

CISO Tradecraft®
CISO Tradecraft®
Welcome to CISO Tradecraft®, your guide to mastering the art of being a top-tier Chief Information Security Officer (CISO). Our podcast empowers you to elevate your information security skills to an executive level. Join us on this journey through the domains of effective CISO leadership.
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Apr 3, 2023 • 37min
#123 - Accepted Cyber Strategy (with Branden Newman)
In this episode of "CISO Tradecraft," G Mark Hardy discusses how to build an effective cyber strategy that executives will appreciate. He breaks down the four questions (Who, What, Why, and How) that need to be answered to create a successful strategy and emphasizes the importance of understanding how the company makes money and what critical business processes and IT systems support the mission. Later in the episode, Branden Newman shares his career path to becoming a CISO and his approach to building an effective cyber strategy. Newman stresses the importance of communication skills and the ability to influence people as the most critical skills for a CISO. He also shares his advice on how to effectively influence executives as a CISO.
Full Transcripts - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nFxpOxVl6spkK-Y8GLU5q2f6R_4VD-a2
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:06 The Four Questions (Who, What, Why, and How)
08:11 Building an accepted cyber strategy
09:19 Importance of communication skills for a CISO
10:19 Understanding financial statements
12:47 Following the money
14:09 Reputation and cybersecurity
15:24 Getting executive buy-in into cybersecurity
15:57 Building Trust with Executives
16:45 Security Enables New Elements of Business
17:13 Why Cybersecurity Gets Ignored
20:07 Framing Cybersecurity as a Competitive Advantage
21:19 Mistakes CISOs Make When Communicating with Executives
22:54 Telling Stories to Communicate with Executives
24:09 Using Business Cases and Examples
27:28 The Importance of Listening to the Executives
29:31 Making Informed Risk-Based Decisions
30:54 Building Trust and Champions
32:55 Building a Network of Trust
35:13 Being Pragmatic

Mar 27, 2023 • 44min
#122 - Methodologies for Analysis (with Christopher Crowley)
Sometimes you just need structure to the madness. Christopher Crowley stops by to talk about methodologies that can help security organizations. Come and see why you need them, how we get the scientific method wrong in cyber, and how to leverage a CIA analytical methodology that can help you. There's a lot more to check out so tune in.
Analysis of Competing Hypothesis https://www.cia.gov/static/9a5f1162fd0932c29bfed1c030edf4ae/Pyschology-of-Intelligence-Analysis.pdf
Christopher Crowley's Company https://montance.com/
Full Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P4MI02fIw3y_u8RhLVDbB3iu0o7e27Fr
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:30 The Morris Worm and the Internet
04:17 The Future of Cybersecurity
06:41 How to setup a shared drive for multitasking
10:26 The Evolution of Career Paths
12:02 The Importance of Methodology in Problem Solving
14:16 The Importance of Hypothesis in Cybersecurity
19:58 MITRE ATT&CK® Framework: A Two Dimensional Array
21:54 The Importance of a Foregone Conclusion Methodology
23:29 The Disruptor's Role in Hypothesis Brainstorming
25:18 The Importance of Resilience in Leadership
27:45 Methodologies and Threat Hunting
29:21 The Importance of Information Bias in Threat Hunting
34:31 How to Sort Hypothesis in a Spreadsheet
37:22 The Importance of Refining the Matrix
40:34 How to Automate Analysis of Competing Hypothesis

Mar 20, 2023 • 38min
#121 - Legal Questions (with Evan Wolff)
Have you ever wanted to get a legal perspective on cybersecurity? On this episode of CISO Tradecraft, Evan Wolff stops by to discuss terms such as legal disclaimers, negligence, due care, and others. He also provides important insights on how to structure your cyber policies, respond to regulators/auditors, and partner with general council. Please enjoy.
Full Transcripts:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hbqB5GQfQsi0egPVdOtdfYEwLA3-1Jnh
Chapters
00:00 Introductions
01:52 The Attorney Client Privilege
04:49 What's the Difference Between a Discovery Order and an Attorney Client Privilege
06:30 CISO Disclaimer
09:23 Security Is a Component of Government Contracts
11:59 What are the Borders Between Information Security and Legal Risk
15:31 Cyber Security - Is there a Standard of Care?
18:11 Do you have a Reasonable Best Effort?
21:27 CMMC 2.0
26:22 Is your Privacy Policy going to expire?
28:30 What is Reasonable Assurance?
33:41 Advice for Partnering with the General Counsel

Mar 13, 2023 • 40min
#120 - Negotiating Your Best CISO Package (with Michael Piacente)
Have you ever wondered how to negotiate your best CISO compensation package? On this episode, we invite Michael Piacente from Hitch Partners to discuss important parts of the compensation packages. Examples include but are not limited to: - Base Salary,
Bonuses (Annual, Relocation, & Hiring)
Reserve Stock Units
Annual Leave
Title (VP or SVP)
Directors & Officers Insurance
Accelerated Vesting Clauses
Severance Agreements
You can learn more about CISO compensations by Googling any of the following compensation surveys
Hitch Partners CISO Compensation and Organizational Structure Survey Report: https://www.hitchpartners.com/ciso-security-leadership-survey-results-23
Heidrick & Struggles Global Chief Information Officer Survey: https://www.heidrick.com/en/insights/...
IANS CISO Compensation and Budget Benchmark Study: https://www.iansresearch.com/ciso-com...
Full Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e...
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:58 What's the Difference?
06:50 The Three-Legged Stool (Base Salary, Bonuses, & RSUs)
11:44 Is there a signing bonus?
13:56 What's the difference between RSUs & Options?
18:52 Private Companies - What's the Value of the Offer?
22:04 Double Triggers in Private Companies
26:38 Should you counter an offer?
28:17 Corporate Liability Insurance
29:50 Do you want to be extended on the Director and Officer Insurance Policy?
32:56 How to negotiate a severance agreement
36:00 Compensation Survey Reports

Mar 6, 2023 • 41min
#119 - Ethics (with Stephen Northcutt)
One of the most difficult things to do as a manager or leader is to take an ethical stance on something you believe in. Sometimes ethical stances are clear and you know you are doing what’s right. Others are blurry, messy, and really weigh on your mind. So we thought we would take this episode to talk about various ethical models, tricky ethical scenarios you might encounter as a CISO, and finally we will look at the Federal Case where Joe Sullivan the Former Chief Security Officer of Uber was convicted of federal charges for covering up a data breach. Thanks to Stephen Northcutt for coming on today's show.
Full Transcript https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vin7gMBt9YvVGaVqT91ycPmacsKZe2T9
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
01:49 How to Make a Difference in Cybersecurity
03:34 Hackers and the Pursuit of Higher Principles
06:06 Is There a Use Case in Cybersecurity
10:56 Human Capital is the Most Important Asset That Any Organization Has
14:00 The Human Frailty Factor
18:21 Has Your Company Fully Embraced Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
20:24 Do you have a Diversity of Experience
24:11 Getting Your EXO to Talk to Power and say you are wrong
27:40 CISOs and CISOs - Is this a Criminal Thing?
30:15 The Penalty of Crossing the Law
34:56 Pay the Ransom?
36:59 The Key to Resilience as a CISO

Feb 27, 2023 • 45min
#118 - Data Engineering (with Gal Shpantzer)
Our systems generate fantastic amounts of information, but do we have a complete understanding of how we collect, analyze, manage, store, and retrieve possibly petabytes a day? Gal Shpantzer has been doing InfoSec for over 20 years and has managed some huge data engineering projects, and offers a lot of actionable insights in this CISO Tradecraft episode.
Gal's LinkedIn Page - https://www.linkedin.com/in/riskmanagement/
Gal's Twitter Page - https://twitter.com/Shpantzer
Full Transcript - https://docs.google.com/document/d/14RXnsVttvKlRi6VL94BTrItCjOAjgGem/
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:00 How do you Architect Big Data Data Infrastructure
03:33 Are you taking a look at Ransomware?
06:11 Web Scale Technologies are used mostly in Marketing & Fraud Detection
08:11 Data Engineering - The Mindset Shift
10:51 The Iron Triangle of Data Engineering
13:55 Can I Outsource My Logging Pipeline to a Vendor
15:37 Kafka & Flink - Data Engineering in the Pipeline
18:12 Streaming Analytics & Kafka
22:08 How to Enable Data Science Analytics with Streaming Analytics
26:33 Streaming Analytics
30:25 Data Engineering - Is there a Security Log
32:30 Streaming Analytics is a Weird Thing
35:50 How to Get a Handle on a Big Data Pipeline
39:11 Data Engineering Hacks for Big Data Analytics

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Feb 20, 2023 • 40min
#117 - Good Governance (with Sameer Sait)
Has bad governance given you trauma, boring committees, and long speeches on irrelevant issues? Today we are going to overcome that by talking about what good governance looks like. We bring on the former CISO of Amazon Whole Foods (Sameer Sait) to discuss his lessons learned as a CISO. We also highlight key topics of good governance found in the Cyber Security Profile from the Cyber Risk Institute.
Cyber Risk Institute - Cyber Security Profile https://cyberriskinstitute.org/the-profile/
Full Transcripts: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vBM6A0utvhRFMA04wzrZvR8ktNwYo-li
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
03:10 Good Governances is a Good Thing, Right?
05:08 Cyber Strategy & Framework
06:43 Is NIST the Same as ISO?
08:40 How to Convince the Executive Leadership Team to Buy In
11:19 The CEO's Challenge is Taking Measured Risk
20:05 Is there a Cybersecurity Policy
22:32 Culture eats Policy for Lunch
24:14 The Role of the CISO
27:52 How do you Convince the Leadership Team that you need extra resources
29:51 How do you Measure Cybersecurity?
32:22 How do we communicate Risk Findings to Senior Management
36:07 Are you Aligning with the Audit Committee

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Feb 13, 2023 • 44min
#116 - A European view of CISO responsibilities (with Michael Krausz)
In the US we often focus on SOC-2, NIST Special Pubs, and the Cybersecurity Framework. In Europe (and most of the rest of the world), ISO 27001 is the primary standard. ISO concerns itself with policy, practice, and proof, whereas NIST often shows the method to follow. Michael points out that a CISO is responsible for governance, (internal) consulting, and audit. In early stages of growing a security function, a CISO needs to be technically-focused, but as a security department matures, the CISO must be organizationally-focused. Also, to effectively grow your team, first determine what actions need to take place, how much effort it requires, and how often it needs to take place. Then, build an action sheet and collect data for three months. Finally, take that to your executives and document your requirements for more staff.
Michael Krausz LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-krausz-b55862/
Michael Krausz Website: https://i-s-c.co.at/
Full Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/13fghym7IWyPvuRANQXUvmv-ulkSj93xv
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
04:01 Is there a Gap Analysis in ISO 27001?
08:05 Is there a Requirement for ISO Standards?
10:57 What is ISO 27001?
13:11 Is there a Parallel Development between the US and EU?
16:57 Do you want to be a trooper?
21:17 What's the Oldest Operating System?
23:09 Is there a Legacy Operating Systems that you can't get away with?
24:11 The Most Important Class for a CISO
26:33 The Secrets of a Successful CISO
29:30 CISO - I need 6 people period
33:40 What's the Primary Skill Needed in a CISO?
37:41 How to Maximize the Number of FTEs

Feb 6, 2023 • 42min
#115 - The Business Case for a Global Lead of Field Cybersecurity (with Joye Purser)
How can cyber best help the sales organization? It's a great thought exercise that we bring on Joye Purser to discuss. Learn from her experience as we go over how cybersecurity is becoming an even closer business partner with the creation of a new important role.
Full Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Shd1Qldb8iKEHBgXJqFez81Iwfpl6JT-/
Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:58 How did you marry those two cultures?
06:40 Building a Diverse Workforce
08:23 Is this a new role based on Pain Points?
10:27 Global Lead for Field Cyber Security
15:51 Is the Global Lead for Field Cybersecurity linked to sales numbers?
19:07 Is there a Global Lead for Field Cybersecurity?
24:46 Building Relationships in a Security Leadership Role
27:48 Do you have any lessons learned from your success at Global Management Consulting?
29:33 You need to schedule time to get things done
33:33 What about Due Diligence?
37:36 The Chief Technology Officer, CRO, & CTO

Jan 30, 2023 • 24min
#114 - One Vendor to Secure Them All
Did you ever wonder how much security you can implement with a single vendor? We did and were surprised by how much you can do using the Australian Top Eight as a template. We'll bet you can improve your security by using these tips, tools, and techniques that you might not have even known were there.
Special thanks to our sponsor Praetorian for supporting this episode.
https://www.praetorian.com/
Full Transcripts:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12HsuOhY9an1QzIw9wOREPMX0pXe5hqkJ
Helpful Links
Essential 8 https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/business/topic/security/essential-eight
Blocking Macros https://ite8.com.au/the-essential-8/office-macros-explained/
Windows Defender Application Control or WDAC (available from Windows 10 or Server 2016 or newer) previously Windows had App Locker (Windows 7 / 8)
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/configmgr/protect/deploy-use/use-device-guard-with-configuration-manager
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/threat-protection/windows-defender-application-control/windows-defender-application-control
Windows Group Policies
https://techexpert.tips/windows/gpo-block-website-url-google-chrome/
https://chromeenterprise.google/policies/#SafeBrowsingAllowlistDomains
https://data.iana.org/TLD/tlds-alpha-by-domain.txt
Software Restriction Policies http://woshub.com/how-to-block-viruses-and-ransomware-using-software-restriction-policies/
Blocking websites URL - only allow (.com, .org, .net, edu, .gov, .mil, and the countries you want).
Locking down Active Directory https://attack.stealthbits.com/tag/active-directory
File Service Resource Management
http://woshub.com/using-fsrm-on-windows-file-server-to-prevent-ransomware/
Enable MFA for RDP
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory-domain-services/secure-remote-vm-access
https://duo.com/docs/rdp
Enable MFA for SSH
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/fundamentals/auth-ssh
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/devices/howto-vm-sign-in-azure-ad-linux
Windows Controlled Folder Access
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/ransomware-protection-in-windows-security-445039d6-537a-488a-ad53-48906f346363
Use Windows File History to create backups to one drive.
https://www.ubackup.com/windows-10/file-history-backup-to-onedrive-4348.html
Storing your files to One Drive which has ransomware detection
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/ransomware-detection-and-recovering-your-files-0d90ec50-6bfd-40f4-acc7-b8c12c73637f
Windows Update
Select Start > Settings > Windows Update > Advanced options. Under Active hours, choose to update manually or automatically in Windows 11.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/keep-your-pc-up-to-date-de79813c-7919-5fed-080f-0871c7bd9bde
Microsoft Conditional Policies- https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/conditional-access/concept-conditional-access-policy-common
Microsoft Authenticator with Number Matching, Geo, & Additional Context
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/authentication/how-to-mfa-additional-context
https://websetnet.net/microsoft-rolls-out-new-microsoft-authenticator-features-for-enterprise-users/
Application Approve List- https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/create-an-application-whitelist-policy-in-windows/