After years in prison, Kelly is finally free. But what about those on the other side of the table? Does it matter whether or not Kelly is innocent, if they believe she isn’t? Experts weigh in on the role memory plays in cases like Kelly’s, and what the Satanic panic can teach us about the moral panics of today.  Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. To connect with Infamous's creative team, plus access behind the scenes content, join the community at Campsidemedia.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Not long ago, Kelly Michaels was a daycare worker and aspiring actor; now, she’s locked in a prison cell, in solitary confinement, struggling to hold on to her sanity. Meanwhile, some journalists and activists are beginning to see a pattern in all the bizarre allegations against daycare workers around the country — and they take an interest in Kelly’s case. Something smells fishy, and they soon help Kelly in her plight to prove her innocence. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. To connect with Infamous's creative team, plus access behind the scenes content, join the community at Campsidemedia.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Advances in developmental psychology dispel the popular belief that children should be seen and not heard. And as news reports surface of danger, parents are anxious to hear what their kids have to say. When a child from Wee Care Nursery School mentions something suspicious about his former teacher, Kelly, the authorities leap into action. Accusations multiply, and suddenly, parents aren’t just listening to their children; they might unwittingly be telling them what to say. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. To connect with Infamous's creative team, plus access behind the scenes content, join the community at Campsidemedia.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For Kelly Michaels, all of history is a Tolkien-like battle between a small number of heroes and villains. Most of us are hobbits — the in-between folks, just trying to get by. Kelly, who makes a modest living at Wee Care Nursery School in Maplewood, New Jersey, considers herself an ordinary hobbit. That is, until she — like Frodo — gets swept up in a battle, as panic sweeps the nation over a surge in Satanism. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. To connect with Infamous's creative team, plus access behind the scenes content, join the community at Campsidemedia.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How did a shy teenager from North Carolina become one of the biggest YouTubers in the world, making more than 80 million dollars a year? In this episode, Vanessa talks to Proof News founder Julia Angwin, plus MrBeast expert, her eight-year-old son, to discuss MrBeast’s superfame and the new genre he pioneered: philanthropy as entertainment. Read more about Julia's new venture and how she is remaking news on YouTube, at proofnews.org. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. To connect with Infamous's creative team, plus access behind the scenes content, join the community at Campsidemedia.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

From wage discrimination to dangerous weight loss methods to personal safety concerns, the scandals that have rocked the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders over the past half century touch on almost every issue in contemporary feminist discourse.  This week, Vanessa and Natalie talk to Sarah Hepola, creator of the Texas Monthly podcast America’s Girls and author of Blackout: Remembering the Things I Drank to Forget. Sarah looks back at the history of the beloved cheerleading team, the complicated place they hold in our culture, and what those cheerleaders meant to her as a young girl growing up in Texas. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. To connect with Infamous's creative team, plus access behind the scenes content, join the community at Campsidemedia.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

After a multi-year hiatus, the Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show has returned, but it’s nothing like it used to be. Natalie attended the show in 2015 with celebs like Kris Jenner and Selena Gomez, but a lot has happened to the brand since then, including the bombshell revelation about the owner Les Wexner’s ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Vanessa reunites with Fallen Angel co-creator Justine Harman to tell the shocking story of the world’s most infamous lingerie brand. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Find out more about Campside Media, follow us @campside_media or join our community at campsidemedia.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Earlier this year, a door fell blew off of a Boeing 737 Max mid-flight, and there's now a massive investigation into Boeing, one of the largest producers of airplanes in the world. This wasn’t the first time a Boeing plane malfunctioned during a flight – in fact, it turns out the company has been nosediving for years. Aviation writer Jeff Wise tells us what happened at Boeing, what’s being done about it, and if it’s safe to fly. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. To connect with Infamous's creative team, plus access behind the scenes content, join the community at Campsidemedia.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Ruby and Jodi are both serving their prison sentences, but was this tragic story a microcosm of a larger problem? Vanessa and Natalie listen back to some new jail tapes and other audio recordings and discuss the difficult question of who is ultimately responsible for what happened — and what it will take to protect children online in the future. Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. To connect with Infamous's creative team, plus access behind the scenes content, join the community at Campsidemedia.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode is free on 7/11. After they are arrested for harming Ruby's children, Ruby and Jodi head to court to fight the charges against them. Ruby seemingly has another revelation, one that leads her to turn on Jodi. But who is really to blame for all the abuse? Click ‘Subscribe’ at the top of the Infamous show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices A Campside Media & Sony Music Entertainment production. To connect with Infamous's creative team, plus access behind the scenes content, join the community at Campsidemedia.com/join Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices