Build a Better Agency Podcast

Drew McLellan
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Sep 20, 2021 • 45min

EP 311: Creating an "I'll be back" client experience with Shep Hyken

No one needs to tell you that it's easier and more cost-effective to keep existing clients rather than continuing to hunt and pitch for new ones. There's an obvious need to genuinely nurture these relationships, but oftentimes this advice is more theory than tangible. It's rare to find a clear game plan for creating lasting change that is simple, even if it's not always easy. This conversation sheds light on that challenge and how to solve it. Author and keynote speaker Shep Hyken is one of the world's most well-known and well-respected experts on client service. He is dedicated to helping companies create customer experiences that bring them back over and over again. He does so with insights and gusto intended to challenge how you approach your crew, clients, and customers. In this episode of Build a Better Agency, Shep and I discuss more than just the theories of creating good client relationships. In addition to talking about the need to create a sense of amazement and the downfall of settling for "fine," Shep outlines the specific, tangible steps that can be taken to create a culture that is focused on the customer experience and how to make sure your clients won't even consider looking anywhere else for what they need. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Why it's important to measure a client's likelihood to return How to create a sense of amazement with your customers and clients The problem with "fine" in client service The #1 culture-changing tool A 6-step process for creating a culture that is focused on the customer Precisely how to create an "I'll be back" experience
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Sep 13, 2021 • 30min

EP 310: 5 mistakes agency owners make when selling internally with Drew McLellan

Agency owners often grapple with significant challenges when planning an internal sale. Mistakes like gifting shares or lacking structured deals can jeopardize smooth transitions. Hiring external guidance emerges as a crucial strategy for success. Personal stories illustrate the importance of meticulous planning, addressing both operational and emotional elements. This insightful discussion also hints at an upcoming summit geared towards further supporting agency owners in their endeavors.
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Sep 6, 2021 • 1h 2min

EP 309: 5 key traits for a successful creative with Jamie Roberts

Creativity lives at the center of every agency, but finding, nurturing, and retaining the best fit creatives can feel like an impossible task. Someone with an impressive resume who interviews wonderfully can suddenly feel like a mismatch once they're actually in the role. It can feel like a guessing game, which is especially daunting for such an integral part of the team and your agency's success. Jamie Roberts has been a creative at agencies large and small. She grew up on the art side of the business and realized that all creatives are not wired the same. They might have similar skills but where they live on the spectrum of that skill defines their strengths and weaknesses. With this knowledge, she identified five key traits that can help agencies find creatives, or better understand the creatives they already have. In this episode of Build a Better Agency, Jamie and I explore the spectrum of these five key skills. We discuss how understanding them can simplify hiring decisions that lead to long-term success for both the agency and the new employee while also giving more insight into how to best leverage your existing creative staff. I even put Jamie's skills to the test with an off-the-cuff discussion on where she believes I fall on the spectrum of these five skills. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How to rethink the approach to creatives Understanding creative traits on a spectrum Responsive vs. deliberative adaptability Abstraction vs. analytical curiosity People vs. process agility Collaborative vs. independent confidence Broad vs. deep commitment
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Aug 30, 2021 • 50min

EP 308: Guide your business using the CEO's compass with Deborah Coviello

All agency owners strive to be great leaders but that can be a daunting task when there are so many things that demand attention on a daily basis. And understanding what defines a great leader and how to learn and implement those skills can be equally overwhelming. When it feels like the focus needs to be external on building the company and growing client relationships, time dedicated internally to processes and staff development is often rushed, minimized, or pushed to another day. Author Deborah Coviello has studied what it takes for a CEO to elevate not only their companies but also their people for long-lasting impact. Defining an agency's "True North" creates the guiding star to ensure the entire team is moving in the same direction. She also believes a focus on people development sets the foundation for the greatest success. In this episode of Build a Better Agency, Deborah and I look at various elements that create a great CEO. We talk about the need for clear processes that have the future in mind, the importance of prioritizing proactive internal growth, and how any team member can be a high performer if you have the right conversation with them. We also discuss the insights an agency owner can gain by taking time away and why mentors and coaches may hold the key to a CEO's success. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: The elements that make up a "CEO's Compass" How a company benefits from defining their "True North" Why the right processes are critical to success The need to rethink leadership to prioritize doing something proactive to grow your company internally What are we doing that's right and wrong for growing our emerging leaders How to improve the way we give feedback The importance of finding a coach The insights gained from three words: continue, start, and change
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Aug 23, 2021 • 37min

EP 307: Are you a wonderbread factory or an artisanal bakery revisited with Drew McLellan

As we continue the push into a post-pandemic world, many agencies are taking a hard look at how they approach business and what they want this new future to look like. Many are implementing long-term changes inspired by what the last 18+ months has taught them. Others have been inspired to make changes toward a more focused vision. Success with these changes starts with becoming crystal clear on what kind of agency you want to be. In over 300 podcasts, I have never repeated or reposted an episode. Until now. Episode #100 entitled "Are You A Wonderbread Factory or An Artisanal Bakery?" is probably the single most common episode people mention when they bring up past episodes. The response has been so positive and consistent that it felt like a perfect episode to revisit as a guiding light toward defining your agency's next chapter. In this solocast, I discuss the spectrum of how agencies can do business, from the creative-driven, custom-designed artisan way to the numbers-driven, one-size-fits-all factory approach. There are pros and cons of both sides, and many agencies live somewhere in the middle of the spectrum. But having agency clarity about where you are and where you want to be is the surest way to ensure the kind of success you are striving for. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Why this topic seems more relevant today than when originally recorded How agency focus sets up agency success Defining the two ends of the spectrum of how agencies can approach business The pros and cons of running a wonderbread style agency or an artisanal bakery How to approach shifting your agency's focus
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Aug 16, 2021 • 54min

EP 306: How military lessons translate to agency leadership with Ryan Carey

An agency's success or failure is reliant upon the owner's leadership skills to a certain extent. There are many elements that ultimately create an agency's legacy, but the strength of the leadership is one of the cornerstones that holds it all together. Most teams are built with people who have come up and through the agency world, so by the time they step into a leadership role, there's a risk that they're doing it the way everyone else has done it. If you want to have a next-level agency, it might be worth the effort to reexamine and sharpen your leadership approach. Ryan Carey is a ranger-qualified army vet who now heads up White Label IQ, our presenting sponsor here at the podcast. His background and experience have given him unique insights into leadership that allow him to come at agency life with an inspiring perspective. In this episode of Build a Better Agency, Ryan and I explore military-inspired leadership and how it can benefit agencies. These worlds might seem vastly different but they both share a need for clarity, communication, trust, respectful disagreements, and unflappable dedication to the team. We talk about all of these things, sprinkled with Ryan's true-life stories from the front lines, with the hope of challenging and improving how you think about leadership. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: The need to ensure clarity on a client's definition of success Tips for avoiding micromanaging your leadership The need for clear processes Why it's important to not get complacent, even when succeeding Absolute vs Participatory Leadership How to respectfully disagree The importance of trust Challenges of splitting-focus Military experience that benefits agency success "As you continue to develop a project with a client, you've got to continue to ensure it's aligning with where they're wanting to go because they're learning too in the whole process." - Ryan CareyCLICK TO TWEET"In leadership, it's easy to get into a micromanaging scenario, especially when it's client-facing." - Ryan CareyCLICK TO TWEET"I think it's very easy to become a line item on an expense report and not a benefit to the company." - Ryan CareyCLICK TO TWEET"The more that you build trust with people, the more that they're going to be able to say something when it matters." - Ryan CareyCLICK TO TWEET"People can do amazing things and when you give them leeway and trust, they can take that very far." - Ryan CareyCLICK TO TWEET Ways to contact Ryan Carey: Special offer: Get 10 Hours FREE on Development of any kind at www.whitelabeliq.com/ami Websites: https://www.whitelabeliq.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-carey-wl/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WhiteLabelIQ/ Email: ryanc@whitelabeliq.com Additional Resources: AE Bootcamp — September 14 & 15 in Chicago, IL Sell with Authority (buy Drew's book) Facebook Group for the Build a Better Agency Podcast My Future Self Mini-Course
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Aug 9, 2021 • 38min

EP 305: The t-shirt philosophy episode with Drew McLellan

Whenever I fly, I wear a t-shirt that says "Be Good To People." It's a simple message that I sincerely believe in but the response to the shirt, especially during the pandemic, has been something I wasn't expecting. It has inspired people to quite literally reach out and touch me with a pat of gratitude for the reminder. We are overwhelmed, exhausted, confused, and scared, all things that can bring out the worst in people, so a reminder that kindness exists, is possible, and can feel almost revolutionary. The generous response to my previous solocast about anxiety has inspired me to take a closer look at the message literally stamped on my chest, in hopes of finding ways to expand on self-care in a way that more fully benefits our teams and clients. In this solocast, I'm talking about the various ways we can be good to ourselves, our team, and the clients we serve. We've all been in survival mode and now it's time to remember who and what we were surviving for. This is about relationship care. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Recognizing the ongoing challenges created by the pandemic A call to take better care of yourself A reminder to reconnect with the people that inspire you The need to think about your team The power of learning opportunities Tips for enhancing client relationships Relationship care as a holistic approach
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Aug 2, 2021 • 1h 7min

EP 304: The ROI of DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) with Nikki McCord

There's no denying that the call for diversity, equity, and inclusion has never been louder. In the middle of it all, agencies are trying to embrace change internally at the same time they are guiding clients on how to incorporate genuine representation, making us students and guides at the same time. It can be uncomfortable, awkward, and overwhelming, especially to dominant communities who have no real-world experience with marginalization. Nikki McCord turned her political science degree into a career dedicated to influencing change and policy. When she started her own consulting firm eight years ago, she chose to focus on three things: strategic facilitation, board governance, and DEI (diversity, equity, and inclusion). She does so from the crossroads of compassion and urgency. In this episode of Build a Better Agency, Nikki and I dive into all the difficult topics, starting with why she didn't want to do this podcast. We talk about the ways agencies get stuck when trying to diversify, the costs and ROI of DEI, how to handle the necessary discomfort of open conversations, and the roles we all need to play in order to create a better world for everyone. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: Where we get stuck in the pursuit of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) The costs associated with DEI How to handle the discomfort of diversity discussions The ROI of DEI The need for dominant communities to be a voice for change What to be thinking about in the quest for a diverse agency The importance of management buy-in for DEI How to begin a DEI integration
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Jul 26, 2021 • 50min

EP 303: All things taxes with Craig Cody

Creating a solid tax strategy for your agency might not seem like the most exciting thing to think about but doing so has the potential to put a lot more money directly into your pocket. It can be daunting to try and understand all of the options available, especially when a lot of the COVID-related aid adds to the confusion, so having a solid tax advisor in your corner is more important than ever. But how can you make sure you're getting the guidance you need if you don't even know what questions to ask? Craig Cody is a tax strategist and planner who has helped many AMI members better manage their money. His insights and guidance are hugely beneficial to any agency owner wanting to save money while also leveraging income and assets for personal and professional goals. In this episode of Build a Better Agency, Craig and I discuss all things taxes. We look at COVID-related strategies that are still available. We explore surprising deductions to be found by better leveraging your home and how to get the most out of your relationship with your tax advisor, all with the goal of setting up you and your agency for the best possible financial success. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: COVID-related tax strategies that are still available Understanding The Augusta Rule How putting in a home pool can be tax-deductible Knowing the difference between a tax strategist and a tax preparer What to expect tax advisor conversations to look like The Defined Benefits Program Common missed opportunities in tax preparation Questions to ask a new tax advisor
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Jul 19, 2021 • 49min

EP 302: Account services best practices with Taylor McMaster

We all know how critical account service people are to the success of our agencies. It's a tough job. Account service people must balance the needs of the agency, the internal team, and of course, the clients. A rock-solid account service person can help you retain and upsell clients, delivering a higher percentage of profitability on both counts. Creating a strong and dependable account services team and process is key to your success. Taylor McMaster is a former agency owner who discovered what she loved most about the work was the account services side of it. This realization inspired her to start a company that outsources account service people to agencies with the goal of improving agency-client relationships and allowing agency owners to step back from the day-to-day so they can concentrate on scaling their business. In this episode of Build a Better Agency, Taylor and I look at several different elements to building successful account services. We discuss how to onboard new clients, ways to ensure you're hiring the right account services people, and making the most of client relationships by understanding what they want and need from your agency. Strengthening your approach to account services gives you as the agency owner the freedom to put your focus on building your business. A big thank you to our podcast's presenting sponsor, White Label IQ. They're an amazing resource for agencies who want to outsource their design, dev, or PPC work at wholesale prices. Check out their special offer (10 free hours!) for podcast listeners here. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How to onboard a new client Why agency owners aren't always great at client services How to hire strong account service people Keeping the relationship fresh with long-term clients What clients want from your client services How to merchandise a client relationship What agencies get wrong in client services

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