

Build a Better Agency Podcast
Drew McLellan
Scale and grow your agency with better clients, invested employees, and a stronger bottom line, with Drew McLellan.
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Aug 24, 2020 • 50min
EP 255: Your agency in the post-COVID world with Drew McLellan
There’s no doubt that covid is going to leave its mark. For most of us, it’s the most disruptive event of our lifetime. The question is – what are those lasting marks? In this solocast, I’m going to walk you the changes that I think are inevitable. Some of them are short term and others will be around for many years. The good news is – it’s not all bad news! We’re going to look at changes that will impact your staffing, your pocketbook, the work you do, what clients are demanding, and how your work will be measured. While we’re not completely out from under covid’s crunch, I am already seeing agencies pivoting into these changes and reaping significant rewards for being out in front of the evolution. I want to make sure you’re able to react quickly and fend off the risks and capitalize on the new opportunities. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here: https://www.whitelabeliq.com/ami/ What You Will Learn in This Episode: What we can expect to see in the short and long-term as we sail out of the COVID storm How agency owners should navigate the post-COVID landscape What agency owners can do to address the changes that will impact their cash flow How agency teams can and should change in the post covid world Why the work week as we know it will never look the same How the pandemic’s effect on mental health is going to impact your agency How to deal with skittish clients during the recovery period Why COVID is a huge kick in the butt to get out there and sell

Aug 17, 2020 • 50min
EP 254: Looping your agency into the membership economy with Robbie Baxter
We all have experienced the membership economy. Disney+, Dollar Shave Club, and a wide variety of meal prep kits delivered to your door. But, does it work in the B2B or service delivery worlds? When we talk about the membership economy, we are talking about something much deeper than the transactional value of memberships and subscriptions we pay for each month. It’s about how we are treated and cared for by the businesses whose programs we join. As we think about how to strategically guide our clients – this is a concept we need to understand. Robbie Baxter is an author and one of the foremost experts on the membership economy. She has written two books including The Forever Transaction and her earlier book, The Membership Economy. In this episode of Build a Better Agency, Robbie explains how the membership mentality benefits a business and its clients, and she walks us through some of the challenges as well. Is it a viable option for your agency or some of your clients? I think the answer might just surprise you! A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: The framework of Robbie’s books and teachings How the membership economy has changed the way we look at our business model Why the subscription religion is taking over all industries How the membership model translates in the B2B space Why membership is still a viable option if you are an artisanal bakery How to get your clients on board with a membership model if it makes sense for them The common obstacles we may run into while trying to roll out a subscription service within a client’s organization

Aug 10, 2020 • 57min
EP 253: Smart outsourcing for agencies with Brian Gerstner
Prior to the economic downturn in ‘07-’08, I worked with a lot of agency owners who were very adamant that they would never outsource any of their services. Then the recession hit. Agencies were forced to trim their payroll and job-out projects to 1099s and other partners. Today, 99% of the agencies I work with have a hybrid business model that incorporates some type of outsourcing. When done well, this is actually a benefit to your clients so the question becomes how can you make this work in your agency? Brian Gerstner joins us in this episode of Build a Better Agency to explain how we can build and maintain strong partnerships that work well for all concerned. Brian Gerstner has over twenty years of experience working with agency owners across the globe. He currently serves as the Creative Services Director for Huebner Marketing and the presenting sponsor of this podcast, White Label IQ. Brian offers a unique perspective on working with freelancers and outsourced service providers because he understands the nuances that influence these working relationships as both an agency creative director and the guy who heads up an outsourced resource. Like most relationships, making it a rewarding experience for everyone takes work, commitment, and consistent communication. Listen to Brian’s tips and learn how to incorporate outsourced labor into your business model in a way that serves everyone well. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How agency owners can be a good partner to their outsourced partners and vice versa How to pick the right outsource partner for your agency’s needs What outsource partners should bring to the table to improve the workflow How to manage communication with your partners under a compressed timeline How White Lable IQ demonstrates technical expertise to people who aren’t technical How to know when it’s time to pull the plug on a partnership How to set clear expectations with your outsource partners Why outsourcing is a great way to try before you buy How to disclose your outsource partners to your clients

Aug 3, 2020 • 1h 12min
EP 252: Subconscious barriers to your agency’s success with Amira Alvarez
This may be the most unorthodox episode of Build A Better Agency to date. When I met Amira Alverez, who helps agency owners and leaders really harness the power of the subconscious mind, I was intrigued and invited her to be a guest. But then she asked if she could turn the tables on me and do a coaching session with me – live – and we’d let all of you eavesdrop in on the session. I’ll admit, I was anxious about it. I didn’t want the episode to be about me. But Amira flipped the script and takes us all through a live-action case study using her methodology, with yours truly as the subject. She stops and coaches along the way and in the end, it’s a brilliant look at how we are all the biggest detriment to the success we’re capable of achieving as agency owners. Amira Alvarez is the founder and CEO of The Unstoppable Woman, a global coaching company helping entrepreneurs, empire builders, athletes, creatives, agency owners, and rising stars in all fields achieve their dreams and goals in record time. Before Amira got clear on her goals, she was making $135k, but only a short while later, she started producing a seven-figure income that she’s been able to sustain to this day. Amira helps agency owners figure out what they want, and what’s in the way. I encourage you to join in on this unique journey because you might have a breakthrough as well. Follow along and work through Amira’s process with us—it may provide you with clarity in areas you have struggled with for years. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Amira’s entrepreneurial journey A live-action case study using practices from Amira’s success methodology How we as agency owners can own the truth about what we really want How to get clear on your big, audacious goal and make a plan to execute it Why a timeline is such a huge factor in your ability to achieve your goal How to understand your subconscious mind and self-image Tactical strategies and mindset shifts you can use to get out of your own way

Jul 27, 2020 • 58min
EP 251: The science of marketing with Patrick Renvoise
As agency owners, we are constantly searching for new ways to harness the power of persuasion and trigger an audience’s buy-button on behalf of our clients. Understanding what’s happening inside the consumer’s head and what drives their behavior is where that effort begins. We’ve always worked to understand how audiences in the past, but what if we could leverage data and science to crack the code and target the decision-making part of a prospect’s brain? As a neuroscientist and an agency owner, my guest Patrick Renvoise bridges the gap between science and marketing so agency owners can understand what makes different audiences tick. He has taken an entirely new approach to persuasion that enables agency owners to better recommend marketing solutions to their clients by explaining the science behind them. It is one of the many reasons Patrick co-founded SalesBrain, the world’s first neuromarketing agency, where he currently serves as the Chief Persuasion Officer. In this episode, we’ll explore the science behind human decision-making and how we can harness that for our agencies and our clients. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How the brain reacts to persuasion The role of the primal brain in decision making, and how to reach it The six stimuli of the primal brain and how to leverage them in your work Why logical and emotional messaging is not enough to impact your customer’s decision How to position your agency against all of the other agencies in the landscape

Jul 20, 2020 • 52min
EP 250: State of the Agency 2020 Pt. II with Drew McLellan
In my 250th (man, how times flies!) episode of Build a Better Agency, we look at the next set of client and employee-focused trends from the 2020 Agency Trends Report, picking up where I left off in episode #245, which was me walking you through the first half of the trends. The back half of the report covers everything from employee retention and happiness to the changing needs of your clients as they respond to current events. I am hoping these trends will give you a better idea of what we can do to adapt to this complex economic climate while protecting the health of our agencies. Every summer, I consolidate the trends that I see every day in the 250+ small to mid-sized agencies we serve and distill them down for you so you can plan for these evolutions in our industry. With everything going on right now, it is hard to dedicate the necessary time and mental space to focus on running your agency. But, paying close attention to the health of your agency and the trends that will impact its health, is more important than ever before. We have to carve out of the time to protect our businesses and I am hoping that taking a look at these trends will help you do that. The State of the Agency 2020 will provide tons of insights to push through these difficult times and help your clients do the same. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here: https://www.whitelabeliq.com/ami/ What You Will Learn in This Episode: Why agency leaders had to make concessions due to employment shortages and how that trend is shifting How to regain control of your agency while maintaining employee retention and happiness How to take advantage of the expanded talent pool created by the pandemic Why our clients are looking to get a bigger share of wallet from their existing customers How agencies can capitalize on the need for cause and social marketing How agencies are stepping over the line and diving into sales strategies with clients Why clients are seeking out brand activation Best practices for embedded employees How we can help our clients create and manage private communities that are loyal to their brand New areas where agencies are making great money

Jul 13, 2020 • 59min
EP 249: Claim your agency’s position of authority with Michelle Prince
Most agencies do not have a reliable sales strategy. They either rely on referrals or they employ what I call the feast or famine methodology. Neither strategy actually delivers consistent, profitable prospects or new clients. There’s a new, better way to sell for agencies. I’m a huge believer in an agency owning a position of authority and using it to make sales easier, faster and more profitable. That’s why Stephen Woessner and I wrote a book on the subject! And it’s why I wanted to invite Michelle Prince onto the podcast. Michelle is a best-selling author, public speaker, self-publishing expert, and CEO/Founder of Performance Publishing Group. She offers a unique perspective on thought leadership to agency owners who are looking to establish a position of authority within their niche. She believes that authoring a book is the strategy of choice. In fact, Michelle says, “you can’t spell authority without ‘author,’” and while writing a book is certainly not the only way to build your thought leadership position, it is a very effective option. In this episode of Build a Better Agency, Michelle shares her process for becoming an authority by focusing on authorship and publishing as a means of bringing significant value to your audience. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: What being an authority looks like and how to get there How Michelle’s experience working for Zig Ziglar shaped her approach to building authority The power of putting yourself out there as the subject matter expert Why writing a book can help build your thought leadership and establish your position of authority Why you have to claim your authority no matter how many agencies do what you do How to leverage the power of authority Why backstory is so important in the digital age How to build your entire thought leadership platform off of a book How you can use your thought leadership platform to generate multiple revenue streams

Jul 6, 2020 • 1h 10min
EP 248: Moving towards racial equality in your agency with Jennifer Long
The Black Lives Matter movement has triggered a global conversation that has been a long time coming. Like other business owners, agency leaders are wrestling with the questions and concerns about racial equality in their agency and in our industry. How should our agencies respond internally and externally? The demand for conversations about racial equality is louder and more urgent now than it has ever been. Employment attorney and discrimination complaint investigator Jennifer Long has a scalable, business-centric response to moving towards racial equality that will help us create consequential and sustainable change. What can we do to take meaningful action? Should we be issuing an anti-racist statement? Or use our social media channels to post memes? How do we handle this well and respectfully while also not taking our eye off the ball and helping our agency recover from COVID and the economic downturn? It’s critical for agencies to have their house in order before they publicly bang their drum, and Jen can help us understand how that works from a business perspective. Her recent engagements have been focused on helping organizations expand their racial consciousness and messaging around this topic. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How agency leaders should respond to the need for racial equality How to provide your team with the right resources to educate themselves about racial equality How to improve your hiring practices and align them with racial equality Why implicit bias negatively influences the workplace How agency owners can put together a course of action that is meaningful but also enables them to continue operating profitably What you can do to take a stance on racial equality without being criticized as a hypocrite Examples of companies that are dealing with this issue successfully

Jun 29, 2020 • 57min
EP 247: Book your agency solid with Matthew Kimberley
There are very few agency owners who love biz dev. It’s time consuming, sometimes it feels like you are trying to target shoot in the dark, and you often end up settling for prospects that aren’t quite the right fit. But at least it’s a win! Your spidey senses are tingling and you know there’s trouble ahead but you ignore that little voice and forge ahead, hoping for the best. What if you could eliminate those near misses? I’m a firm believer that every agency should have a clear understanding of what their sweet spot client looks like and how to spot them in the crowd. Every client is right for some agency. But not every client is the right fit for yours. How do you know who your ideal client is? How do you attract them to you so you don’t have to hunt them down and how do you encourage them to give you that first dance? My guest will be a great beacon and help us gain clarity around all of those questions. I’ve known Matthew Kimberley for about 4-years and love his unique style and outlook on sales. He leads the business building system called Book Yourself Solid Worldwide, which is based on the bestselling book, Book Yourself Solid, written by Michael Port. Matthew is waving that flag all over the world and helping salespeople understand there is a proven way to literally book yourself solid. The beauty of the Book Yourself Solid system is that when you do it well, you never have to settle for a not quite right fit client again. Matthew is also the author of a great book entitled, “Get a F*cking Grip: How to Get Your Life Back on Track” and has an online course about writing delightful emails — which I thought was spectacular. He also hosts his own podcast entitled, “How to Get a Grip.” Matthew and I talk through the concept of Book Yourself Solid and how it pertains to agency owners. We talk through the questions that I know you would ask around sales, prospecting, and how we as agency owners and leaders can better use our day to drive sales into our agencies. Today (no matter when you’re listening to this) is the perfect time to get a better set of client filters in place so you protect and build your agency by filling your pipeline with those sweet spot clients. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How to create a set of criteria so you and your team can quickly filter out the wrong fit clients and spot the right ones. How to get more right-fit clients than your agency can handle even if selling isn’t your favorite thing to do. How to apply the “rule of three.” How to create new business opportunities around things you already enjoy doing. Why agency owners tend to do well at the top end of the sales funnel but then struggle when it comes time to drive sales into the agency. How to apply the three guiding principles within the Book Yourself Solid business development system. Why blending in “non-negotiable” criteria in your client filtering process will help protect your agency. Why you need a conscious process for developing trust at different points in time for different reasons with your clients and prospects. How you can develop a “Something to Invite People to Offer” so your prospects have an opportunity to get to know you and your agency better. How to apply the five things every agency owner should be doing every morning to fast-track biz dev.

Jun 22, 2020 • 59min
EP 246: How agencies are putting math behind marketing with Eric Vardon
Most agencies have yet to harness the power of data automation tools, and the numbers reveal a concerning reality. 60% of all agencies believe that they make at least 6 costly digital marketing mistakes on a client’s account every week. 33% of agencies have eaten between $5-$10,000 to fix a single campaign mistake. And it doesn’t get better with size. The number of mistakes nearly doubles when a digital agency scales from $1 million to $5 million in fees. And that’s not the most horrifying news that came out of a recent study conducted by Morphio. If there’s one thing most agencies have plenty of—it is data. If there’s one thing agencies struggle with—it’s data. That’s what intrigues me about data automation tools like Morphio. They define themselves as a check engine light for your digital campaigns. I invited founder (and agency owner) Eric Vardon onto the show to talk to us about this very real challenge. Out of his agency’s necessity, Eric’s team has been developing data automation tools baked with AI and machine learning. Eric’s products are helping agencies plug their leaks and become more profitable using data and automation, and he offers his tools at an affordable price point. In this episode of Build a Better Agency, Eric shares his journey as a tech entrepreneur and agency owner. He walks us through the lessons he’s learned about refining agency processes, improving team efficiency, and expanding the agency-client relationship using data automation tools. He breaks down the common mistakes agencies make in that arena and explains how we can improve our own systems and processes. Find out how Morphio is working with other small to mid-sized agencies to bring them invaluable AI and machine learning capabilities that don’t break the bank. A big thank you to our podcast’s presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They’re an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How data and reporting have shaped the way clients interact with agencies How Morphio’s data automation tools help agencies plug leaks in the bucket When and how Eric decided to offer his automation tool to other agencies How to leverage AI so you can focus on creativity and client strategy Why you need a check engine light for your agency’s performance and efficiency How you can use Morphio to make your agency more profitable How Morphio has changed reporting, and where it’s headed next Why data monitoring can help you make more informed decisions as an agency leader