

THE SPACESHIP EARTH PODCAST
Dan Burgess
We live on a life giving rock called Earth hurtling through space.
Like a spaceship, we have a finite amount of supplies with an intelligent operating system, called nature, which keeps everything replenished as long as we all respect and participate wisely.
In this podcast I’m in conversations with humans involved in regenerating life,
Shifting consciousness and re-imagining how we can live more beautifully and peacefully.
I talk with artists, writers, activists, designers, adventurers, healers, farmers, creative mavericks and more.
Their stories invite us to participate in the co-creation of life sustaining cultures.
In service to life.
Becoming crew on Spaceship Earth.
becomingcrew.substack.com
Like a spaceship, we have a finite amount of supplies with an intelligent operating system, called nature, which keeps everything replenished as long as we all respect and participate wisely.
In this podcast I’m in conversations with humans involved in regenerating life,
Shifting consciousness and re-imagining how we can live more beautifully and peacefully.
I talk with artists, writers, activists, designers, adventurers, healers, farmers, creative mavericks and more.
Their stories invite us to participate in the co-creation of life sustaining cultures.
In service to life.
Becoming crew on Spaceship Earth.
becomingcrew.substack.com
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Mar 29, 2022 • 1h 41min
Episode 58 - Felipe Viveros - Survival of the Beautiful
Felipe Viveros is a British-Chilean writer, independent researcher, artist and strategist. His work focuses on the intersection of on-line organizing, digital storytelling, policy and systems change.He has worked with governments and organisations globally, served as the chair of The Rules, and acted as the European representative of the GNH Centre Bhutan. Felipe is a fellow of Bertha Foundation, a member of the UN Harmony with Nature initiative and a commissioner for the Sacred Headwaters Initiative, always championing epistemic justice, social justice and indigenous people’s rights.For full show notes and links please visit The Spaceship Earth website: https://www.thespaceship.earth/podcast/2022/3/29/episode-58-felipe-viveros-survival-of-the-beautifulPlay out track:Nick MulveyIn the Anthropocene ( Elder Brother Remix) Get full access to Becoming Crew at becomingcrew.substack.com/subscribe

Mar 22, 2022 • 1min
Teaser - Episode 58 - Felipe Viveros - Survival of the Beautiful
Coming next - in conversation with Felipe Viveros - artist, researcher, strategist and activist@nawelcura#ChooseEarthhttps://www.chooseearth.co/ Get full access to Becoming Crew at becomingcrew.substack.com/subscribe

Mar 4, 2022 • 12min
BONUS Episode 57 - The Impossible Train - Moral Imaginations
Welcome to this Bonus episode 57 with our guest Phoebe TickellIn this we offer you an invitation to listen to a 5 minute story called the Impossible Train, created by Moral Imaginations and narrated by Phoebe Tickell.The Impossible Train Story is a tool that can be used by anyone, alone or in groups in all settings to catalyse a process of deep reimagining of the future post-COVID and all that it has revealed.The entire process can be done in under 20 minutes.
The story you are about to hear will build up a sensory experience of a portal into a metaphoric world not far away from this one — where a group of human beings have to make a decision on what to do next with their future after experiencing a Great Pause in their everyday world
.Take 5 minutes to listen to The Impossible Train Story, and be ready with a pen or an open document to start writing immediately after the story ends. You could set a stopwatch for 7 minutes and start to write freely when the narration is over.
When you’re finished, you could find a friend to chat what you discovered and wrote, or if you do it with someone else, use the remaining time you have to read each other your reflections.
Remember, there is no right or wrong answer, and each time you listen to the story you will have a different response emerge from you, depending on what is going on for you on that day and specific moment.
You do not need to show anyone what you wrote, in fact, some people have been using it as a prompt to use solo when journalling. It can be used as a reflective tool and a way to access deeper imagination and ask big questions that these times are calling for.But if you wanted to share it with us you can do so.Peace and Outhttps://www.moralimaginations.com/ Get full access to Becoming Crew at becomingcrew.substack.com/subscribe

Mar 3, 2022 • 2h 18min
Episode 57 - Phoebe Tickell - Imagination Activist
Phoebe Tickell is a Biologist and Systems thinker who develops methodologies and approaches suited to a better world. With a degree in Biological Natural Sciences she brings her understanding of biological networks and systems thinking into governance, organisational structures, narratives and imagination. From co-founding multiple organisations, designing and implementing learning programmes to facilitating groups across the world, Phoebe has been called a voice of the emerging future and one of the most important systems thinkers of her generation.Recorded in the Devonian woods around a campfire, Dan and Phoebe discuss: - Reflection, peace and slowness in a time when there’s lots to do- The rejection of indigenous wisdom/science unless ‘discovered’ by western science - Systems change; yet aren’t we the system? - In times of grief, what would a sane culture do?- Evolving from a self-exterminating society to a self-sustaining society- Caring for young imaginations in an era of technological entertainment- Moral Imagination. Imagination activists. And imaginal zones - Subsidising slowness, not speed and rewiring our economy - Power of the ‘sit spot’, make believe, masks and role play - Relationships and value between the human and more-than-human world- Everything is not in the government's hands. We can be empowered to create our own reality - Designing systems with wisdom. Bring it on! Play Out Track:Bonobo - SapienFrom the Album ‘ Fragments’https://music.apple.com/gb/album/sapien/1584968878?i=1584969129Sound Credits:Features birdsong recorded by Fintan O'Brienhttps://soundcloud.com/fintanobrienFull Shownotes:https://www.thespaceship.earth/podcast/2022/3/3/episode-57-phoebe-tickell-imagination-activism Get full access to Becoming Crew at becomingcrew.substack.com/subscribe

Jan 29, 2022 • 26min
Episode 56 - Dan Burgess - Becoming Crew - A Story about Stories
Hello 2022, hope this finds you well.I’ve been composting 2021.Episode 56 kicks off with something a bit different.An audio experiment to start the year.A story about stories.Last year I was invited to do a TED X Talk about the climate and ecological crisis, I wasn’t really sure what to talk about to be honest.I was struggling to think of what another white man, 50 years old could possibly add to all the noise in these extraordinary times.I was also feeling fairly burned out by the last two years, had just returned from COP26 and was strangely disoriented and quite frazzled.I decided to focus in on what I felt was the most valuable and useful learnings I have, that I could offer up in these unravelling and unknowing times. Even though I knew it might feel uncomfortable and challenging. I wanted to find a way to weave the vital threads of my inquiring over the last 15 years together with where my attention and work is deepening and orienting towards.It was quite a task to create, but I felt it didn’t end up working quite so well in a short talk format.Because it’s really a story about stories. So I decided to evolve and expand it and record it as a podcast, but a bit more immersive.It’s definitely right on my learning edge and I’m feeling a bit vulnerable putting this out. But that often means it needs to leave the nest.I really hope it speaks to you and if it does please consider sharing it with someone else. We’d be most grateful. And whatever it makes you think or feel - I'd love to hear any feedback.There are so many amazing humans and more than humans who have influenced the creation of this episode. You know who you are.I’d recommend headphones or a decent speaker setup for this one. And being still. EnjoyA massive shout to Charlie Shread - Audio Jedi for making this sound awesome.#becomingcrew #thespaceshipearthpodcastLink:The Great Accelerationhttps://www.slideshare.net/IGBPSecretariat/great-acceleration-2015https://stories.life/https://stories.life/chapter/the-narrative-of-separation/Thanks for listening to The Spaceship Earth Podcast.Host: Dan Burgess @dan__burgessEdit: Charlie ShreadShownotes: Vicki TurnerMusic: Escape Goat by Soren LorensonJoin us on Instagram: @thespaceship.earthSubscribe to occasional newsletter: becomingcrew.substack.com/welcomeIf you wish to support The Spaceship Earth podcast, please leave us a review or share your favourite episode on social media. With gratitude Get full access to Becoming Crew at becomingcrew.substack.com/subscribe

Dec 21, 2021 • 1h 13min
Earth Sessions 21.12.2021 - Into the Solstice - Dan Solo in the mix
Finishing the year with a cheeky mix offering from the shedDeep, pumping, cosmic, emotive, full of light, love, grief, confusion, darkness and slightly twisted. Bit like my year.A mix to shuffle, shape-shift, stomp and sway into the Winter Solstice.To mark the end of this cycle of the sun. And the letting go of a year.Impossible to express in words.(Better through music)Marking the start.Of a time of rest, reflection and gratitude.Massive respect and gratitude to all the artists and producers featured in this mix. Your gifts keep me moving. Steven Weston- The SolentAparde - Integrity (Lusine mix)Junior Akwety - Vibe with MeProff - Whale SongMass Digital - Joie de vivreGilad Bemamram - Impossible Love ( Guy Mantur mix)Sex of insects - I can hear the light (Dave Pad mix)Cornucopia - Letter for PolyHalo Vargo - Future ( Guy J mix)Tim Green - Over the water (Tim Green & Izvhevski mix)Soma Soul - Eclipse feat Ed Begley ( Edu Imberno mix)Big Earthy HugsTo everyone I’ve connected with this year. Those I’ve worked with, created with, plotted with, played with, despaired with. My family, friends and community for endless love and support.To all the incredible guests on the podcast.To my podcast crew.To everyone who has listened, shared, commented and reviewed.Thank you.There’s more coming in 2022.Big shout to the Becoming Crew Learning Marathon.To all the mind-blowing activists, campaigners, artists, creators, writers, designers, podcasters, film makers, farmers, growers, change-makers, imagineers, storytellers, lovers, carers, healers, nurturers, connectors and mischief makers who continue to keep it real when things can feel hopeless. To the NHS. To the more than human crew on Spaceship Earth who create the conditions for all life.To all those midwifing a more beautiful world.Keep the love, care and kindness strong.We live on a life going rock called Earth, hurtling through space.Lets dance.And rest.Peace and out. Get full access to Becoming Crew at becomingcrew.substack.com/subscribe

Dec 13, 2021 • 2h 3min
Episode 55 - Will Rolph - Two Fields Zakros - Farming in Service to Life
"Carbon is the basic building blocks of life. It’s not actually a negative thing. Very rarely in a natural system is something objectively negative or positive. It plays its role. And so actually storing carbon and having carbon in your soil is incredibly important. And of course huge amounts of carbon has been lost from the soil. So there’s huge potential to store carbon in the soil. However I will say that we will get ourselves in trouble if we turn farming into a carbon storing exercise. I believe that we can store carbon in the soil and it’s really important for farming, and really important for the environment and the future. But I’m worried if we go down the route of only farming to store carbon, we lose the holistic understanding of nature and we end up back in a reductionist system where we are only thinking about carbon storage. To thrive we have to consider everything, and we have to understand the ecosystem in its entirety.” Will Rolph works with his brother Harry, farming olives at Two Fields in Zakros. After moving to Zakros they soon discovered a beautiful olive craft passed down through generations that was under threat from a broken industrialized food system. Diving deep into regenerative farming and rebuilding land & soil, they work together with their family and community to produce small batches of olive oil.Listen to Dan and Will discuss: - Journey from sustainable design, craftsmanship to regenerative olive farming - Chemical, reductionist and monoculture farming works. But only for the short term - In regenerative farming we give more than we take - Becoming ‘more forest, than field’ - How are we repairing our planet and building a future that’s possible - Strength in diversity - Farmers and customers become trapped in a system that only benefits the corporation - The gift of mentorship and the proud nod of ‘you’ve got this’ - Land can’t give anymore than it is given - Learning from the ancient and wild olive trees found in the mountains - Deep connection to land and tasting the fruits of your labour - Sharing the stories of Zakros through natural ingredients - Joy to be found in limits and constraints - Small is beautiful and powerful - What we do to our soils, we do to ourselves - Industrialisation disconnects us from valuable felt experiences - Be an enquiring mind. Ask real questions - Look after one another Community and Links Places: Zakros Connect:Two Fields - https://twofieldszakros.comInstagram - @twofieldszakros ————— Thanks for listening to The Spaceship Earth Podcast. Host: Dan Burgess @dan__burgessEdit: Charlie ShreadShownotes: Vicki TurnerMusic: Escape Goat by Soren LorensonJoin us on Instagram: @thespaceship.earthSubscribe to monthly newsletter: https://becomingcrew.substack.com/welcome If you wish to support The Spaceship Earth podcast, please leave us a review or share your favourite episode on social media, as this helps enormously. -- Get full access to Becoming Crew at becomingcrew.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 21, 2021 • 1h 59min
Episode 54 - Stories for Life - What if Stories are technologies for beautiful change?
“Now there are lots of writers who talk about how foundational stories have been across history. Just take Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari, in it he maps that without story, humans wouldn’t have been able to live in civilisations larger than about 20,000. That myth and story have been fundamental to our evolution as a species. And if we want to shift stories, we need to start thinking of them as technologies. We need to recognise them for the complex and potent things that they are.”This episode explores the role of stories and narrative as a technology for foundational economic system change. Stories For Life is a project authored by Dan Burgess and Paddy Loughman in collaboration with The Green Economy Coalition and The WellBeing Economy Alliance. Collectively they explored how stories may help design an economy in service to life. To weave this narrative requires engagement across cultures. It needs everyone who brings stories into our cultures to participate and play. This podcast was recorded at The Stories For Life event hearing from those working to create new narratives through creative culture, arts, activism, new economic design, leadership, community action and more.Listen to speakers: Dan Burgess- Our current destructive narratives- What if we could evolve these stories? - What if we can jump into uncertainty?- What if this is the most exciting and imaginative time? Paddy Loughman- Symptoms of a deadly economy and how to design an alternative in service to life- Separation and competition over kindness, compassion, cooperation, diversity, creativity and care- Economics are not fixed, they were designed. So they can be redesigned. Upgraded Ella Saltmarshe- Myth and story are fundamental to the evolution of our species- Change the Things. Change the Relationships. Change the goals - Donella Meadows - The values we hold will determine the stories we collectively have- What changes when we understand ourselves as good ancestors?- Radical kinship and care Carlota Sanz- A new vision for the 21st century - A doughnut!- An inherited degenerative system to a new regenerative and cyclical system- What would it take to realise the new doughnut economy? - Change makers to change makers. The most effective way to realise a new paradigm Kumi Naidoo- What’s the biggest contribution we can make to the cause of justice? It’s not about giving your life, but giving the rest of your life - Activists no longer speak the same language of the people- What is needed? System innovation. System redesign. System transformation- Bravery is required to tackle the root of our problems- The focus is too much on what people don’t have, not what people have.- An appeal for a just social contract Andres Roberts- How do we change the story of human progress by working with nature?- Nature works in cycles and webs of connection, not straight lines, pyramids and hierarchies- Humanity’s guiding principle is growth. Yet nature is based on optimisation- When we listen and observe to nature, a new kind of knowledge arises- We have emerged from nature. If we connect back to this truth we’ll rekindle our feeling of belongingCommunity: Green Economy Coalition - https://www.greeneconomycoalition.orgWellbeing Economy Alliance - https://weall.orgThe Longtime Academy - https://www.thelongtimeproject.orgCivic Square - https://civicsquare.cc/team/Donut Economics Action Lab - https://doughnuteconomics.orgBio-Leadership Project - https://www.bio-leadership.orgPower People & Planet - Kumi Naidoo https://www.powerpeopleplanet.org/Stories For Life (You Tube) - https://stories.life/get-involved—————Thanks for listening to The Spaceship Earth Podcast.Host: Dan Burgess @dansolo__Edit: Charlie ShreadShownotes: Vicki TurnerMusic: Escape Goat by Soren LorensonJoin us on Instagram: @thespaceship.earthSubscribe to monthly newsletter: https://becomingcrew.substack.com/welcome Get full access to Becoming Crew at becomingcrew.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 3, 2021 • 1h 24min
Episode 53 - Mya-Rose Craig - Birdgirl - We have a dream
“What I'd say is for people my age it’s totally about intersectionality and recognising that to fix one thing, we need to fix various other things as well. One thing I really noticed while writing ‘We have a dream’ was how young so many of the people were when they started, it isn’t teenagers, it’s young children; seven, eight, nine year olds taking it upon themselves to make things better because they were seeing a failure from generations before them. I think while in some ways it’s incredibly inspiring to see people feeling capable to go out and change the world like that, in some ways I think it’s incredibly sad that kids feel the need.”Mya Rose Craig AKA Birdgirl is a racial equality & climate and environmental campaigner and activist. Nineteen and British-Bangladeshi, she’s the youngest British person to be awarded an honorary Doctorate of Science for fighting for equal access to nature and ethnic diversity in the environmental sector. As her name suggests, she’s a passionate birdwatcher, a speaker, once sharing a stage with Greta Thunberg, and the President of Black2Nature, a charity providing nature camps for teenagers introducing them to the natural world.Listen to Dan and Mya-Rose discuss: - From birding, blogging, to activism - A childhood of ecological awareness - Equity in the climate change movement and the challenges of modern colonialism - Access to nature as a human right for all not just the privileged - Black2Nature - A Visible Minority Ethnic led organisation to give access to VME communities who are excluded from the countryside - ‘We Have A Dream’ a book to amplify the voice of thirty young indigenous people and people of colour protecting the planet - Joy of watching under appreciated birds - How capitalism has contributed to disconnecting and undervaluing the natural world - Burnout, The Resilience Project and birding as meditation - Hope for COP 26 - Activism. Fueled by my love for birds and the planet Community and Links Projects:Black2Nature - https://www.birdgirluk.com/black2nature/The Resilience Project - https://www.theresilienceproject.org.ukYouth for our Panet - https://youthforourplanet.com People: Greta Thunberg Books/Films/Talks: We Have A Dream - https://www.birdgirluk.com/shop/My Octopus Teacher - https://www.netflix.com/title/81045007Youth Strike 4 Climate Talk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLxyfpYr8mw Places: BristolBangladesh Connect:https://www.birdgirluk.com@birdgirluk ————— Thanks for listening to The Spaceship Earth Podcast. Host: Dan Burgess @dan__burgessEdit: Charlie ShreadShownotes: Vicki TurnerMusic: Escape Goat by Soren LorensonJoin us on Instagram: @thespaceship.earthSubscribe to monthly newsletter: https://becomingcrew.substack.com/welcome If you wish to support The Spaceship Earth podcast, please leave us a review or share your favourite episode on social media, as this helps enormously. Get full access to Becoming Crew at becomingcrew.substack.com/subscribe

Sep 20, 2021 • 1h 29min
Episode 52 - Hugo Tagholm - Surfers Against Sewage - The Ocean Decade
“I think fundamentally it all comes down to the systems and structures we live within. We are all trapped within this economic structure at the moment. We are trapped in a carbon structure. I mean even what we do every day - let’s be brutally honest - we all go to work and do things that are reliant on those things. It’s not straight-forward. What I do think, is that there’s paralysis within the government because of that. The changes that we need are pretty dramatic. It will cost jobs from certain industries, in fossil fuels and in damaging industries. But it has to be presented as creating new opportunities. Renewable and sustainable businesses. The benefits we’ll get at protecting big parts of our world and taking the public on a new journey through that. And people also need to talk about western consumption levels, which are absolutely unsustainable.”Hugo Tagholm is the Chief Executive of the national marine conservation and campaigning charity Surfers Against Sewage. He is an environmentalist, campaigner, surfer, charity professional and public speaker. A rare breed, Hugo embodies a wildness from his deep relationship with the ocean and the natural world. He mobilises and helps enable community led participation in change and has vision for how we can evolve. With courage and energy he uses his influence on business and politics to help make the transformative shifts we need for all future life. Listen to Dan and Hugo discuss: - Creating change together in the most radical decade of environmental activism- The fear yet also the strength, lessons and impact made throughout the pandemic- Hybrid activism. Embracing diversity in campaigns - Decade of government action required to bring back thriving natural systems - Trapped within human made systems and structures - On a knife-edge. The pandemic highlights how fragile society and individuals have become - Economic systems rely on exploitation and destruction. Individual choice is not enough. Entire systems need to reform and change - Impacts of large businesses extracting nutrients from communities - Social media’s ability to dis-connect us from life - Diversity of collaborations to enrich discussions and solutions - Changing our stories from scarcity and competition, to abundance, generosity and reciprocity - Active hope for life. And catching waves - Action is a non negotiable. And many still have the imagination to dream up new possibilities - G7 protests call for urgent action on the ocean and climate crisis - Radical action. Radical humans Community and Links Projects:Surfers Against Sewage - https://www.sas.org.ukBiosphere 2 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere_2 Books: Active Hope - https://www.activehope.info/the-book Films: Spaceship Earth Documentary - https://mattwolf.info/Spaceship-Earth People: Tom Kay Prince CharlesJoe BidenJustin Trudeau Places: Cornwall Connect:https://www.instagram.com/surfersagainstsewagehttps://twitter.com/sascampaigns ————— Play out track:Blurred by Kiasmos (Bonobo Remix)https://kiasmos.bandcamp.com/track/blurred-bonobo-remix Thanks for listening to The Spaceship Earth Podcast. Host: Dan Burgess @dansolo__Edit: Charlie ShreadShownotes: Vicki TurnerMusic: Escape Goat by Soren LorensonJoin us on Instagram: @thespaceship.earthSubscribe to monthly newsletter: https://becomingcrew.substack.com/welcome If you wish to support The Spaceship Earth podcast, please leave us a review or share your favourite episode on social media, as this helps enormously. Get full access to Becoming Crew at becomingcrew.substack.com/subscribe