With Pace

Phil Gaimon is a former World Tour road cyclist who rode for Garmin-Sharp and Cannondale-Drapac among others. While racing, he blogged for VeloNews, Bicycling, ESPN, and Sports Illustrated and wrote the popular book Pro Cycling on $10 a Day (2014).  He retired at age 30, expecting to hang up his race bike and put on some cookie-weight. He continued writing (Draft Animals (2017)), but through a series of unexpected twists, launched his wildly successful YouTube show “Worst Retirement Ever,” which follows his pursuit of breaking hill climb records all over the world. In this conversation, Phil and Payson discuss his decision to quit pro cycling early, how he got his start on YouTube after a marketing job fell through, stealing STRAVA KOM’s from dopers, racing Fabian Cancellara for charity after an internet spat, and how he became the final authority on cookie ratings on Instagram.  Instagram: @withpacepodYouTube: Payson McElveen Email: howdy@withpace.cc

Christian Williams and Payson have been working together for over a decade, ever since Payson was a junior racing in local and state races in Texas. Over 20 years of coaching, Christian has led over a hundred riders to national podiums, and been the director of the Garmin development team and the USA Pan American Games team. In addition to his coaching, he's raced for over 35 years as well. In this conversation, he and Payson discuss why their relationship has lasted for so many years when most coach/athlete relationships last only months, the training methods Christian uses for pros and non-professional cyclists, doping, and why former pros don’t always make the best coaches. Instagram: @withpacepodYouTube: Payson McElveen Email: howdy@withpace.cc

Tiffany Cromwell is an Australian road cyclist who rides for Canyon-SRAM. Her many accomplishments include stage wins at the Gira d’Italia and victory in the Belgium Spring Classic Omloop Het Nieuwsblad. She and Payson caught up this summer at Steamboat Gravel (SBT GRVL) to talk about her early introduction to the world of professional cycling, starting her own fashion line, how she’s hoping to turn her passion for travel into a post-cycling career, and what she wants to see change in women’s road cycling. Instagram: @withpacepodYouTube: Payson McElveen Email: howdy@withpace.cc

Carson Storch is a freeride and slopestyle mountain biker, best known for his participation in the Mountain Bike Freeride World Tour and Red Bull Rampage. He and Payson caught up in L.A. only a few days after this year's Rampage to talk about the event and its challenges. They discuss the behind-the-scenes build process that can make or break a good run, and the alliances and politics involved with it. They talk about techniques Carson uses to keep his cool during such a high stakes competition, and why he keeps his gym regimen to a minimum. They also do a deep dive into Carson's experiences filming the 2018 film North of Nightfall in which he and three other big mountain freeriders were taken on a month-long filming expedition to Axel Heiberg, an uninhabited island in the High Arctic that is home to one of the world's largest glaciers and is experiencing some of the most rapid repercussions of climate change. Instagram: @withpacepodYouTube: Payson McElveen Email: howdy@withpace.cc

Ted King is a former professional road cyclist and current gravel racer. Ted's diverse interests off the bike are nearly too numerous to count, but include hosting his own podcast (King of the Ride), co-owning a maple syrup based nutrition company, Untapped,  and founding the acclaimed gravel event Rooted Vermont. Before his gravel racing career, Ted was a professional World Tour road racer with Liquigas, during which time he raced the Tour de France and was a key domestique to Peter Sagan. Payson caught up with Ted at the media launch of Big Sugar, a new gravel race in Bentonville, Arkansas. Short on time, they decided to interview each other during the discussion and upload the conversation to each of their shows. They discuss their favorite podcasts, their love of the off the bike hustle, why Ted retired from world tour racing at the tender age of 32, and how he feels about the professionalization of gravel racing. Instagram: @withpacepodYouTube: Payson McElveen Email: howdy@withpace.cc

Ned Overend and John Tomac dominated professional mountain biking during its hay day of the late 80’s and 90’s in a rivalry that is permanently etched in off-road racing history. Their battles defined the sport for nearly a decade, and were made even more memorable by the diverse and dynamic technological advancements of the time. One year ago, Payson got Ned and John together for a rare one-on-one conversation, which they recorded at Tomac's 800 acre ranch in Cortez, CO. They talk about what it was like to see the sport change due to drug use, and ultimately be forced in to retirement because of it. They reminisce about unique bike set-ups and the limitations of early race bikes, what their relationship was like when they were at the peak of their careers, and how mountain biking has changed in the decades since. They also discuss Tomac’s current work with his son, Eli, one of the best motocross racers in the world, and Ned’s continued age-defying career on the bike that is still giving some of the best racers a run for their money. Payson also reached out to some of the biggest names inspired by Ned and John, to see what they wanted to ask their heroes. As such, questions from Geoff Kabush, Todd Wells, Travis Brown, Alison Dunlap, and Carl Decker are featured throughout the conversation. Instagram: @withpacepodYouTube: Payson McElveen Email: howdy@withpace.cc

Ellen Noble is a four-time cyclocross national champion and world champion silver medalist. In this interview, she and Payson go deep on gender equality and the #MeToo movement, talk about their favorite books, and lighten the mood with a few breakfast recipes. Ellen has been an outspoken advocate of gender parity within cycling and in the broader world, and is the founder of #bunnyhopthepatriarchy, a movement intended to highlight and reduce gender inequities in the cycling world.Instagram: @withpacepodYouTube: Payson McElveen Email: howdy@withpace.cc

Jake Murray is a professional ninja, best known for his multiple appearances on the hit reality competition show American Ninja Warrior. He's been on the show for the past four seasons, and his speed and creative flair make him a crowd favorite each year. Payson sat down with Jake to talk about how a person from South Dakota becomes a professional ninja, the one type of fitness that gives him a competitive edge, and why his love for Kevin Bacon finally got him cast on the show after years of unsuccessful attempts. Instagram: @withpacepodYouTube: Payson McElveen Email: howdy@withpace.cc

In their second conversation on The Adventure Stache, Payson and mountaineer Mark Twight sat down in Mark’s Non Prophet headquarters in Salt Lake City, Utah to pick up where they left off in Part I. They discuss Mark’s use of male group dynamics to get major results in his work as a Hollywood trainer on some of the biggest action and superhero movies of the decade, the fear of underachieving, and why Mark is totally fine with the dangers of Everest’s overcrowding problem. Instagram: @withpacepodYouTube: Payson McElveen Email: howdy@withpace.cc

Colin Strickland is a gravel, cyclocross, and road cyclist who shot to prominence in 2016 when he dominated the 2016 Red Hook Criterium fixed-gear series in Brooklyn. Since then, he’s won back-to-back titles at Gravel Worlds and taken the win at this year’s Dirty Kanza 200, becoming the first person to finish the race in under ten hours. Payson caught up with Colin in San Francisco last month, the morning after they competed in Red Bull Bay Climb, to discuss his achievements and varied career. They talk about their love of off the bike tinkering, their experiences attending the same tiny private school in Austin, TX from kindergarten through high school, and Colin’s unconventional Dirty Kanza strategy that baffled his competitors and brought him a decisive victory. Instagram: @withpacepodYouTube: Payson McElveen Email: howdy@withpace.cc