
I'm Learning Mandarin
I'm Learning Mandarin is a podcast that dives deep into the questions that matter to Chinese learners. Host, Mischa Wilmers, talks to the world's leading scholars and draws on his experience of self-studying the language to fluency.
Visit the Im Learning Mandarin blog. Popular posts include:
Your Ultimate Guide To Learning Chinese Tones: https://imlearningmandarin.com/2024/09/16/its-never-too-late-to-learn-chinese-tones-heres-how/
How Long Does It Take To Learn Mandarin: https://imlearningmandarin.com/2024/09/09/reality-check-can-you-actually-master-mandarin-in-six-months/
Latest episodes

Jan 22, 2025 • 26min
Gamify your Chinese learning journey with Ninchanese
Links:
My Tones Mechanic newsletter: https://imlearningmandarin.com/
Ninchanese: https://ninchanese.com/
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On today's episode, I’m joined by Sarah Aberman, co-founder of Ninchanese, an app that makes learning Mandarin fun and accessible through gamified lessons and interactive tools.
We talk about her personal journey learning Mandarin and the inspiration behind creating Ninchanese.

Jan 15, 2025 • 19min
Learning Mandarin with Dong Chinese
Links:
Tones Mechanic Newsletter: imlearningmandarin.com
Dong Chinese: https://www.dong-chinese.com/
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On today's episode of I'm Learning Mandarin, I speak to Peter Olson, the founder of Dong Chinese.
Dong Chinese is an all-in-one Chinese learning app that enables learners to learn sentences in context using spaced repetition.
In the episode, we discuss Peter's own background. Peter was actually born in China before leaving at an early age without learning much of the language, before later moving back and rediscovering Mandarin in adulthood.
We also delve into how the challenges he faced early on as a learner shaped the approaches he developed when creating his app.
This includes some really helpful features, such as the handwriting practice tool that helps solidify memory and the comprehensible media selections that match learners to online Chinese content appropriate to their level.

Jan 8, 2025 • 32min
Former NASA employee applies engineering approach to Mandarin learning
Links:
Tones Mechanic newsletter: imlearningmandarin.com
Outlier Linguistics: https://www.outlier-linguistics.com/
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Ash Henson is the co-founder of Outlier Linguistics, a company dedicated to creating tools and courses that make learning Chinese and other languages more effective and engaging.
Outlier specialise in facilitating the language learning process by breaking down the complexities of the language, including Chinese characters.
And Ash is particularly well placed to do this. He holds a PhD in Chinese Palaeography and Phonology from National Taiwan Normal University, with a specialisation in the study of ancient writing systems.
Initially, he began his career as an electrical engineer and since then he has consistently sought to apply this engineering mindset to the study of languages.
In this interview, I chat with Ash about his novel approaches to learning characters and Mandarin tones.
I began by exploring his unusual background working as an engineer for NASA and how this influenced his learning approach.

Dec 18, 2024 • 23min
Making Mandarin relevant for kids with Karen Cheuk
Links:
Karen's website: Happy Mandarin
My website: imlearningmandarin.com
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Today's guest is Karen Cheuk, an inspiring educator behind Happy Mandarin, an organization that helps children learn Chinese in a fun and engaging environment.
Karen was born and raised in Hong Kong and went on to study at Cambridge University on a scholarship. After graduating and having a daughter, she was inspired to create Happy Mandarin.
She noticed that existing Chinese classes did not strike the right balance between fun and learning and often only catered to Chinese-speaking families, so she created Happy Mandarin to fill this gap.
Karen is also a mother and juggles her work activities with raising a trilingual daughter.
We had a wide-ranging chat about the importance of creating an immersive environment for children to learn a second or third language, encouraging parents to learn alongside their children and how to integrate the language into their daily lives.

Dec 11, 2024 • 29min
Interview with Michael Campbell from Glossika
Links:
Glossika: https://ai.glossika.com/
The I'm Learning Mandarin blog: imlearningmandarin.com
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In this episode, I talk with Michael Campbell, a true language enthusiast and the founder of language learning app, Glossika.
Michael has dedicated a significant portion of his life to
understanding and mastering languages, having lived in Taiwan for most of his life and become proficient in many Chinese languages and dialects along the way.
In this wide ranging interview we discuss how growing up surrounded by polyglots in the intelligence community inspired him to take up languages as well as the driving force behind the creation of Glossika.
Glossika takes a unique approach to language acquisition, focusing on building “muscle memory” through repeated exposure to sound patterns.
This method, coupled with a clever blend of increasing and decreasing spaced repetition intervals, helps learners internalize the natural flow and structure of their target language.
I began by asking Michael how and why he started learning Mandarin.

Dec 4, 2024 • 31min
Interview with Phil Crimmins of Mandarin Blueprint
Links:
Mandarin Blueprint: https://www.mandarinblueprint.com/
My blog: imlearningmandarin.com
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On today’s episode, I interview Phil Crimmins. Phil is one of the two minds behind Mandarin Blueprint, a Mandarin learning course with over 4000 videos taking learners step-by-step all the way to Mandarin proficiency.
Phil's journey with Mandarin is fascinating. He graduated from Sichuan University in China with a bachelor's degree in the Chinese language. But he left unsatisfied with the traditional methods of learning Chinese he'd been exposed to.
So together with his business partner Luke, they created Mandarin Blueprint.
Before exploring how the blueprint works and the thinking that went behind it, I was keen to find out more about Phil’s personal experiences of learning Mandarin.

Nov 27, 2024 • 24min
Learning Mandarin with Amanda Miss Panda
Links:Amanda's website: https://www.misspandachinese.com/about/Let's Learn Chinese with Miss Panda album: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7glqGNHQOnHMV7pNKbMTSUMy website: imlearningmandarin.com--Welcome to the podcast! Today's guest is Amanda, better known as "Miss Panda," a renowned expert in Mandarin language instruction.Amanda boasts over 30 years of experience teaching English as a Second Language (ESL) and Mandarin Chinese.She's also a published author, consultant, and the creative force behind the popular "Let's Learn Mandarin Chinese with Miss Panda!" album, which has helped introduce Mandarin Chinese to a global audience.Throughout her career, Amanda has made significant contributions to the field of language acquisition, presenting her insights at conferences worldwide. Her dedication extends beyond the classroom; she actively assists various educational institutions in developing their Chinese language and culture programs.In this episode, we'll explore Amanda's inspiring journey as a Mandarin teacher, her innovative teaching methods, and the impact she's had on countless language learners. I began by asking her how that journey all began.

Nov 20, 2024 • 15min
Maintaining your Mandarin skills while living outside China: Interview with Jorrit
Links:
Jorrit's Kaohongshu blog: https://kaohongshu.blog/about/
My free eBook: https://www.peakmandarin.com/free-ebook
My blog: imlearningmandarin.com
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In this episode, I have the pleasure of chatting with Jorrit, a Dutch blogger and the creator of the Kaohongshu website, about his Mandarin learning journey.
Jorrit opens up about learning the language, living in China, and the challenges of maintaining his abilities after returning to a non-Chinese-speaking environment.
We also explore the story behind his Kaohongshu blog and his mission to inspire and help others in their language-learning journeys.

Nov 13, 2024 • 28min
Teaching Languages Through Storytelling: Interview with Bryce Hedstrom
Links:
Bryce's website: https://www.brycehedstrom.com
My free Mandarin Learning eBook: https://www.peakmandarin.com/free-ebook
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On today’s episode, I interview Bryce Hedstrom – an award-winning teacher trainer in northern Colorado.
Bryce has a varied and fascinating history in language learning and teaching, graduating in Spanish before teaching the language in public schools and at the college level for 30 years.
He’s worked with clients in the business world, including Fortune 500 corporations and has received multiple awards for his work implementing methods for language instruction that centre around comprehensible input and storytelling.
Moreover, as we’ll soon discover, he’s taken an interest in learning Mandarin, applying similar methods to those that were so effective in his teaching career.
With so much to cover in this interview, it was hard to know where to start. So I began by asking Bryce how his fascination with languages all began.

Nov 6, 2024 • 55min
Special Live Q&A: Ask me anything with Will Hart
Links:
Our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/b9PAyKwT9p
Our Peak Mandarin Masterpack for learning Chinese: https://www.peakmandarin.com/masterclass
Will's Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@willhartmandarin/videos
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In this episode, I share our special live q&a session with Will Hart, co-founder of Peak Mandarin.
Will should need no introduction to readers of this blog. Two years ago he burst on the Mandarin learning scene when videos of him speaking flawless Chinese after learning for less than two years went viral on
YouTube.
In the q&a, Will took live questions from the audience in our Discord Server on all things Mandarin learning.
Questions ranged from Will’s thoughts on Comprehensible Input to how he went about learning characters.