
Have You Heard
Occasionally funny and periodically informative, Have You Heard features journalist Jennifer Berkshire and scholar Jack Schneider as they explore the age-old quest to finally fix the nation's public schools, one policy issue at a time.
Latest episodes

Nov 20, 2017 • 31min
#30 Teaching Controversy is Controversial (And It Always Has Been)
When questions produce quarrels, it can be easy to blame our current state of politics. But coping with contention is a learned skill—a skill that our schools have been actively avoiding for over a century. In this episode, we talk with historian Jon Zimmerman about the teaching of controversial issues: past, present, and future.

Nov 8, 2017 • 28min
#29: What We Talk About When We Talk About the Corporate Education Agenda
"Corporate education agenda" gets thrown around a lot - but what does it actually mean? Have You Heard talks to economist Gordon Lafer, who tracked the state-level legislation backed by the corporate lobbies, including the Chamber of Commerce and the American Legislative Exchange Council, in the wake of the Great Recession. Lafer paints a disturbing picture of the corporate vision for education, an agenda that remains deeply unpopular with voters. Perhaps the bleakest episode of Have You Heard so far!

Oct 25, 2017 • 26min
#28: How Closing Schools Undermines Democracy
Chicago shuttered some 50 schools in 2013. Since then, voter turnout and support for Democrats in the affected neighborhoods has plunged. What's the connection? Have You Heard talks to political scientist Sally Nuamah about the political fallout from the school closures--and what the debate about closing schools as a means of raising student achievement is missing.

Oct 11, 2017 • 29min
#27 School Reform TV: The "New" Philanthropists of Public Education
Have You Heard listens in on the recent XQ Superschools extravaganza, the latest big money effort to "rethink" public education. We're joined by Megan Tompkins Stange, author of Policy Patrons: Philanthropy, Education Reform, and the Politics of Influence, who helps us see the world through the eyes of a billionaire school reformer

Sep 27, 2017 • 35min
#26 Divided by Design: Race, Neighborhoods, Wealth and Schools
The claim that "your zip code shouldn't determine your education" is made by education experts of every stripe. And yet as Have You Heard guest Richard Rothstein, author of the Color of Law, explains here, our racially segregated zip codes were created by design, the result of federal housing policy. The legacy of those policies today is not just segregated schools but a stark racial wealth gap. And the solution to the problem isn't choosing schools, argues Rothstein, but integrating neighborhoods.

Sep 12, 2017 • 33min
#25 Big Philanthropy, Small Change: Inside the Gates Foundation's Small Schools Experiment
Bill Gates spent a fortune to remake high schools across the country into small learning communities. Michael Hobbes' Seattle alma mater was one of these, and he takes us deep into the story of his school. As Hobbes recounts, what happened at Hale High, and Gates' efforts to supersize the small schools experiment, is also a story of what education reform gets wrong - and why reformers make the same mistakes again and again.

Aug 29, 2017 • 26min
#24 Schools Can't Fix Poverty (So Why do We Keep Insisting They Can?)
Have You Heard talks to historian Harvey Kantor about how education came to be seen as THE fix for poverty. Hint: it all starts in the 1960’s with the advent of the Great Society programs. Fast forward to the present and our belief that education can reduce poverty and narrow the nation’s yawning inequality chasm is stronger than ever. And yet education, argues Kantor, is actually exacerbating income inequality.

Aug 14, 2017 • 28min
#23: The Mismeasure of Schools: Data, Real Estate and Segregation
In this episode, Jennifer Berkshire and Jack Schneider discuss how test scores and other current metrics distort our picture of school quality, often fostering segregation in the process. What would a better set of measures include? Our intrepid hosts venture inside an urban elementary school to find out.

Jul 31, 2017 • 25min
#22: The Long Crusade Against Public Schools: A Conversation with Nancy MacLean
Jennifer Berkshire talks to Nancy MacLean, author of the best selling Democracy in Chains, about the Right's long crusade against what they call "government schools."

Jul 11, 2017 • 20min
#21: 'I Quit' - Teachers Are Leaving and They Want to Tell You Why
In this episode of Have You Heard, we hear from teachers who left their jobs - and wanted to tell the world why. They left "kicking and screaming" as Oklahoma Teacher of the Year Shawn Sheehan explains. These very public resignations are a form of activism, a way for teachers to articulate how and why teaching needs to change.