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G Mark Hardy & Ross Young
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Dec 30, 2024 • 46min
#213 - How to Build a Successful Cybersecurity Startup (with Ross Haleliuk)
In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy interviews Ross Haleliuk, author of 'Cyber for Builders: The Essential Guide to Building a Cybersecurity Startup.' Ross shares valuable insights on starting a cybersecurity company, and emphasizes the importance of understanding market needs, customer engagement, and trust in the industry. They discuss the role of angel investors, the differences between product and service companies, and the challenges founders face. The episode also includes an announcement about CISO Tradecraft's partnership with CruiseCon for an upcoming cybersecurity conference. Additionally, Ross provides a glimpse into his non-traditional background and journey into the cybersecurity space.
Thank you to our sponsors
- ThreatLocker - https://hubs.ly/Q02_HRGK0
- CruiseCon - https://cruisecon.com/
Ross Haleliuk's Book - https://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Builders-Essential-Building-Cybersecurity/dp/173823410X/
Ross Haleliuk's LinkedIn Page - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosshaleliuk/
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b8UPolYvYWEYbmO7n_7NqrilObv-HNzo
Chapters
02:28 Ross Haleliuk's Background and Journey
04:32 Discussing the Book: Cyber for Builders
10:52 Insights on Cybersecurity and Business
15:54 Challenges and Realities of Cybersecurity Startups
22:19 Navigating Market Competition
23:15 Entering Established Markets
24:28 Challenges in Security Tool Adoption
25:11 Legacy Vendors and Market Entrenchment
27:35 Building a Company: Beyond the Product
30:02 Validating Market Needs
32:27 Funding Your Startup
35:25 The Role of Angel Investors
43:29 Conclusion and Next Steps

Dec 23, 2024 • 46min
#212 - Repeatable, Attestable, and Defensible AI (with AWS's Former Deputy CISO Merritt Baer)
Join us on CISO Tradecraft as we explore the future of cybersecurity with Merritt Barrett, former Deputy CISO at AWS. Merritt, a Harvard Law graduate, shares her expert insights on the trends expected in the upcoming years, emphasizing the enduring aspects of cybersecurity, the implications of AI, and challenges in cloud security. Discover valuable strategies for managing security risks, the evolution of ransomware, and the integration of sustainable practices within the industry. Don't miss this episode filled with practical advice for current and aspiring CISOs!
Thank you to our sponsors
- ThreatLocker - https://hubs.ly/Q02_HRGK0
- CruiseCon - https://cruisecon.com/
Transcripts https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KRkN7jVZvAaYk1eSBde3GTiD-G9RPjXJ
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Guest Overview
01:16 Future of Cybersecurity
02:18 AWS Security Insights
04:35 Shared Responsibility Model
09:59 AI in Cybersecurity
21:55 Security and Environmental Concerns
32:36 Predictions for 2025 and Beyond
42:46 Closing Remarks and Contact Information

Dec 16, 2024 • 28min
#211 - Allowlisting and Ringfencing (with Kieran Human)
In this episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy discusses the history and evolution of endpoint protection with guest Kieran Human from ThreatLocker. Starting from the inception of antivirus software by John McAfee in the late 1980s, the episode delves into the advancements through Endpoint Detection and Response (EDR) and introduces the latest in endpoint security: allowlisting and ring fencing. The conversation highlights the limitations of traditional antivirus and EDR solutions in today's threat landscape, emphasizing the necessity of default-deny approaches to enhance cybersecurity. Kieran explains how ThreatLocker’s allowlisting and ring-fencing capabilities can block unauthorized applications and actions, thus significantly reducing the risk of malware and ransomware attacks. Practical insights, war stories, and deployment strategies are shared to help cybersecurity leaders implement these next-generation tools effectively.
Thank you to our sponsor ThreatLocker
https://hubs.ly/Q02_HRGK0
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UMrK44ysBjltNkddCkwx9ly6GJ14tIbC
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Endpoint Protection
00:41 Upcoming Event: CruiseCon 2025
01:18 History of Endpoint Protection
03:34 Evolution of Antivirus to EDR
05:25 Next-Gen Endpoint Protection: Allowlisting
06:44 Guest Introduction: Kieran Human from ThreatLocker
08:06 Benefits of Allowlisting and Ring Fencing
17:14 Challenges and Best Practices
26:19 Conclusion and Call to Action

Dec 9, 2024 • 46min
#210 - Salt Typhoon and Vulnerable Telecoms
In this crucial episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy delves into the urgent topic of the 'Salt Typhoon' threat, with insights from experts Adam Isles and Andreas Kurland from the Chertoff Group. The episode covers the implications for corporate security using SMS text messages when Chinese actors are breaking into major telecommunication entities. The conversation focuses on encryption, secure communications, and measures to mitigate risks from vulnerabilities in telecommunications infrastructure. The discussion includes practical steps for securing messaging, voice calls, virtual meetings, and emails. Learn actionable strategies to bolster your organization’s cybersecurity posture and ensure robust defense against sophisticated state-level cyber threats.
Thank you to our sponsor Threat Locker
https://www.threatlocker.com/pages/essential-eight-fast-track?utm_source=ciso_tradecraft&utm_medium=sponsor&utm_campaign=essential-eight_q4_24&utm_content=essential-eight&utm_term=podcast
Link to recommendations:
https://chertoffgroup.com/end-to-end-encryption-is-essential/
Transcripts https://docs.google.com/document/d/13NKPUBU3c-qYQtX18NR08oYVRSSnHD_a
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Salt Typhoon
01:31 Meet the Experts: Adam Isles and Andreas Kurland
02:03 Understanding the Salt Typhoon Threat
04:49 Telecommunications and Security Risks
07:37 Messaging Security: Risks and Recommendations
20:14 Voice Communication Security
28:44 Securing Virtual Meetings
34:45 Email Security: Challenges and Solutions
41:35 Conclusion and Contact Information

Dec 2, 2024 • 49min
#209 - AI Singularity (with Richard Thieme)
In this riveting episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy welcomes back Richard Thieme, a thought leader in cybersecurity and technology, almost three years after his last appearance. Richard delves into the necessity of thinking like a hacker, provides insights into the AI singularity, and discusses the ethical and societal implications of emerging technologies. The conversation also touches on Richard's extensive body of work, including his books and views on cyber warfare, disinformation, and ethical decision-making. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that challenges conventional wisdom and explores the interconnectedness of technology, consciousness, and our future.
Big Thanks to our Sponsor CruiseCon - https://cruisecon.com/
CruiseCon Discount Code: CISOTRADECRAFT10
Link to Richard’s home page (and links to Amazon for his books):
https://thiemeworks.com/
Link to the book, The Ending of Time:
https://store.kfa.org/products/the-ending-of-time-new-edition
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q7CJkF7Spji2iAbV_mYEyYHnKWobzo6N
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Guest Announcement
00:56 Upcoming Cybersecurity Event: CruiseCon
01:41 Welcoming Back Richard Thieme
02:06 Reflecting on Past Discussions
02:59 The Necessity for Thinking Like a Hacker
03:10 Exploring Richard Thieme's Books
08:25 Understanding AI and Its Implications
18:28 Soft Power and Global Influence
24:01 The Power of Fiction in Revealing Truth
24:37 Ethical Frameworks Post 9/11
26:12 The Role of Empathy in Intelligence Work
26:37 The Blurring Line Between Fact and Fiction
29:52 The Isolation of Intelligence Work
31:18 The Interconnectedness of Everything
33:36 Exploring Remote Viewing and Consciousness
36:50 The Rise of AI and Ethical Considerations
39:43 The Evolution of Technology and Society
45:07 Final Thoughts and Reflections

Nov 25, 2024 • 45min
#208 - Insider Threat (with Shawnee Delaney)
This podcast episode of CISO Tradecraft features Shawnee Delaney, an insider threat expert, discussing insider threats in cybersecurity. Delaney, whose background includes espionage, explains how understanding human motivation and vulnerabilities is crucial for identifying and mitigating insider threats. The conversation highlights the importance of organizational culture, employee well-being, and proactive measures like employee lifecycle management and psychological testing in preventing such threats. Practical advice is offered for leaders to foster a supportive and communicative work environment to detect potential threats early. Finally, methods for creating effective insider threat programs and addressing cultural issues are explored.
Shawnee Delaney's LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawnee-delaney/
Vaillance Group - https://www.vaillancegroup.com/
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xJiEMDL8CjNwwfBSvNHfnhfsrVgOMuk0
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Insider Threat
00:26 Guest Introduction: Shawnee Delaney
00:58 CruiseCon 2025 Announcement
01:33 Shawnee's Career Journey
02:18 Understanding Espionage
03:43 Motivations Behind Espionage
07:46 Indicators of Insider Threat
10:48 Building a Positive Organizational Culture
18:21 Implementing an Insider Threat Program
21:05 Psychological Testing in Hiring
23:26 Assessing Organizational Culture
25:34 Core Values in the Navy and Marine Corps
26:16 A Commanding Officer's Story
28:32 Identifying Insider Threats
32:01 The Impact of Job Uncertainty
36:50 Gamifying Security Incentives
39:12 Building a Strong Security Culture
42:05 Final Thoughts and Recommendations

Nov 18, 2024 • 46min
#207 - CISO Burnout (with Raghav Singh)
Welcome to another enlightening episode of CISO Tradecraft! In this episode, host G. Mark Hardy dives deep into the critical topic of CISO burnout with special guest Raghav Singh, a PhD candidate from the University of Buffalo. This is an eye-opening session for anyone in the cybersecurity field, especially those in or aspiring to the CISO role. Raghav shares valuable insights from his extensive research on the unique stresses faced by CISOs, the organizational factors contributing to burnout, and practical coping mechanisms. We also explore the evolutionary phases of CISOs, from technical experts to strategic business enablers. Whether you're dealing with resource limitations, seeking executive support, or managing ever-evolving cybersecurity threats, this episode offers actionable advice to navigate the demanding role of a CISO successfully. Don't forget to like, comment, and share to help other CISOs and cybersecurity leaders!
Big Thanks to our Sponsor CruiseCon - https://cruisecon.com/
CruiseCon Discount Code: CISOTRADECRAFT10
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fhLkaj_JetlYFQ50Q69uMGmsw3fS3Wqa
CISO Burnout - https://aisel.aisnet.org/amcis2023/sig_lead/sig_lead/4/
CISO-CIO Power Dynamics https://aisel.aisnet.org/amcis2024/is_leader/is_leader/6/
Cybersec professionals and AI integration https://aisel.aisnet.org/amcis2024/security/security/29/
Raghav can be reached on rsingh45@buffalo.edu
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
02:34 Understanding CISO Burnout
03:24 PhD Journey and Challenges
10:12 Key Findings on CISO Burnout
18:39 Six Sources of CISO Burnout
32:47 CISO Maturity Levels
42:57 Conclusion and Call to Action

Nov 11, 2024 • 46min
#206 - Ira Winkler CruiseCon Founder
Setting Sail with Cybersecurity: Exclusive Insights from Ira Winkler on CruiseCon 2025 🛳️ Join us for an exciting episode of CISO Tradecraft as G Mark Hardy sits down with renowned cybersecurity expert Ira Winkler! Discover the groundbreaking CruiseCon 2025, the first at-sea cybersecurity conference, featuring top-tier speakers and unrivaled networking opportunities. Learn about Ira's illustrious career, the significance of certifications, and the current state of the cybersecurity job market. Don't miss out on this chance to enhance your career and connect with industry luminaries.
Big Thanks to our Sponsor CruiseCon - https://cruisecon.com/
CruiseCon Discount Code: CISOTRADECRAFT10
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CGyFBxOrxvJitKsH9BRKwf2_g8rRPZ6K
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Special Announcement
00:42 Reconnecting with Ira Winkler
04:07 Early Cybersecurity Days and Certifications
14:35 Innovative Ideas and CruiseCon
21:32 Meet the Top Cybersecurity Experts
22:13 Exciting Events and Networking Opportunities
24:10 Special Deals and Sponsorships
34:47 Addressing the Cybersecurity Job Market

Nov 4, 2024 • 46min
#205 - Wisdom from the 1st Cyber Colonel (JC Vega)
Join G. Mark Hardy on this exciting episode of CISO Tradecraft as he interviews J.C. Vega, the first cyber colonel in the United States Army. Vega shares his invaluable insights on leadership, team building, and success strategies that can transform your cybersecurity career. Plus, learn about CruiseCon 2025, Wee Dram, and how you can take your leadership skills to the next level. Don't miss out on this episode packed with wisdom, actionable advice, and some fun anecdotes. Subscribe, comment, and share with your peers!
Big Thanks to our Sponsor CruiseCon - https://cruisecon.com/
CruiseCon Discount Code: CISOTRADECRAFT10
JC Vega - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcvega-cyber-colonel/
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ExuX-WVO4_qqLoIZDuT0QS2VAvN2resW
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Special Guest Announcement
01:15 Meet J.C. Vega: The First Cyber Colonel
01:55 The Wee Dram Community
03:39 Building a Trusted Cybersecurity Community
09:12 Leadership Principles from Military to Civilian Life
12:31 Building and Leading Effective Teams
24:17 The Peter Principle and Career Progression
24:49 Creating a Shared Understanding in Cybersecurity
26:43 Commander's Intent: Defining Success
29:29 Empowering Teams and Accepting Prudent Risk
36:19 Rules to Live By: The Vega's Top Three
44:58 Final Thoughts and Farewell

Oct 28, 2024 • 24min
#204 - Shadows and Zombies in the Data Center
In this special Halloween episode of CISO Tradecraft, host G Mark Hardy delves into the lurking dangers of Shadow IT and Zombie IT within organizations. Learn about the origins, risks, and impacts of these hidden threats, and discover proactive measures that CISOs can implement to safeguard their IT ecosystems. Strategies discussed include rigorous asset management, automation, and comprehensive compliance reviews. Tune in for insights to foster a secure, compliant, and efficient IT environment, and don't miss out on an exclusive opportunity to join a cybersecurity conference aboard a luxury cruise.
Big Thanks to our Sponsor
CruiseCon - https://cruisecon.com/
CruiseCon Discount Code: CISOTRADECRAFT10
Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lh-TQhaSOIA2rITaXgTaqugl7FRGevnn
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Shadow IT and Zombie IT
02:14 Defining Shadow IT
04:58 Risks of Shadow IT
07:29 Introduction to Zombie IT
09:35 Risks of Zombie IT
11:25 Shadows vs Zombies
11:25 Comparing Shadow IT and Zombie IT
19:11 Lifecycle Management Strategies
19:56 Summarizing the Threats and Solutions
22:32 Final Thoughts and Call to Action


