

Financial Modeler's Corner
Paul Barnhurst AKA The FP&A Guy
Financial Modeler's Corner is a podcast where we talk all about the art and science of financial modeling with distinguished Financial Modeler's from around the globe. Financial Modeler's Corner is hosted by Paul Barnhurst, aka The FP&A Guy, a global thought leader in the field of finance.
The Financial Modeler's Corner podcast is brought to you by Financial Modeling Institute. FMI offers the most respected accreditations in financial modeling.
The Financial Modeler's Corner podcast is brought to you by Financial Modeling Institute. FMI offers the most respected accreditations in financial modeling.
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Aug 12, 2025 • 46min
How FP&A Teams Turn Confusing Budgets into Strategic Tools That Drive Alignment with Sarah Schlott
In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, host Paul Barnhurst welcomes Sarah Schlott, founder of The Schlott Company. Sarah shares her perspective on why financial models often fail, not because of bad math, but because they don’t reflect how real businesses work. She talks about what it takes to earn trust as a finance partner, how to clean up messy data without losing momentum, and the importance of getting the right people involved in the process. Sarah and Paul also dive into how finance teams can shift from reactive number-crunchers to proactive business partners that bring clarity and confidence to decision-making.Sarah Schlott is a strategic finance leader with over 18 years of experience guiding companies through growth, M&A, and operational change. She’s worked across corporate finance, forecasting, budgeting, and reporting infrastructure. Sarah is the founder of The Schlott Company, where she helps founders bring order to financial chaos. Her approach blends classic FP&A with modern tools and a deep understanding of real-world business dynamics. She believes finance should bring clarity, not confusion.Expect to LearnWhy overly complex models usually create more confusion than insightWhat it means to be “battle-tested” as a finance leaderHow to build models that reflect business reality, not just spreadsheetsWhat to do when the data is unreliable or inconsistentWhy involving department heads early leads to better models and better outcomesHere are a few quotes from the episode:"When you’re constantly fighting about the numbers, you’re not ready to present the model." - Sarah Schlott"If the people who own the numbers don’t see themselves in the model, you should probably just chuck it." - Sarah Schlott"Stop being the cop. Be the radio tower that keeps everything aligned." Sarah SchlottFollow Sarah:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahschlott/Website - http://www.sarahgschlott.com/Company - https://theschlottco.com/Follow Paul: Website - https://www.thefpandaguy.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguyYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@thefpandaguyFollow Financial Modeler's Corner: LinkedIn Page- https://www.linkedin.com/company/financial-modeler-s-corner/?viewAsMember=true Newsletter - Subscribe on LinkedIn-https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7079020077076905984Sign up for the Advanced Financial Modeler Accreditation Today and receive 15% off by using the special show code ‘Podcast’. Visit https://bit.ly/497oAqW and use the code “Podcast” to save 15% when you register. In today’s episode: [01:53] - Introduction to Sarah Schlott[03:14] - Worst Model Horror Story[07:48] - Founding The Schlott Company[10:19] - Experience Needed to Go Fractional[14:53] - Building Finance That Brings Calm, Not Confusion[17:28] - How to Work with Messy Data[20:58] - Pressure Testing Financial Models[28:04] - Finance as a Radio Tower, Not a Traffic Cop[39:39] - Rapid-Fire: Excel Tools and Modeling Styles[43:37] - Wrapping Up and Final Thoughts

Aug 5, 2025 • 43min
An AI Excel Tool for Finance Teams to Speed Up DCFs and Scenario Modelling with Nico Christie
In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, host Paul Barnhurst welcomes Nico Christie, co-founder of Fundamental Research Labs and creator of Shortcut, the superhuman Excel agent. Nico shares insights into his fascinating journey, from being a professional athlete to leading groundbreaking AI projects. Together, they explain how AI is revolutionizing financial modeling and making Excel smarter than ever before. Nico also discusses his work at Fundamental Research Labs, where they aim to build digital humans using AI, and the development of Shortcut, which aims to streamline the way we use Excel for financial modeling tasks. Nico Christie is the co-founder of Fundamental Research Labs and the CEO of Shortcut, a cutting-edge AI tool designed to supercharge Excel. Nico’s diverse background spans professional athletics, corporate finance, and AI research. His work at Fundamental Research Labs focuses on building AI that mimics human-like qualities, such as emotional experiences and consciousness. Nico has a passion for both technology and the real-world applications of AI in tools like Excel, making complex tasks faster and more intuitive.Expect to LearnHow Shortcut is revolutionizing Excel for financial modeling with AI.The process behind building digital humans at Fundamental Research Labs.Nico’s journey from professional dunker to AI innovator.How AI tools like Shortcut are transforming the financial modeling landscape.Insights on the future of AI in Excel and the response from companies like Microsoft.Here are a few quotes from the episode:"I just think Excel is the most beautiful design software ever created by humans." - Nico Christie"The goal of the company is to build digital humans, giving AI all of the fundamental human qualities, not just intelligence." - Nico Christie"People who were initially afraid of AI are no longer afraid once they see how it can be used in software engineering." - Nico ChristieFollow Nico:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicochristie/Twitter - https://x.com/nicochristie Follow Paul: Website - https://www.thefpandaguy.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguyYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@thefpandaguy Follow Financial Modeler's Corner: LinkedIn Page- https://www.linkedin.com/company/financial-modeler-s-corner/?viewAsMember=true Newsletter - Subscribe on LinkedIn-https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7079020077076905984Sign up for the Advanced Financial Modeler Accreditation Today and receive 15% off by using the special show code ‘Podcast’. Visit https://bit.ly/497oAqW and use the code “Podcast” to save 15% when you register. In today’s episode: [02:15] - Introduction to Nico Christie[02:38] - Worst Model Horror Story[06:32] - Upcoming Projects and Exciting Roadblocks[09:14] - The Journey to Dunking[17:21] - The Power of Excel's Top Buttons[20:17] - Reviewing vs. Starting from Scratch[21:38] - Struggles with Formatting in Model Reviews[32:35] - The Impact of AI Tools on the Profession[37:26] - Favorite Excel Shortcut[39:54] - Financial Models as Decision-Making Tools[42:34] - Wrapping Up

Jul 29, 2025 • 48min
The Truth About Project Finance for Modelers to Avoid Complexity & Build Impact with Patrick Daguet
In this discussion, Patrick Daguet, a seasoned finance professional and president of Sharklets, shares his deep insights into the realm of financial modeling. He emphasizes treating models as decision-making tools and discusses the unique complexities of project finance versus corporate finance. Listeners will enjoy his personal anecdotes, including the joy of working on major infrastructure projects like the Stade de France. Patrick also highlights the importance of continuous learning and curiosity in the field, alongside practical tips for enhancing modeling skills.

Jul 22, 2025 • 32min
How Financial Modelers Rely on Memorability, Not Accuracy, to Get Ahead in Excel with Finance Bro
Your Average Finance Bro, a humorous figure in financial modeling and a self-proclaimed Goldman Sachs founder, dives into the often serious world of finance with a comedic twist. He discusses why memorability trumps technical accuracy in Excel, sharing funny stories about using spreadsheets in dating. The importance of personal branding, hilarious pranks, and some unconventional networking strategies are also explored. Expect laughs alongside insights as Finance Bro showcases how to present financial models confidently, even with questionable numbers!

Jul 15, 2025 • 49min
How Students Master Financial Modeling and Bridge the CFA Practical Skills Gap with Stephen Horan
In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, host Paul Barnhurst welcomes Dr. Stephen Horan to discuss the fundamentals of financial modeling, the challenges and rewards of teaching finance, and how curiosity and simplicity are central to both education and professional modeling. Dr. Horan draws on his extensive experience as a finance professor and former Managing Director at CFA Institute, offering unique insights into the intersection of academia, practical modeling, and credentialing.Dr. Stephen is a finance professor at UNC Wilmington and former Managing Director at the CFA Institute. He has over 30 years of experience in academia and industry, has authored award-winning research, and co-wrote Strategic Value Investing, featured on Warren Buffett’s reading list. His work bridges theory and practice in finance education. Dr. Horan is also a sought-after speaker and serves on editorial boards for leading finance journals.Expect to LearnWhat makes a model readable and useful and why fundamentals matter.How to teach financial modeling in a way that’s active and practical.The difference between book knowledge and real-world application in finance.Insights into CFA Institute’s evolution toward practical skills and global relevance.The mindset and skills students need to transition from learning to doing.Here are a few quotes from the episode:"Curiosity is the skill I had to learn and it’s the one that’s helped me most in my career." - Stephen Horan"Give someone the experience of building a model and solving problems. That’s the real education." - Stephen Horan"The ability to explain how you built a model is more powerful in an interview than listing courses on a résumé." Stephen HoranFollow Stephen:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephenhoranphd/Twitter - http://twitter.com/StephenHoranCFAFollow Paul: Website - https://www.thefpandaguy.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguyYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@thefpandaguyFollow Financial Modeler's Corner LinkedIn Page- https://www.linkedin.com/company/financial-modeler-s-corner/?viewAsMember=true Newsletter - Subscribe on LinkedIn-https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7079020077076905984Sign up for the Advanced Financial Modeler Accreditation Today and receive 15% off by using the special show code ‘Podcast’. Visit https://bit.ly/497oAqW and use the code “Podcast” to save 15% when you register. In today’s episode: [02:07] - Guest Introduction [04:19] - Modeling Horror Story [10:41] - Bridging Theory and Practice [13:31] - Power of Teaching [17:55] - Learning by Modeling [26:23] - CFA Institute Insights [35:07] - Favorite Excel Shortcut [39:36] - Rapid Fire Round [46:02] - Final Thoughts and Contact

Jul 8, 2025 • 57min
Building a Practical Financial Modeling Course for students focused on sustainability with Michael & Janice
In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, host Paul Barnhurst speaks with Janice Shade and Michael Tapia about the intersection of sustainability, financial modeling, and education. They share the behind-the-scenes creation of a unique MBA course focused on sustainable finance and modeling at Bard College. The episode dives into horror stories from the modeling trenches, highlights the challenges of teaching complex topics in an accessible way, and explores the future of financial education and tools.Janice is a systems entrepreneur and finance educator with over 30 years of experience. She has worked with both for-profit and nonprofit ventures, focusing on democratic access to capital and economic justice. Janice is also the author of Moving Mountains and teaches finance at Bard’s MBA in Sustainability program. Michael transitioned from the fitness industry into sustainable finance. With an MBA in Impact Finance from Bard, he co-developed and co-taught a financial modeling course that incorporates ESG data and sustainability into traditional financial analysis. Michael is passionate about inclusive, community-driven investment strategies and financial education.Expect to LearnWhat makes a financial model “fit for purpose”, and why complexity isn’t always better.How financial modeling can support sustainability and social impact.Tips for teaching finance to non-finance students and building curriculum from the ground up.The importance of scenario and sensitivity analysis in forecasting.Practical insights on bridging theory and hands-on financial modeling in academia.Here are a few quotes from the episode:"Finance shouldn't feel mystical or exclusive, our goal is to make it approachable and relevant." - Janice Shade"As a former trainer, I saw how performance metrics drove change. Now I see capital can do the same, if used with purpose." - Michael Tapia"Forecasting is hard, and no forecast is ever right. We're just trying to make it less wrong." - Janice ShadeFollow Janice:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/janice-shade/Website - https://innovatecapital.org/teamFollow Michael:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-tapia-Follow Paul: Website - https://www.thefpandaguy.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguyYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@thefpandaguyFollow Financial Modeler's Corner LinkedIn Page- https://www.linkedin.com/company/financial-modeler-s-corner/?viewAsMember=true Newsletter - Subscribe on LinkedIn-https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7079020077076905984Sign up for the Advanced Financial Modeler Accreditation Today and receive 15% off by using the special show code ‘Podcast’. Visit https://bit.ly/497oAqW and use the code “Podcast” to save 15% when you register. In today’s episode: [02:29] - Introduction of Janice and Michael[07:20] - Worst Financial Model[14:04] - Defining a Financial Model[15:18] - Story Behind the MBA Modeling Course[22:43] - Janice’s Key Takeaways from First Cohort[29:34] - Michael’s Course and Podcast Episodes[42:45] - Favourite Shortcut in Excel[43:47] - Creative Excel Uses[47:32] - Rapid Fire Section

Jul 1, 2025 • 46min
CFM Certification Tips for Financial Modelers to Pass Without 100 Hours with Carolina Lago
In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, host Paul Barnhurst and co-host Carolina Lago explore their experiences with financial modeling and the Advanced Financial Modeler (AFM) certification. They discuss the value of these certifications, the challenges of studying for them, and how these programs can improve financial modeling skills. They also provide helpful tips and insights into preparing for the Chartered Financial Modeler (CFM) certification.Carolina is a financial modeling and FP&A specialist with over 20 years of experience. She holds the Advanced Financial Modeler (AFM) certification from the Financial Modeling Institute (FMI) and is working toward the Elite Certified Financial Modeler (CFM) credential. Carolina is passionate about teaching financial modeling and helping professionals use financial models to make better strategic decisions. Her workshops focus on best practices, scenario analysis, and providing businesses with the tools needed to navigate financial challenges.Expect to LearnThe definition of a financial model and how to differentiate it from other types of business models.Tips for studying for the AFM and CFM certifications, including managing time effectively and balancing models as you work.Carolina’s experience preparing for the AFM and how to build financial models quickly under pressure.The importance of practice in financial modeling and how to improve speed and efficiency.The differences between the AFM and CFM certifications and why both are valuable for financial modelers.Here are a few quotes from the episode:"Even if I don’t pass the first time, I will have already succeeded by learning new techniques and improving my skills." - Carolina Lago"You need to be resourceful and think quickly when preparing for the CFM. It’s about adapting to complexity in multiple areas." - Carolina Lago"A financial model is anything that has inputs, calculations, and outputs, but at the same time answers a business question." - Carolina LagoFollow Carolina:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/s-carolinalago?originalSubdomain=chWebsite - carolinalago.comCourse Tactic On-Demand: https://tacticfinancial.com/financial-model-for-you/newsletter: https://pages.tacticfinancial.com/thetacticalroomFollow Paul: Website - https://www.thefpandaguy.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguyYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@thefpandaguyFollow Financial Modeler's Corner LinkedIn Page- https://www.linkedin.com/company/financial-modeler-s-corner/?viewAsMember=true Newsletter - Subscribe on LinkedIn-https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7079020077076905984Sign up for the Advanced Financial Modeler Accreditation Today and receive 15% off by using the special show code ‘Podcast’. Visit https://bit.ly/497oAqW and use the code “Podcast” to save 15% when you register. In today’s episode: [08:03] - What is a Financial Model?[12:52] - Fun Use of Excel in Personal Life[17:06] - Learning About FMI[24:41] - Toughest Area in AFM Preparation[28:19] - Advice for AFM Exam[38:07] - CFM Difficulty and Value[42:36] - Broken Spreadsheet Joke[44:56] - Wrapping Up the Episode

Jun 24, 2025 • 55min
How Finance Professionals Can Grow with Excel, Avoid Automation Traps, and Build a Brand with Jon Acampora
In this episode of Financial Modeler's Corner, host Paul Barnhurst sits down with Jon Acampora to discuss the ever-evolving world of financial modeling, focusing on Excel. Jon shares about the importance of creating user-friendly models and the impact of Excel Esports on financial modeling skills. The conversation covers best practices for building efficient models, lessons from Excel competitions, and how new technologies like Power Query and AI are shaping the future of modeling.Jon is the founder of Excel Campus, a Microsoft MVP, and an expert in helping Excel users simplify and automate their workflows. With over 600,000 YouTube subscribers, Jon is passionate about making Excel both fun and efficient. He’s also a regular commentator for Excel Esports competitions, where Excel professionals compete to solve complex modeling challenges in real time. Jon’s mission is to help people leverage Excel to boost productivity and creativity, making financial modeling more accessible and enjoyable.Expect to LearnThe importance of building financial models that are easy for others to understand and use.Jon's take on the role of Excel Esports in advancing modeling skills and fostering creativity.How Power Query can save you hours of data processing time in Excel.Why financial modelers should focus on simplicity and automation rather than over-complicating their models.Insights into the future of financial modeling with the integration of Python and AI tools.Here are a few quotes from the episode:“AI is great at generating code, but it’s the human creativity that still leads the way.” - Jon Acampora“As an Excel professional, it's important to make models that others can easily work with, even if they don't have the same technical skills you do.” - Jon Acampora“If you want to be great at Excel, you have to understand that learning never stops. There’s always something new to discover.” - Jon AcamporaFollow Jon:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonacampora/YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/ExcelCampusWebsite - https://www.excelcampus.com/Follow Paul: Website - https://www.thefpandaguy.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguyYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@thefpandaguyFollow Financial Modeler's Corner LinkedIn Page- https://www.linkedin.com/company/financial-modeler-s-corner/?viewAsMember=true Newsletter - Subscribe on LinkedIn-https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7079020077076905984Sign up for the Advanced Financial Modeler Accreditation Today and receive 15% off by using the special show code ‘Podcast’. Visit https://bit.ly/497oAqW and use the code “Podcast” to save 15% when you register. In today’s episode: [03:45] - Horror Story [08:50] - Defining Financial Models [11:55] - From Accounting to Excel Business [18:42] - Competing in Excel Esports [21:27] - What Jon Enjoys About Announcing [27:36] - Advice for Aspiring Excel Competitors [37:43] - Memorable Teaching Moment [42:43] - Favourite Excel Shortcut [45:12] - Rapid Fire Section

Jun 17, 2025 • 53min
Excel SIM Method for Finance Students to Master Three Statement Models Fast with Drew Blazsik
In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, host Paul Barnhurst sits down with Drew Blazsik to dive into the evolving world of financial modeling in academia. Drew brings a fresh perspective on how students can better grasp complex concepts using structured, interactive learning. The conversation touches on practical teaching methods, the common pitfalls students face, and why blending creativity with structure is key to mastering the three-statement model.Drew Blazsik is an assistant professor at Adrian College, where he teaches finance and economics. With over a decade of teaching experience at institutions like the University of Toledo and Lourdes University, Drew has a passion for connecting academic finance theory with real-world applications. He is also the creator of the Structured Immediate Method (SIM), an innovative teaching tool designed to help students master financial modeling skills in a dynamic and engaging way. Drew hosts the Faith and Finance Podcast and runs the Logos and Markets YouTube channel, where he explores financial modeling, economic theory, and more.Expect to LearnCommon mistakes students make in financial modeling and how to avoid them.How Drew’s Structured Immediate Method (SIM) enhances student learning.Why learning Python is crucial for modern financial modelers.The impact of gamification and interactive learning on mastering financial concepts.Drew's take on the future of financial modeling in the age of AI.Here are a few quotes from the episode:“Once you understand how to create a financial model, it all clicks and makes finance come together.” - Drew Blazsik“AI is awesome for creativity, but it starts with you, the human, being creative.” - Drew Blazsik“The SIM method helps students get instant feedback, which improves their learning and engagement.” -Drew BlazsikFollow Drew:LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewblazsik/YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/drewblazsikFollow Paul: Website - https://www.thefpandaguy.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguyYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@thefpandaguyFollow Financial Modeler's Corner LinkedIn Page- https://www.linkedin.com/company/financial-modeler-s-corner/?viewAsMember=true Newsletter - Subscribe on LinkedIn-https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7079020077076905984Sign up for the Advanced Financial Modeler Accreditation Today and receive 15% off by using the special show code ‘Podcast’. Visit https://bit.ly/497oAqW and use the code “Podcast” to save 15% when you register. In today’s episode: [04:15] - Student Modeling Mistakes[09:07] - Defining Financial Models[12:08] - Teaching Finance vs. Economics[18:21] - Course Feedback[36:27] - Unique Excel Model[39:04] - Excel Shortcuts[42:44] - Financial Models in Decision Making[45:40] - Importance of Python[50:39] - Last Question

Jun 10, 2025 • 48min
The Financial Failures in Startups for Founders to Fix Bad Data and Build Profit with Alyona Mysko
In this episode of Financial Modeler’s Corner, Alyona Mysko shares her journey from a PwC auditor to a fintech founder creating FuelFinance, a no-code financial planning tool tailored for startups and small businesses. She discusses common financial modeling challenges faced by first-time founders, the complexities of the manufacturing and fashion industries, and the importance of simplifying financial models for better decision-making. Alyona emphasizes the power of effective communication and scenario planning, helping entrepreneurs and modelers make sense of numbers to drive business success.Alyona Mysko is the Founder and CEO of FuelFinance, a fintech startup delivering no-code financial planning tools designed specifically for startups and small businesses. With a professional background starting as an auditor at PwC, Alyona transitioned into financial analysis and fractional CFO roles before launching her own company. She brings deep expertise in financial modeling and a passion for simplifying complex financial data to empower founders and entrepreneurs. Expect to LearnHow Alyona’s audit background influenced the creation of a finance platform for startupsWhy first-time founders struggle with financial modeling and how second-time founders differThe complexity behind manufacturing and fashion business models and modeling nuancesThe importance of simplified dashboards focusing on key metrics for decision-makingWhy communication and storytelling in financial modeling is essential for impactHere are a few quotes from the episode:“Finance is just like fuel for a business. If you understand your numbers, you can go fast.” - Alyona MyskoFirst-time founders don’t know what they don’t know. Second-time founders know to start with the financial model.” - Alyona Mysko“Communication is 50% of your success as a financial modeler.” - Alyona MyskoFollow Alyona :LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alyona-mysko/Website - https://fuelfinance.me/Follow Paul: Website - https://www.thefpandaguy.com LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguyYouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@thefpandaguyFollow Financial Modeler's Corner LinkedIn Page- https://www.linkedin.com/company/financial-modeler-s-corner/?viewAsMember=true Newsletter - Subscribe on LinkedIn-https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7079020077076905984Sign up for the Advanced Financial Modeler Accreditation Today and receive 15% off by using the special show code ‘Podcast’. Visit https://bit.ly/497oAqW and use the code “Podcast” to save 15% when you register. In today’s episode: [02:31] - The Story Behind FuelFinance[06:00] - Aylona’s Background[11:03] - Industry-Specific Modeling Challenges[18:14] - Cross-Functional Realization[23:57] - Revenue vs. Cash Flow Realities[28:14] - Balancing Model Simplicity[35:11] - Key Career Lesson[39:41] - Rapid Fire Section