

Talking Transports
Bloomberg
Talking Transports by Bloomberg Intelligence features forwarding thinking conversations with analysts, executives and entrepreneurs that are shaping the future of the freight transportation industry. The focus will be on trucking, railroads, ocean and air freight markets and everything in between.
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Mar 12, 2024 • 37min
Tucker Built to Ride Out Freight-Broker Lows
A focus on value-added verticals, like life sciences and over-dimensional markets, has helped mitigate the weak freight backdrop for some North American freight brokers. In this Talking Transports podcast, Tucker Company Worldwide CEO Jeff Tucker joins Lee Klaskow, Bloomberg Intelligence senior transportation and logistics analyst, to discuss the broker’s more resilient business model and how the company may be positioned for growth when the freight cycle turns. Trucking conditions could improve as the market appears to be at equilibrium, with more capacity slowly leaving the market and demand growth likely around the corner. Tucker also talks about technology, the bid season, sustainability and the importance of therapy and communication when running a privately held business with his brother.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mar 5, 2024 • 41min
Old Dominion Delivering Through the Cycle
The exit of Yellow Corp. from the less-than-truckload (LTL) market last summer helped mitigate weak freight demand and provided a tailwind for pricing. In this Talking Transports podcast, Old Dominion Freight Line’s CFO Adam Satterfield joins Lee Klaskow, Bloomberg Intelligence senior freight transportation & logistics analyst, to discuss the outlook for LTL markets and how the company is positioned to take on more freight demand when it starts to inflect upward. The company’s industry-leading service levels — measured by low cargo claims and high on-time deliveries — has allowed it to drive rates higher. Tonnage growth should come at high incremental margin and could drive a sub-70 operating ratio over time.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 29, 2024 • 33min
Unpacking From Miami With Citi’s Wetherbee
Transport management teams appear cautiously optimistic that freight demand will bounce off the current state of malaise. In this Talking Transports podcast, Citi Research Managing Director and lead equity analyst of air freight, surface and marine transportation Christian Wetherbee joins Lee Klaskow, Bloomberg Intelligence senior transportation & logistics analyst, to discuss his takeaways from Citi’s industrial conference in Miami last week. J.B. Hunt’s management noted increased competition early on during its intermodal bid season. Norfolk Southern’s presentation left the audience wanting more details about how its strategy is better than the one proposed by activist Ancora. Wetherbee also talks about how the trucking, railroad, ocean and parcel markets are shaping up heading into March.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 27, 2024 • 31min
Project44 Aims to Simplify Supply Chains
The crisis in the Red Sea, low water levels in the Panama Canal and other supply-chain dislocations have increased the importance of enabling shippers to know where their freight is. That helps ensure customers’ needs are met and production shutdowns avoided. In this Talking Transports podcast, Project44’s founder and CEO Jett McCandless joins Lee Klaskow, Bloomberg Intelligence senior transportation & logistics analyst, to discuss the importance of supply-chain visibility and how the company is leading the digitalization of freight markets. McCandless also talks about acquisitions, investing for growth and leveraging its datasets with AI to empower customers, as well as the company’s journey toward going public and getting an enterprise value of over $100 billion.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 20, 2024 • 38min
Seanergy Sees Bright Horizon for Dry-Bulkers
The low orderbook, demand growth and longer ton-miles created by supply-chain disruptions bode well for the health of the dry-bulk industry. In this Talking Transports podcast, Seanergy Maritime Holdings Chairman and CEO Stamatis Tsantanis joins Lee Klaskow, Bloomberg Intelligence senior transportation & logistics analyst, to discuss the opportunities and challenges facing the global dry-bulk shipping market. A prolonged crisis in the Red Sea could drive Capesize rates and profit higher for owners in the coming months. One of the biggest challenges will be the industry’s ability to meet the International Maritime Organization’s goals for zero emissions by 2050 through a transition toward greener fuels, he says. Tsantanis also talks about the impact of Russia’s war on Ukraine and China’s demand for raw materials.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 15, 2024 • 44min
Deutsche’s Mehrotra Looks Beyond the Upcycle
The worst appears to be behind transportation markets, and it’s just a matter of time before the freight recession gives way to growth. In this Talking Transports podcast, Deutsche Bank’s managing director in charge of transportation and shipping research, Amit Mehrotra, joins Bloomberg Intelligence senior transportation & logistics analyst Lee Klaskow to discuss the outlook for freight markets and which companies have secular tailwinds. He’s looking for companies with opportunities for outsized demand growth or turnaround-operations stories. J.B. Hunt, Saia, Norfolk Southern, Union Pacific and UPS are some of Mehrotra’s favorite freight stocks in 2024. He also talks about precision-schedule railroading, intermodal trends, the Red Sea crisis and share opportunities for less-than-truckload carriers.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 13, 2024 • 33min
Saia Sees Plenty of Growth Left in the Tank
Less-than-truckload (LTL) pricing power and share gains from the demise of Yellow last year could position carriers for earnings growth and margin expansion in 2024. In this Talking Transports podcast, Saia President and CEO Fritz Holzgrefe joins Lee Klaskow, Bloomberg Intelligence senior transportation & logistics analyst, to discuss the outlook for the LTL markets and the company’s expansion prospects. Improved service and increased reach has helped Saia offset inflationary pressures, with an 8.7% increase in contract renewals in 4Q. It plans to open 15-20 new terminals to better serve customers and provide a springboard for organic growth. Holzgrefe also talks about how the company is investing in facilities, tractors, trailers and technology to position for expansion.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Feb 6, 2024 • 43min
NFI on Investing Through the Freight Cycle
The worst appears behind the freight transportation market and there are early indications that 2024 will be better than last year. In this Talking Transports podcast, NFI Industries’ Vice Chairman and President Ike Brown joins Lee Klaskow, Bloomberg Intelligence senior transportation & logistics analyst, to discuss where we are in the freight cycle and how the company is positioned for growth in the dedicated, drayage, warehousing and brokerage segments. NFI’s businesses are facing rate and margin pressures given the weak freight backdrop. Being a private company allows NFI to invest through the cycle to be better positioned for when growth returns. Brown also talks about electric trucks, technology as a productivity tool, freight flows and what’s it like to manage a family operation with his two brothers and their kids.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 25, 2024 • 29min
Loosening Labor Markets Could Aid Margins
Freight transportation and logistics companies may face lower costs to attract and retain employees now that tighter labor conditions are loosening, which could help margins in 2024. In this Talking Transports podcast, CS Recruiting’s CEO and founder Charlie Saffro joins Lee Klaskow, Bloomberg Intelligence senior transportation & logistics analyst, to discuss how the labor markets have evolved since the pandemic and what companies can expect this year. The freight economy has been weakening since 2022, as illustrated by the closing of Yellow, a large less-than-truckload carrier, and technology-driven freight broker Convoy, last year. This is leading to weaker labor conditions relative to the national market. CS Recruiting is an executive search firm specializing in the supply-chain, logistics and transportation industries.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jan 16, 2024 • 38min
STB Chair Takes Railroads to Task on Service
US railroads may still be too short staffed to continue improving service, especially as volumes recover this year. In this Talking Transports podcast, the Surface Transportation Board (STB) Chairman Martin Oberman joins Lee Klaskow, Bloomberg Intelligence senior transportation & logistics analyst, to discuss the state of the railroad industry from the regulator’s perspective. Lower head counts from the transition to precision-scheduled railroading and furloughs in 2020 contributed to poor service and supply-chain dislocations during the pandemic, Oberman says. Improving service is imperative for railroads to win share back from trucks and also for the overall health of the economy. Oberman also discusses reciprocal switching, industry consolidation and his pending retirement from the STB.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


