20 Skill 9) Forensics
38:30 Skill 10) Vulnerability Assessment

Nov 6, 2023 • 42min
#154 - Data Protection (with Amer Deeba)
In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy welcomes special guest Amer Deeba, CEO and co-founder of Normalyze. They focus on the importance of data security in today's cloud-centric, multi-platform tech environment. Amer shares valuable insights on the need for a data security platform that offers a unified, holistic approach. The conversation also delves into the importance of understanding the value of your data, and how solutions such as Normalyze can accurately identify and classify sensitive data, measure its value, and mitigate risk of compromise. Ideal for CISOs and professionals navigating data security, this episode provides key recommendations for data visibility, security posture management, and response mechanisms, built around the principles of cybersecurity.
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Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_z20Y5Xvs7qv6K9D2TUvM3ufLYSmXbvs
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:46 Understanding Data Security
03:58 The Importance of Data Security
04:21 The Challenges of Data Security
08:26 The Role of Data Security Posture Management
10:31 The Value of Data and Compliance
13:58 The Importance of Real-Time Data Protection
15:31 The Role of Encryption in Data Security
17:19 Understanding the Risks of Data Breaches
18:45 The Importance of Holistic Data Security
36:26 The Role of Anomaly Checks in Data Security
37:48 Understanding Generational Data
40:38 Conclusion and Contact Information