
Kibbe on Liberty
Kibbe on Liberty is a weekly podcast with libertarian author and economist, Matt Kibbe. Kibbe believes that honest conversations, driven by intellectual curiosity and mutual respect, can ignite a new revolution of free thinking and a willingness to question the official narrative. That means talking, and listening, to a wide variety of people outside the echo chamber of officially sanctioned experts. Kibbe on Liberty's guests include politicians, economists, musicians, comedians, writers, radio personalities, activists, journalists, and even magicians—with topics of conversation ranging from current affairs to obscure philosophy, from craft beer to the Grateful Dead. Cold one in hand, settle in for the next brain-stimulating hour of Kibbe on Liberty.As the president of Free the People, Kibbe has decades of experience in the libertarian political sphere. He is the author of three books, including Don’t Hurt People and Don’t Take Their Stuff, a #2 NY Times Best Seller. Kibbe is a fanatical DeadHead, drinker of great whisky, and collector of obscure books on Austrian economics.
Latest episodes

Apr 16, 2025 • 34min
Ep 328 | When ‘Fringe’ Ideas Trump the Expert Class | Guest: Matt Kibbe
In a recent debate on “The Joe Rogan Experience,” Douglas Murray chastised the host for platforming non-experts he claims are spreading dangerous misinformation. Matt Kibbe points out that not only has the expert class completely failed to earn the trust of the American people but that the democratization of knowledge is one of the best things about the internet and podcasting in general. The process of challenging established dogma is what leads to greater dialogue and the free exchange of ideas. This is not unlike the theories of the Austrian school of economics, which prioritizes the importance of individual action over mindless deference to so-called experts, who claim to know what’s best for everyone else.

Apr 9, 2025 • 54min
Ep 327 | Lower Tariffs Will Put America First | Guest: Antony Davies
As the Trump Administration appears to double down on protectionist trade policies, many critics have taken a sneering, condescending attitude toward those who think that tariffs might just make America great again. Matt Kibbe sits down with economist Antony Davies to try to address these concerns with empathy and understanding, while at the same time demonstrating that high tariffs actually hurt American workers by making everything more expensive. There are good reasons to be dissatisfied with the state of America’s economy, but raising taxes on consumers will only make things worse.

Apr 2, 2025 • 30min
Ep 326 | Meet the ‘Fringe Epidemiologist’ Running the NIH | Guest: Jay Bhattacharya
To celebrate the confirmation of Jay Bhattacharya as director of the NIH, this week’s “Kibbe on Liberty” features unseen footage from Matt Kibbe’s series “The Coverup,” in which Dr. Bhattacharya explains how he was demonized and attacked for his opposition to COVID lockdowns, as well as some greatest hits from Jay’s previous appearances on the show.

Mar 26, 2025 • 56min
Ep 325 | We Have to Change Ourselves if We Want to Change the World | Guest: Ricardo Salinas
At the Mont Pelerin Society meeting in Mexico City, Matt Kibbe caught up with the tremendously successful entrepreneur Ricardo Salinas to talk about the battle for hearts and minds being waged between the collectivists and individualists who believe in personal freedom and responsibility. Salinas explains how he is using his business empire to expand opportunities for the Mexican people, particularly in offering educational alternatives to the state-run schools. They also talk about the dangers of central banking and the potential for Bitcoin to do an end run around government control of currency.

Mar 19, 2025 • 57min
Ep 324 | Are Republicans Serious About Budget Cuts? | Guest: Nick Freitas
Following the recent dust-up over the continuing resolution that maintained Biden-era levels of spending, it’s fair to ask whether the Trump administration is serious about cutting spending, reducing the national debt, and balancing the budget. The Department of Government Efficiency has identified hundreds of billions of dollars in wasteful spending, but Congress still has to act in order to actually make those cuts. Matt Kibbe is joined by Virginia state Delegate Nick Freitas (R) to talk about the Trump administration’s diverse coalition and whether it can hold together long enough to enact Trump’s agenda.

Mar 12, 2025 • 26min
Ep 323 | You’re Mad at Thomas Massie Because He’s Right | Guest: Matt Kibbe
In this special solo episode of “Kibbe on Liberty,” Matt Kibbe weighs in on Donald Trump’s threat to primary Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) over his refusal to vote for the latest continuing resolution that maintains Biden-era levels of spending and funds all of the waste, fraud, and abuse that Elon Musk and the DOGE have uncovered. Kibbe recounts his time as a budget economist and explains why the budgeting process doesn’t work as it’s supposed to and how entrenched special interests are committed to keeping it that way. Massie is one of the few congressmen who understands that and who is willing to fight for the America First spending cuts that Trump campaigned on. He’s absolutely the wrong target for the president’s ire.

Mar 5, 2025 • 57min
Ep 322 | Everyone Is Wrong About the New Deal | Guest: George Selgin
George Selgin, a leading economist at the Cato Institute and author of "False Dawn," delves into the complexities of the New Deal. He challenges the binary views of Roosevelt as either savior or villain, arguing that misconceptions cloud its economic impact. The discussion highlights the New Deal's non-Keynesian nature and its lagging recovery effects due to hostility toward private industry. Selgin also connects historical monetary theories to modern concepts like Bitcoin, exploring alternatives to traditional banking systems.

Feb 26, 2025 • 55min
Ep 321 | New Hampshire Is the Libertarian Laboratory of Democracy | Guest: Eric Brakey
One of the benefits of America’s federalist system is that individual states can experiment with different policies, allowing the rest of the country to see what works and what doesn’t. New Hampshire has taken that idea and run with it, attempting to gather as many libertarians as possible in one place to create the freest state in the country. Matt Kibbe sits down with Eric Brakey, executive director of the Free State Project, to discuss why this effort is so important, how effective it has been, and why every libertarian, regardless of where they live, should be invested in what happens in New Hampshire, as it reflects the health of the movement and the prospects for expanding freedom in our lifetime.

Feb 19, 2025 • 1h 25min
Ep 320 | Trump Is Disrupting Everything, and Maybe That's Good | Guest: John Papola
The first month of the new Trump administration has been a whirlwind of activity, some good and some not so good. The chaos is causing large-scale freak-outs among the legacy media and Washington insiders, who don't know how to deal with this level of disruption. Matt Kibbe sits down with John Papola, founder and CEO of Emergent Order Foundation, to discuss the potential good that can come out of shaking the establishment out of its comfort zone. With Trump's trans-partisan coalition of antiauthoritarian voices, including former left-wing figures like RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard, the administration is in a position to effect change in a way the swamp has never seen before.

Feb 12, 2025 • 58min
Ep 319 | The Department of Education Is on the Chopping Block with Good Reason | Guest: Glenn Jacobs
As Donald Trump and his Department of Government Efficiency ramp up their efforts to dismantle the federal Department of Education, its defenders are screaming that returning education to the states will destroy schooling in this country. Matt Kibbe is joined by pro wrestler and Knox County, Tennessee, Mayor Glenn Jacobs to debunk these nonsensical claims. From their shared love of the band Rush and the Austrian school of economics, Kibbe and Jacobs discuss the common-sense notions that underlie good economic and political thinking: the power of the individual, the virtue of not wasting taxpayer money on ineffective and corrupt programs, and the desperate need for reform in Washington's broken system. The only people who can oppose such obvious wisdom are the ones who have a financial stake in perpetuating institutions that serve legislators and bureaucrats rather than the people themselves.
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