

The Curious Task
Institute for Liberal Studies
We explore philosophy, politics, economics, and other ideas from a classical liberal perspective.
Episodes
Mentioned books

Oct 30, 2024 • 49min
Elias Khalil - Who Was Ibn Khaldûn?
Alex speaks with Elias Khalil about the influential ideas of Ibn Khaldun, delving into Khaldun's theories on the rise and fall of civilizations, the nature of political communities, and the importance of solidarity (Asabiyya). Khalil connects these insights to classical liberal thought and the works of Adam Smith, emphasizing Khaldun’s impact on understanding political order as a product of social dynamics rather than divine intervention.
References
1. "The Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History" by Ibn Khaldun, translated by Franz Rosenthal
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Muqaddimah-Introduction-History-Ibn-Khaldun/dp/0691166285
2. “Ibn Khaldoun and Adam Smith—Two Heroes of the Modern Age.”
https://www.adamsmithworks.org/documents/ibn-khaldoun-and-adam-smith
3. “Ibn Khaldûn on Property Rights, The Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History.”
Journal of Institutional Economics, August 2007, 3:2, pp. 227-238. (It includes a long excerpt (pp. 233-238) from Ibn Khaldûn’s The Muqaddimah: An Introduction to History.) http://dx.doi.org/10.1017/S1744137407000677
4. "The Theory of Moral Sentiments" by Adam Smith
Link: https://a.co/d/j7XuEp4
5. "The Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Wealth-Nations-Adam-Smith/dp/1505577128

Oct 23, 2024 • 55min
Larry White - What Is Free Banking?
Matt speaks with Larry White about the principles of free banking, focusing on how competitive banking systems can operate without centralized control. Larry highlights historical examples and the theoretical frameworks supporting free banking, emphasizing the benefits of decentralized monetary systems.
References
"The Theory of Free Banking: Money Supply under Competitive Note Issue" by George A. Selgin, Foreward by Larry White
Link: https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/white-the-theory-of-free-banking-money-supply-under-competitive-note-issue
"Free Banking in Britain: Theory, Experience, and Debate, 1800-1845" by Larry White
Link: https://iea.org.uk/publications/research/free-banking-in-britain-theory-experience-and-debate-1800-1845
"Competition and Currency: Essays on Free Banking and Money" by Lawrence H. White
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Competition-Currency-Essays-Banking-Money/dp/0814792472
"Money, Bank Credit, and Economic Cycles" by Jesús Huerta de Soto
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Money-Bank-Credit-Economic-Cycles/dp/0945466390
"The Denationalisation of Money" by Friedrich Hayek
Link: https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Denationalisation%20of%20Money.pdf
"The Experience of Free Banking" by Kevin Dowd
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Experience-Banking-Kevin-Durham-University/dp/0255368305
"Money and the Market: Essays on Free Banking" by Kevin Dowd
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Money-Market-Essays-Free-Banking/dp/0415758424
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Oct 16, 2024 • 57min
Alex Edmans - How Do Stories, Stats And Studies Exploit Our Biases?
Alex speaks with Alex Edmans about his book May Contain Lies, examining the widespread issue of misinformation and exploring how factors like confirmation bias, cognitive shortcuts, and misleading statistics can shape public opinion. They discuss practical strategies for identifying and avoiding misinformation, along with the broader societal impact of misinterpreted data.
References
"May Contain Lies" by Alex Edmans
Link: https://a.co/d/aX2AJ0I
"Thinking, Fast and Slow" by Daniel Kahneman
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0385676530
"Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction" by Philip E. Tetlock
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Superforecasting-Art-Science-Philip-Tetlock/dp/0804136696
"Factfulness: Ten Reasons We're Wrong About the World – and Why Things Are Better Than You Think" by Hans Rosling
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Factfulness-Reasons-World-Things-Better/dp/1250107814
"The Signal and the Noise: Why So Many Predictions Fail – but Some Don't" by Nate Silver
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Signal-Noise-Many-Predictions-Fail/dp/0143125087
"How to Lie with Statistics" by Darrell Huff
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728
"Start With Why" by Simon Sinek
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Start-Why-Leaders-Inspire-Everyone/dp/1591846447
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Oct 9, 2024 • 60min
Mike Munger - Is Capitalism Sustainable?
In 2020, Alex spoke with Mike Munger about the sustainability of capitalism. We're republishing that very important conversation today.
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Alex Aragona talks with Mike Munger as he explores his views on the sustainability of capitalism and the factors that contribute to it.
References from Episode 23 with Michael Munger
You can order Michael Munger’s book Is Capitalism Sustainable on Amazon Canada here
You can order his book Tomorrow 3.0 on Amazon Canada here

Oct 2, 2024 • 54min
Jeffrey Miron - Should Government Discourage Sin?
Matt speaks with Jeffrey Miron about the justice and effectiveness of "sin taxes," evaluating whether taxes on goods like alcohol, tobacco, and sugary drinks achieve their intended public health goals or whether they unfairly restrict individual choice. The conversation explores the ethical implications of using taxation as a tool for social engineering and questions the actual impact these policies have on behavior.
References
"Should Governments Try to Reduce Sin?" by Jeffrey Miron
Link: https://scholar.harvard.edu/miron/publications/should-governments-try-reduce-sin
"The Time Travelling Dietitian" (YouTube Video)
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ua-WVg1SsA
"Nudge: Improving Decisions About Health, Wealth, and Happiness" by Richard H. Thaler and Cass R. Sunstein
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Nudge-Improving-Decisions-Health-Happiness/dp/014311526X
"The Theory of Moral Sentiments" by Adam Smith
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Theory-Moral-Sentiments-Adam-Smith/dp/0143105922
"For Your Own Good: The Anti-Smoking Crusade and the Tyranny of Public Health" by Jacob Sullum
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Your-Own-Good-Anti-Smoking-Crusade/dp/0684871157
"The Constitution of Liberty" by Friedrich Hayek
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Constitution-Liberty-Friedrich-Hayek/dp/0226320847
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Sep 25, 2024 • 59min
Adam Lovasz - Is Spontaneous Order Just A Human Phenomenon?
Alex speaks with Ádám Lovász about the concept of spontaneous order, examining its philosophical roots in thinkers like Hayek and exploring its applications beyond human societies, including ecosystems and insect colonies, as well as its implications for understanding the limitations of technocratic control in both markets and ecological systems.
References
Adam's Author Page on Amazon
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/stores/author/B00LXFHXN8/about?ingress=0&visitId=5dbd96f1-456d-41f2-a1e7-6d59eeaf6ca9&ref_=ap_rdr
"The Constitution of Liberty" by Friedrich Hayek
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Constitution-Liberty-Friedrich-Hayek/dp/0226320847
"The Sensory Order: An Inquiry into the Foundations of Theoretical Psychology" by Friedrich Hayek
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Sensory-Order-Friedrich-Hayek/dp/0226320944
"The Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Wealth-Nations-Adam-Smith/dp/1505577128
"Anarchy, State, and Utopia" by Robert Nozick
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Anarchy-State-Utopia-Robert-Nozick/dp/0465097200
"Stigmergic Epistemology, Stigmergic Cognition
Link: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1389041707000290
"The Road to Serfdom: Texts and Documents -- The Definitive Edition" by Friedrich Hayek
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Road-Serfdom-Fiftieth-Anniversary/dp/0226320553
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Sep 18, 2024 • 57min
Colin Craig - How Bad Is Canadian Healthcare?
Matt speaks with Colin Craig about the Canadian healthcare system, discussing its inefficiencies, long wait times, and potential reforms, while comparing it to healthcare models in other countries and offering practical suggestions for improvement.
References
Health Reform Now - the documentary that informs much of this conversation:
Link: https://secondstreet.org/new-documentary-health-reform-now/
"Universal Health Care: What the United States Can Learn from the Experience of Other Developed Nations" Panel featuring Karen Davis
Link: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2838163/
"The Healthcare Fix: Universal Insurance for All Americans" by Laurence J. Kotlikoff
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Healthcare-Fix-Universal-Insurance-Americans/dp/0262113147
"Cross-Border Healthcare"
Link: https://www.pgeu.eu/cross-border-health-care/#:~:text=The%20Cross%2DBorder%20Healthcare%20Directive,provided%20certain%20conditions%20are%20fulfilled.
"Analytical methods to assess the impacts of activity-based funding (ABF): a scoping review"
Link: https://healtheconomicsreview.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13561-021-00315-1
"Waiting Your Turn: Wait Times for Health Care in Canada, 2022 Report" by Bacchus Barua and Mackenzie Moyer
Link: https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/waiting-your-turn-wait-times-for-health-care-in-canada-2022
"The Overton Window"
Link: https://www.mackinac.org/OvertonWindow
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Sep 11, 2024 • 1h 1min
Sabine El-Chidiac - What Helps Refugees Succeed?
To celebrate Sabine’s time at the ILS and her work with the Curious Task, we’re revisiting Sabine’s first appearance as a guest on the podcast.
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Alex Aragona speaks with Sabine El-Chidiac as she explores the different ways civil society solutions help refugees succeed when they move to their new home.
References from The Curious Task Episode 68 with Sabine El-Chidiac
You can find Sabine's work on this topic mentioned in the podcast at Police Options here
The Government of Canada’s website contains a list of all the programs under which economic immigrants are admitted into Canada.
Here is some more information about the express entry pathway.
As Sabine noted in the podcast, admission under the Provincial Nominee Program is dependent upon what the destination province deems to be their biggest occupational and employment goals and needs. This link provides a brief overview of the program and hyperlinks to province-specific guidelines.
You can read more about the UNHCR’s Refugee Status Designation process on their website here, as well as their procedural standards here.
This is the link to the Government of Canada’s guide to the private refugee sponsorship process.
Sabine mentioned the work of the Anglican Diocese of Toronto to accommodate and build a community for refugees by performing fundraisers and food drives amongst the parishioners. You can read their mission statement on their website.
Sabine’s article, The success of the privately sponsored refugee system, discusses some of the themes from this podcast, such as the principle of civil society, and is available for reading on Policy Options.
Here is a link to the Rapid Impact Evaluation of the Syrian Refugee Initiative developed by Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (2016. It compares the outcomes, living standards, and satisfaction of government and privately sponsored Syrian refugees between 2015-2016.
This is a link to the joint statement to the UN General Assembly by the Ministers of Canada, United Kingdom, Ireland, Argentina, Spain, and New Zealand speaking in favour of community-led sponsorship approaches that Alex briefly mentions on the podcast.
Here is a link to the official PSR cap published by the Government of Canada. Some examples of the lobbying against PSR caps include the Canadian Council for Refugees and the Canadian Refugee Sponsorship Agreement Holders Association.
Alex and Sabine discuss Danby Appliances’ CEO Jim Estill’s sponsorship and hiring of over fifty refugee families in Guelph, Ontario. You can read more about this in the article linked here.
On the podcast, Sabine shares the inspiring story coming out of Haida Gwaii, British Columbia with regards to how the refugees who were once sponsored to the area eventually became systems of support for new incoming refugees. You can follow the community work for refugees in Haida Gwaii through one of their local newspaper’s website.

Sep 4, 2024 • 54min
Mark Koyama - How Can Monopoly Lead To Shipwreck?
Alex speaks with Mark Koyama about the historical context and economic implications of the Manila Galleon trade, focusing on how monopolistic practices increased the risk of shipwrecks and the broader lessons for contemporary economics about the unintended consequences of monopoly power.
References
"Shipwrecked by Rents" by Mark Koyama, Desiderio Desideri, and Fernando Arteaga
Link: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0304387823001967
"The Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Wealth-Nations-Adam-Smith/dp/1505577128
"Institutions, Institutional Change and Economic Performance" by Douglass C. North
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Institutions-Institutional-Change-Economic-Performance/dp/0521397340
"An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith
Link: https://www.econlib.org/library/Smith/smWN.html
"The East India Company: A History" by Philip Lawson
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/East-India-Company-Philip-Lawson/dp/0582073855
"Empire: How Britain Made the Modern World" by Niall Ferguson
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Empire-How-Britain-Made-Modern/dp/0141007540
"The Rise and Fall of the Spanish Empire" by William Maltby
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Rise-Fall-Spanish-Empire/dp/1403917922

Aug 28, 2024 • 1h 5min
Jacob Levy - What Is The Idea Of A Liberal Party?
Summary
Alex speaks with Jacob Levy about the concept of a liberal party, exploring its philosophical foundations, historical context, and touch on all of these points within the context of Jacob's article "The Liberal Party Idea" (2024).
References
The Liberal Party Idea by Jacob Levy:
Link:https://www.researchgate.net/publication/381323406_The_liberal_party_idea_and_American_ideology
"On Liberty" by John Stuart Mill
Link: https://www.gutenberg.org/files/34901/34901-h/34901-h.htm
"The Constitution of Liberty" by Friedrich Hayek
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Constitution-Liberty-Friedrich-Hayek/dp/0226320847
"The Federalist Papers" by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay
Link: https://guides.loc.gov/federalist-papers/full-text
"Reflections on the Revolution in France" by Edmund Burke
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Reflections-Revolution-France-Edmund-Burke/dp/0199539022
"Democracy in America and Two Essays on America" by Alexis de Tocqueville
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Democracy-America-Alexis-Tocqueville/dp/0140447601
"Two Treatises of Government" by John Locke
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Two-Treatises-Government-John-Locke/dp/1616190345
"Political Liberalism" by John Rawls
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Political-Liberalism-John-Rawls/dp/0231130899
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