

VS
Poetry Foundation
The VS podcast is a bi-weekly series where poets confront the ideas that move them. Hosted by poets Ajanaé Dawkins and Brittany Rogers, produced by Cin Pim/Ombie Productions, and presented by the Poetry Foundation.
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Nov 11, 2025 • 1h 7min
Khadijah Queen vs. Intuition
Today on VS, Brittany and Ajanae interview Khadijah Queen. Listen in as they discuss their love for their hometowns, approaching non-linear form across genres, navigating projects with long life spans, the importance of leaning into intuition and curiosity, and revisiting past projects and eras in our writing.Until Next Time:Here is some media to accompany your experience of the episode and a writing prompt to tide you over until we meet again!Fernando Pessoa - Fernando Pessoa & His HeteronymsLucille Clifton - Lucille Clifton talks of her books of poems, including “Good Times”Toni Morrison - Toni Morrison: The Life of a Literary Giant | The Dig at Howard UniversityWriting PromptRevisit some of your oldest poems. Write an ode to that era of your life—that version of yourself. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Oct 28, 2025 • 1h 16min
Rachel Eliza Griffiths vs. Privacy
On today’s episode of VS, Brittany and Ajanae interview Rachel Eliza Griffiths; join them as they discuss forthcoming projects, their evolving concepts of home and privacy, approaching photography as a poet, writing for the ones that come after us, and the importance of curiosity.Until Next Time: John Coltrane - A Deep Dive into John Coltrane’s ‘A Love Supreme’ by His Biographer, Lewis Porter (Pt. 1) | WBGO JazzToni Morrison - Toni Morrison’s Recipe for Love, Life, and the Perfect Boiled EggJoan Mitchell - Four Decades of the Abstract Impressionist Joan Mitchell | Expert Voices | Sotheby’sJames Baldwin - James Baldwin at 100Writing PromptWrite a manifesto of commitments for the politics of loving and protecting yourself. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Oct 14, 2025 • 1h 11min
VS Live! at Poetry Foundation: Cornelius Eady and Major Jackson vs. Legacy
Join acclaimed poets Major Jackson and Cornelius Eady as they delve into the capacity to feel and the legacies that shape their work. Jackson reflects on the inspirations that currently move him, while Eady discusses the importance of community in sustaining artists. They explore how fear fuels authenticity in poetry and share insights on writing about others with care. The conversation weaves through their personal histories and influences, creating a rich tapestry of poetic experience and reflection.

Sep 30, 2025 • 1h 2min
Jada Renée Allen vs. Drill
On today’s episode of VS, Brittany and Ajanae interviewed Jada Renée Allen. Listen in as they discuss their rabbit holes of research, “Drill” the manuscript and the music, the relationship between Black women and water, and the influences on our poetics. Until Next Time: Here is some media to accompany your experience of the episode and a writing prompt to tide you over until we meet again!Alexus Rhone - Playwright Alexus Rhone on Taking God's Call and Taking Your MedsPatricia Smith - Dear Poet 2024: Patricia Smith Reads “When the Burning Begins”Rita Dove - Rita Dove for Fulbright World Poetry Day 2021Writing Prompt: Write an ode in gratitude for an artist or character who shifted the way you see yourself. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Sep 3, 2025 • 59min
Saúl Hernández vs. Monsters
Today Brittany and Ajanae have the pleasure of talking with Saúl Hernández. Listen in as they discuss writing about tense familial relationships with tenderness, the act of being made invisible, grief as transformation, childhood as a lens, and how to identify a monster (spoiler alert: it could be anyone!). Until Next Time: Walter Mercado - Mucho Mucho Amor: The Legend of Walter Mercado | Official Trailer | NetflixEthel Cain - The Intricate Storytelling of Ethel Cain’s “Preacher’s Daughter” – The Junction Journal Toni Morrison - Toni Morrison | National Endowment for the Arts Writing Prompt: Write a poem that functions as a dream. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 19, 2025 • 1h 4min
Barbara Fant vs. Joy
On today’s episode of VS, Ajanae and Brittany interview Barbara Fant. Join them as they discuss the relationship between family and authenticity, the importance of intergenerational connections among poets, writing as a tool for wellness, and joy as a part of chaos. Until Next Time: Here is some media to accompany your experience of the episode and a writing prompt to tide you over until we meet again!Sunni Patterson - Sunni Patterson - Letter from the PorchMahalia Jackson - Mahalia Jackson: Gospel Takes Flight | National Museum of African American History and Culture Bone Thugs-n-Harmony - What Happened To '90s Hip Hop Group Bone Thugs-N-Harmony?Writing Prompt:Consider the last moment of chaos you found yourself in. Write an ode to a person or object that brought you joy in that moment. Consider the chaos to be the negative space around the joy, giving it shape. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Aug 5, 2025 • 55min
W.J. Lofton vs. Grief
On today’s episode of VS, Ajanae and Brittany interview W.J. Lofton. Join them as they discuss how they handle failure within their process, grief as a form of generosity, queer intimacy, spiritual expansion, and the process of unlearning harmful beliefs.Until Next Time: Here is some media to accompany your experience of the episode and a writing prompt to tide you over until we meet again!Danez Smith- 5 things I wish I'd known before I started writing {with Danez Smith}Kiese Laymon- Rice’s Kiese Laymon awarded ‘genius grant’ MacArthur FellowshipToni Morrison- From 2004: Toni Morrison on a writer's lifeImani Perry- Imani Perry: Letter from Home — THE BITTER SOUTHERNERWriting Prompt:Considering the relationship between the elegy and ode, write a poem that explores what grief has gifted you. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Jul 22, 2025 • 1h 6min
Hanif Abdurraqib vs. Obsession
Hanif Abdurraqib, an award-winning poet and cultural critic, dives deep into themes of obsession and personal history. He reminisces about the nostalgic charm of mixtapes and the legacy of his grandmother’s music curation. The conversation explores the emotional toll of creativity and the balance between artistic expression and well-being. Abdurraqib emphasizes the significance of authenticity in writing and the role of family storytelling in shaping identity. He redefines obsession as crucial to the creative process, enriching the narrative journey.

Jul 8, 2025 • 1h 9min
m. mick powell vs. Celebrity Culture
On today’s episode of VS, Ajanae and Brittany interview m. mick powell about their forthcoming collection, Dead Girl Cameo (Penguin Random House). Join them as they discuss celebrity culture and conspiracy theories, obsession with the 90’s and 2000’s, Black queer feminist thought, and gathering artifacts across time periods. Until Next Time: Here is some media to accompany your experience of the episode and a writing prompt to tide you over until we meet again!Saidiya Hartman - Saidiya Hartman, Literary Scholar and Cultural Historian | 2019 MacArthur FellowNtozake Shange - Ntozake Shange preserves Black history and culture through literature (1989 interview)Cheryl Dunye - The Watermelon Woman at 25: the Black lesbian classic that wears its brilliance lightly | BFIDr. Andrea Y. Adomako - Andrea Y. AdomakoWriting Prompt:Write an ode to a cultural icon or piece of memorabilia from your childhood. Make the title a line from a song that was important to you during this era. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jun 24, 2025 • 1h 5min
Tiana Clark vs. Burnout
On today’s episode of VS, Brittany and Ajanae have the opportunity to talk with Tiana Clark. Listen in as they discuss navigating burnout and perfectionism, advocacy within the medical system, neurodivergence, and permission as a part of the creative process. Until Next Time: Here is some media to accompany your experience of the episode and a writing prompt to tide you over until we meet again!Terrance Hayes- What it Look Like | The Poetry FoundationSharon Olds- Sharon Olds talks about her workIssa Rae- AWKWARD Black Girl | “The Stop Sign” [S. 1, Ep. 1]Writing Prompt:Write an ekphrastic poem for a music video that you love. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.


