
The Curious Task
We explore philosophy, politics, economics, and other ideas from a classical liberal perspective.
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Aug 2, 2023 • 1h 3min
Scott Scheall - How Are Carl and Karl Menger Important For Liberalism?
Alex speaks with Scott Scheall about Carl and Karl Menger and their influence on the history of economics, liberal theory, and - yes - mathematics.
Further Reading:
"Karl Menger as Son of Carl Menger" - Scott Scheall & Reinhard Schumacher
https://philarchive.org/rec/SCHKMA-4
Econlib Biography of elder Menger:
https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/bios/Menger.html
1871. Principles of Economics. Translated by J. Dingwall and B. F. Hoselitz, with an introduction by Friedrich A. Hayek. New York: New York University Press, 1981.
1892. “On the Origin of Money.” Economic Journal 2 (June): 239–255.
“Mises Introduces the Austrian School,” http://mises.org/daily/3512 from Ludwig von Mises, Memoirs.
Joseph T. Salerno, “Biography of Carl Menger: The Founder of the Austrian School (1840-1921),” http://mises.org/about/3239
Biography of Karl Menger
https://www.hetwebsite.net/het/profiles/kmenger.htm
Including the following Major Works:
Dimensiontheorie, 1928
"On Intuitionism", 1930, Blatter der deutschen Pilosophy
Kurventheorie, 1932
"The New Logic", 1933, in Krise und Neuaufbau in den Exackten Wissenschaften
Moral Wille und Weltgestaltung, 1934.
"The Role of Uncertainty in Economics", 1934, ZfN
"Remarks on the Law of Diminishing Returns: A study in meta-economics", 1936, ZfN
"The Logic of Laws of Return: A study in meta-economics", 1954, in Morgenstern, editor, Economic Activity Analysis.
"Austrian Marginalism and Mathematical Economics", 1973, in Hicks and Weber, editors, Carl Menger and the Austrian School of Economics
Morality, decision, and social organization : toward a logic of ethics, 1974.
Selected Papers in Logic and Foundations, Didactics, Economics, 1979.
Reminiscences of the Vienna Circle and the Mathematical Colloquium, 1994. (ed. L. Golland, B. McGuinness and A. Sklar) [prev]
"On the direction of ideas and the principal tendencies of the Vienna Mathematical Colloqium", 1998, in E. Dierker & K. Sigismund, editors, Karl Menger Ergebnisse eines Mathematischen Kolloquiums

Jul 26, 2023 • 1h 5min
Jason Lee Byas - How Should We Deal With Historic Injustice?
Alex speaks with Jason Lee Byas about the complexities of responding to questions of historic injustice, reparations, and compensation within a libertarian framework.
Originally Aired as Episode 140 on Wednesday May 04, 2022
References
1. Articles by Jason Lee Byas, Center for a Stateless Society
Link: https://c4ss.org/content/author/jason-byas
2. “Rectification and Historic Injustice” by Jason Lee Byas
Link: https://philpapers.org/archive/BYARAH.pdf
3. “A Black Commons: A Framework for Recognition, Reconciliation, and Reparations” by Julian Agyeman and Kofi Boone
Link: https://www.academia.edu/113180745/The_Black_CommonsA_Framework_for_Recognition_Reconciliation_Reparations
4. “Compensation for Historic Injustices: Completing the Boxill and Sher Argument” by Andrew I. Cohen
Link: https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/40212837.pdf
5. “Should Race Matter?: Unusual Answers to the Usual Questions” by David Boonin
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Should-Race-Matter-Unusual-Questions/dp/0521149800
6. “The Ethics of Liberty” by Murray N. Rothbard
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Ethics-Liberty-Murray-N-Rothbard/dp/0814775594
7. “Historical Rights and Fair Shares” by A. John Simmons
Link: https://www.jstor.org/stable/3505011
8. “The Multiculturalism of Fear” by Jacob Levy
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Multiculturalism-Fear-Jacob-T-Levy/dp/0198297122
9. “Apologies and Moral Repair: Rights, Duties, and Corrective Justice” by Andrew I. Cohen
Link: https://www.amazon.ca/Apologies-Moral-Repair-Corrective-Justice/dp/0367508036

Jul 19, 2023 • 54min
Nigel Ashford - Can We Change The World For Liberty?
Alex speaks with Nigel Ashford about the prospects for a freer world and how the memory of history, the hope of younger persons, and the teaching of ideas can shape the future of classical liberalism.
Further Reading:
https://libertarianism.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/socin003.pdf
Chapter 2 of this book: https://iea.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Blundell-interactive.pdf
https://fee.org/articles/the-tide-in-the-affairs-of-men/
https://cdn.mises.org/Intellectuals%20and%20Socialism_4.pdf
https://www.libertarianism.org/publications/essays/why-do-intellectuals-oppose-capitalism
http://wordlist.narod.ru/Government-Failure.pdf

Jul 12, 2023 • 1h 9min
Jake Monaghan - Is Just Policing Possible?
Alex speaks with Jake Monaghan about ideal vs. ideal theory approaches to policing, the history and function of the police as an institution, and how to respond to police abolitionists.
Episode Notes
Jake's book - the subject of the conversation - can be purchased here: https://a.co/d/ewVS0h9
References are made to G. A. Cohen's Why Not Socialism, which can be read here: https://www3.nd.edu/~pweithma/Readings/Cohen,%20Gerald/Cohen,%20G%20(Why%20not%20Socialism).pdf
... and to "The Dispossessed", which can be read here:
https://files.libcom.org/files/Le%20Guin%20-%20The%20Dispossessed.pdf

Jul 5, 2023 • 1h 6min
Trevor Burrus - What Is The Statrix?
Alex speaks with Trevour Burrus about his concept of the Statrix and why the solution to every problem should not be more government programs, intervention and restriction.
Episode Notes:
Introductory YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eavx1ZVVyzM
Seeing the Statrix: Invisible and Omnipresent
by Trevor Burrus: https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/articles/burrus-cap-research-center-10-18-2018.pdf
The Boris Yeltsin Grocery Store Visit:
https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/bayarea/news/article/When-Boris-Yeltsin-went-grocery-shopping-in-Clear-5759129.php#photo-6130394
Trevor’s CATO article about the dairy industry:
https://www.cato.org/commentary/rebel-farmers-government-cartels-how-new-deal-cartelized-us-agriculture

Jun 28, 2023 • 1h 8min
Camden Hutchison - Why Restrict Freedom of Expression?
Alex speaks with Camden Hutchison about the nuances of freedom of expression laws in Canada and the United States, and the ways in which immature understandings of free speech can obfuscate the public discourse surrounding this fundamental right in North American law and politics.
Episode Notes
Freedom of Expression: Values and Harms - Camden Hutchison
https://albertalawreview.com/index.php/ALR/article/view/2733
Guide to the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (Including Freedom of Expression)
https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/how-rights-protected/guide-canadian-charter-rights-freedoms.html
Guide to The Constitution (Including the First Amendment)
https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/our-government/the-constitution/#:~:text=The%20First%20Amendment%20provides%20that,the%20right%20to%20bear%20arms
Overview of Bill C-19 (Including Division 21 criminalizing various forms of Holocaust denial)
https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/trans/bm-mb/other-autre/c19/remarks-remarques.html

Jun 21, 2023 • 1h 6min
Pete Boettke - Is Hayek Still Relevant?
Alex speaks with Pete Boettke about the relevancy of Friedrich Hayek in the contemporary context, what it means to be a "Hayekian" and the curious tale of how Hayek came to be the focus of his latest book "F. A. Hayek: Economics, Political Economy and Social Philosophy"
Episode Notes
Pete’s book “F. A. Hayek: Economics, Political Economy and Social Philosophy“ https://a.co/d/ah7SpwW
Hayek on The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/friedrich-hayek/
Introduction to Hayek’s “Road to Serfdom” https://mises.org/library/road-serfdom-0
Murray Rothbard’s “Man, Economy and State” retrospective https://fee.org/articles/rothbards-man-economy-and-state-at-50/
Milton Friedman’s “Free To Choose” https://www.proglocode.unam.mx/sites/proglocode.unam.mx/files/docencia/Milton%20y%20Rose%20Friedman%20-%20Free%20to%20Choose.pdf
Hayek “Prices and Production” https://mises.org/library/prices-and-production-and-other-works
Introduction to economics of Lucas https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/bios/Lucas.html
Steve Horowitz on Hayek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5dR0zgC1ZI
Herbert Dreyfuss “What Computers Can’t Do” https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262540674/what-computers-still-cant-do/
Horowitz quote on Hayek “we have to learn to live in two worlds at once” https://www.jstor.org/stable/41560288
Hayek’s “The Fatal Conceit” https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/F/bo3643985.html
Kenneth Boulding “After Samuelson, Who Needs Adam Smith?” https://read.dukeupress.edu/hope/article-abstract/3/2/225/12381/After-Samuelson-Who-Needs-Adam-Smith“The Extended Present” (concept) https://medium.com/extended-present/about
The “Grapes vs. Cucumbers as pay for Monkeys” experiment (youtube video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiU6TxysCg
The Constitution of Liberty - Hayek https://www.mises.at/static/literatur/Buch/hayek-the-constitution-of-liberty.pdf
Chandran Kukathas’ Liberal Archipelago https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-liberal-archipelago-9780199219209?cc=ca&lang=en&
Kind vs. Wicked learning environments. https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/experience-studio/202007/experience-kind-vs-wicked

Jun 14, 2023 • 48min
Darwyyn Deyo - How Does Occupational Licensing Increase Barriers for Workers?
Alex speaks with Darwynn Deyo about the many ways in which occupational licensing can in fact reduce efficiency in the workforce, make it harder for people to cross borders, and ultimately reduce economic mobility for already disadvantaged groups.
Episode Notes and Further Reading:
License To Work: A National Study of Burdens from Occupational Licensing (2022) https://ij.org/report/license-to-work-3/
Policy Brief: Licensing Barriers for Women in the Workforce - Dr. Darwyyn Deyo (2022) https://csorwvu.com/policy-brief-licensing-barriers-for-women-in-the-workforce/
Policy Brief: Survey of Universal Licensing Reforms in the United States - Dr. Darwyyn Deyo (2022) https://csorwvu.com/policy-brief-survey-of-universal-licensing-reforms-in-the-united-states/
Testing Licensing and Consumer Satisfaction for Beauty Services in the United States
in Grease or Grit?: International Case Studies of Occupational Licensing and Its
Effects on Efficiency and Quality - Darwyyn Deyo (2022)
Have license, will travel: Measuring the effects of universal licensing
recognition on mobility - Darwyyn Deyo & Alicia Plemmons (2022)
Occupational Licensing: Improving Access to Regulatory Information - Morris M. Kleiner & Edward J. Timmons (2020)
Licensing massage therapists in the name of crime: the case of Harper v Lindsay - Darwyyn Deyo, Blake Hoarty, Conor Norris and Edward Timmons (2020)
Effects of Occupational Licensing and Unions on Labour Market Earnings in Canada
- Tingting Zhang (2019)
Guild-Ridden Labor Markets: The Curious Case of Occupational Licensing - Morris M. Kleiner (2015)

Jun 7, 2023 • 38min
Fiona Harrigan - How Does Immigration Make Us Freer?
Alex speaks with Fiona Harrigan about the state of immigration in the United States and elsewhere, and the ways in which "outsiders" make "insiders" better off - both instrumentally and categorically.
Episode Notes:
The Government Is Turning Border Surveillance on Everyday Americans by Fiona Harrigan https://reason.com/2023/03/28/the-government-is-turning-border-surveillance-on-everyday-americans/
Cutting Legal Immigration Won’t Help Low‐Skilled American Workers By Alex Nowrasteh https://www.cato.org/blog/cutting-legal-immigration-wont-help-low-skilled-american-workers
NFAP study on Immigrant-founded startups https://nfap.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Immigrant-Entrepreneurs-and-Billion-Dollar-Companies.DAY-OF-RELEASE.2022.pdf
“Title 42 has ended. Here’s what it did, and how US immigration policy is changing” by Colleen Long https://apnews.com/article/immigration-biden-border-title-42-mexico-asylum-be4e0b15b27adb9bede87b9bbefb798d

May 31, 2023 • 42min
James Harrigan - What’s Wrong With Utopias?
What's the harm in dreaming big? Significant, James Harrigan believes. Alex and James discuss the many ways in which Utopian theory has led to disaster in practice - From Plato to Lenin and into the present day.
Episode Notes:
Keynes on Eugenics, Race, and Population Control https://mises.org/wire/keynes-eugenics-race-and-population-control
Phillip W. Magness, James R. Harrigan; John Maynard Keynes, H. G. Wells, and a Problematic Utopia. History of Political Economy 1 April 2020; 52 (2): 211–238. doi: https://doi.org/10.1215/00182702-8173298
Plato’s Republic - Ethics and Politics https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/plato-ethics-politics/
Thomas Moore’s Utopia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utopia_(book)
“The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design” - F.A. Hayek