
Have You Heard
Occasionally funny and periodically informative, Have You Heard features journalist Jennifer Berkshire and scholar Jack Schneider as they explore the age-old quest to finally fix the nation's public schools, one policy issue at a time.
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Oct 29, 2020 • 36min
#100 A Wolf at the Schoolhouse Door
Our book, A Wolf at the Schoolhouse Door, is finally (almost) out. To celebrate its publication, and the 100th episode of Have You Heard, we asked an expert—a former lobbyist for a conservative free-market think tank—to read the book and tell us what we got right & wrong. His main takeaway: our predictions about the future aren't bleak enough.
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Oct 15, 2020 • 31min
#99 There’s No Democracy without Public Education
Have You Heard talks with legal scholar Derek Black about his new book Schoolhouse Burning: Public Education and the Assault on American Democracy. Despite the title (not to mention the charred pencil imagery) Black’s story of the centrality of public education to the country’s founding and its post-civil war recovery is inspiring and hopeful. Public education, argues Black, is as central to American democracy as the right to vote.
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Jennifer and Jack’s forthcoming book, A Wolf at the Schoolhouse Door, will be out on November 17 and is now available for pre-order wherever you buy books.

Oct 1, 2020 • 35min
#98: The Rich and the Rest
There is a vast gulf between the public education priorities of most voters and the favored policies of the very wealthy. Nowhere is that gap more visible than in Arizona, where support for public education has emerged as a central issue in 2020.
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Jennifer and Jack’s forthcoming book, A Wolf at the Schoolhouse Door, will be out on November 17 and is now available for pre-order: https://www.wolfattheschoolhousedoor.com

Sep 17, 2020 • 37min
#97 How Centrist Democrats Paved the Way for Betsy DeVos
A consensus between Republicans and centrist Democrats around charter schools has been at the very center of education policy for the past three decades. Guest David Menefee-Libey joins us to talk about the formation of the charter school “treaty,” why it unraveled and what happens next.
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Jennifer and Jack’s forthcoming book A Wolf at the Schoolhouse Door: The Dismantling of Public Education and the Future of School, is now available for preorder. https://bookshop.org/books/a-wolf-at-the-schoolhouse-door-the-dismantling-of-public-education-and-the-future-of-school/9781620974940

Sep 3, 2020 • 35min
#96 Mind the Gap: Why It’s Time to Stop Talking about the Achievement Gap
The achievement gap has driven education reform for the past twenty years. Guest David Stevens says it’s time to stop talking about the achievement gap and focus instead on the “headwinds” and “tailwinds” that hold some students back while pushing others along. With the pandemic exacerbating the inequality between students, Stevens’ alternative approach, what he calls the Academic Support Index, has never been more relevant. You’ll be inspired and encouraged, and you’ll understand exactly why Stevens is the winner of the 2020 Have You Heard Graduate Student Research Contest.
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Jennifer and Jack’s forthcoming book A Wolf at the Schoolhouse Door: The Dismantling of Public Education and the Future of School, is now available for preorder. https://bookshop.org/books/a-wolf-at-the-schoolhouse-door-the-dismantling-of-public-education-and-the-future-of-school/9781620974940

Aug 20, 2020 • 32min
#95 Contract Talk: New Research on Teachers Unions
Teachers unions are the biggest impediments to fixing schools and improving student achievement. That mantra has been at the heart of school reform efforts for more than a decade - but is it true? Education researchers Adam Kirk Edgerton and Mimi Lyon both started their teaching careers at a time of peak hostility to unions. (Remember Waiting for Superman?) When they left the classroom to go back to school, both were intent on researching unionization in order to better understand its impact—on teachers, students, and on progressive policies in states where unionization has been hindered. Oh, and did we mention that Adam and Mimi are the runners up in the 2020 Have You Heard Graduate Student Research Contest?
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Aug 6, 2020 • 45min
#94 Pandemic Pods: Parents, Privilege, Power and Politics
Private pandemic “pods” are the latest edu-craze to sweep the land. But turns out there’s nothing new about privileged parents fleeing the public school system—or using the threat of departure as leverage. Special guests Jessica Calarco, L’Heureux Lewis-McCoy and Jon Hale help us understand the implications of pods for public education.
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Jul 23, 2020 • 49min
#93: Making the Grade
When the pandemic shuttered schools, it also put grades on hold. But suspending A-F grading also exposed the underlying flaws of a high-stakes system. Historian Ethan Hutt joins us to discuss the origins and often conflicting purposes of grading, and some possible fixes.
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Recommended reading:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/opinion/coronavirus-school-grades.html

Jul 9, 2020 • 44min
#92: Is it Time to Cancel Teach Like a Champion?
Teach Like a Champion, the best-selling guide to effective teaching by Doug Lemov, has sold millions of copies. But is it racist? Have You Heard hears from teachers and researchers who argue that Lemov’s approach embodies “carceral” pedagogy. And because we have a thing about education history, we trace the concept all the way back to 1895. Special guests: Ilana Horn, Joe Truss and Layla Treuhaft-Ali.
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Recommended reading: “Teach Like it’s 1895,” by Layla Treuhaft-Ali: https://haveyouheardblog.com/teach-like-its-1895/

Jun 18, 2020 • 35min
#91 Arrested Development: How Police Ended Up in Schools
How exactly did cops end up in US schools in the first place? Our quest for answers takes us to three cities—Boston, Los Angeles and Chicago—and back 60 years to another era wracked by mass social protest: the 1960’s. Special guests: Matt Kautz, Judith Kafka and Louis Mercer.
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