

ASYMMETRIC
Shantanu, Chirag and Revant
Welcome to ASYMMETRIC Podcast! :)We are three friends who will every Friday discuss happenings during the week across startups, business, tech, social and political.The episode will aim to double click on 2nd order insights and So-What's. We will also bring in the best experts in the fields to provide nuance and perspective.If you're an entrepreneur, run a business or generally are curious about how to think about what's happening around you, do tune in :)Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder & CEO, Bombay Shaving Company Chirag: Founder, GoKwik📺 A new episode every Friday at 7pm.
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Mar 21, 2025 • 1h 40min
From India for the World : Breaking down the export opportunity for startups
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: Founder, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving CompanyChirag: Founder, GoKwikDarshit: GP, Sparrow Capital 0:00 Coming Up1:14 Intro3:14 Building in India for the World - Key Considerations11:05 Going Global: SaaS and Consumer Companies17:39 Going Global: B2B vs B2C Considerations for VCs24:12 Going Global: Challenges Faced by B2B Companies29:28 Build in India and Scale Globally vs Build Directly for the World?36:42 Going Global: Product-led Growth vs Sales-led Growth 41:32 SaaS and Sales-Led Growth 47:09 Opportunities outside SaaS54:26 - Examining Trump’s Tariffs58:15 Tesla Entry in India1:03:03 Thoughts on India’s VC Ecosystem1:11:23 India to US for Venture Firms1:20:23 Cricket and the Sports IndustryRelevant links:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UO4ckdtjWCv3JTapthD-iBLuyh6E_Mgk/view?usp=drive_link

Mar 21, 2025 • 1h 26min
India's OG VC on Building for Bharat, ZERO CAC products & more from the India Insights Report
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: Founder, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving CompanyChirag: Founder, GoKwikAnand Lunia: GP, India Quotient0:00 Coming Up1:28 Intro and Welcome to Anand Lunia!2:46 Myths About India10:46 KukuFM - Monthly Works14:19 Zudio & 0 CAC18:31 India 1 vs Bharat VCs21:07 LendingKart 22:48 WhatsApp24:20 ShareChat25:45 UPI Autopay29:18 Ludo & Gaming38:00 FRND: Bharat Pays42:32 Google & Meta 44:40 Does India need its own Meta?46:51 AstroTalk47:48 Clarity50:14 Shoes for Women of Bharat52:23 Indian Masalas 53:08 Need for Manufacturing 54:31 Maruti55:38 Toys57:53 SaaS & Vyapaar1:02:03 Revenue or Efficiency for SAAS?1:05:57 Shoutout to Our Commenters!1:06:41 The Magic Recipe for Bharat1:08:10 AI for Bharat1:14:30 Thoughts on Talent 1:19:30 The Tech-Bro Overhead1:23:27 A Formula for TalentIndia Insights by India Quotient 2025 report: https://docsend.com/view/r8jxg7sr8nbhxfjg

Mar 7, 2025 • 1h 12min
Uber's New Subscription Model: What it Means for the Indian Startups & the Launch of CRED Cash+
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving CoChirag: CEO, GoKwik0:00 Coming Up1:19 Intro03:21 Uber's Subscription Model in India06:43 Analysis of Uber's Business Model10:41 The Evolution of Uber's Business Models in India17:27 Challenges for US Companies in India27:32 Ola's Market Position and IPO Considerations34:18 The Asymmetric Index39:43 The Rise of Cred and Its Innovative Products43:50 Understanding Cred's Unique Lending Model45:32 The Impact of Mutual Funds on Lending49:46 Risk and Reward in Youth Lending54:00 The Future of Lending and Credit Cards59:09 Book recommendations01:09:44 Concluding thoughtsLinks referred to in the episode:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FvbnpPc-F7atO_ulSe4qW2cvW7CJ4xVQ/view?usp=sharingThe ASYMMETRIC Index:http://asymmetric-web.vercel.app/

Feb 28, 2025 • 1h 20min
Decoding the Indus Valley 2025 Report with Co-Author Sajith Pai of Blume Ventures
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving CoChirag: CEO, GoKwikSajith Pai: VC at Blume Ventures, India1:00 Intro & Welcome to Sajith Pai!1:53 The Indus Valley Report 2025 - Reception So Far5:11 India’s Consumption Patterns - An Overview10:35 Consumption Trends Across India 1, 2, 315:53 India vs China Approach to Growth 18:33 Is Manufacturing the Only Playbook for Growth? 22:26 Are We Seeing a Manufacturing Boom?26:37 How Should Startups Think About India 1 vs India 2 and 3?29:04 What Is Stopping India From Seeing a Manufacturing Boom?35:29 Why Can’t the Indian Government Just Ban Certain Sectors?40:25 Is It Easy Setting Up Manufacturing in India?46:44 The VC Perspective on Manufacturing49:32 Expanding from India 1 to India 2 and 352:13 Q-Comm Growth Explained55:25 Who is Q-Comm Good For?64:20 State of the Indian Capital Market70:48 Pressures Faced by Venture Capitalists73:50 Concluding Thoughts75:39 How Does The Indus Valley Report Get Made?Indus Valley Report: https://docsend.com/view/pyxuqunkm9ejw38q

Feb 21, 2025 • 1h 7min
Samay Ranveer observations, Jio's mega OTT game, Honasa results and a sombre 2025 ahead
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving CoChirag: CEO, GoKwik0:00 Coming Up1:26 Intro & Something New!2:57 The Ranveer Allahbadia Controversy6:10 Behind the Scenes on this Controversy11:24 Why We Need Regulation for Content15:21 Liver King & Other Examples Making the Case for Regulation20:08 Conclusions on This Debate22:57 Jio-Hotstar - Behind the Scenes27:48 Does Jio Even Need Hotstar?34:13 Broader Implications of Jio-Hotstar 39:18 Changes in Social Media Algos44:35 Honasa (MamaEarth) Results 48:56 - How MamaEarth’s Assortment Impacts Its Revenue50:04 - MamaEarth’s Impact on Honasa Results53:06 The Importance of Industrialists & Innovators57:31 Responding to Comments1:04:48 BTSHonasa chart:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1f8de0gFFhemxZcBvblrLEqAXHsYtHU_7/view?usp=sharing

Feb 14, 2025 • 1h 15min
Shein’s Re-Entry in India, Nykaa and Delhivery FY25 Q3 Results, and WeWork India IPO
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving CoChirag: CEO, GoKwik0:00 Coming Up 1:15 Intro 3:39 Shein’s Global Success 9:34 Deep Dive Into Shein’s Re-entry in India 15:12 Who Will Take the Hit in Fashion in India? 19:57 Can Shein Crack Costs in India? 22:56 Nykaa’s FY25Q3 Results 28:16 Nykaa’s Biggest Challenge - Q-Com34:15 Why Isn’t Q-Com Big in China?36:48 Delhivery’s FY25Q3 Results 41:56 Should Delhivery Double Down on QComm? 46:25 WeWork India’s IPO - The Background 50:20 Why WeWork Made It in India 54:16 Different Co-Working Models & How They’ve Fared 01:02:44 Health Corner - Whoop’s Calorie Counter 01:06:05 Is Magnesium Addictive? 01:08:14 Whey & Protein in IndiaLinks referred to in the episode:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1M8-J9vUKPLPwXoZn8B7jjty057sPTEKw/view?usp=sharinghttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1pRrSSgnjxJk1m-MnED7-b7Wjf4CJdwl3/view?usp=drive_link

Feb 14, 2025 • 1h 3min
Swiggy vs Zomato Q3 Results, 10-min Food Delivery, India's 2025 Budget Impact, Weight Loss & Health
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving CoChirag: CEO, GoKwikAnkush Grover: Co-Founder Rebel Foods0:00 Coming Up1:10 Intro & Welcome to Ankush Grover!2:10 Swiggy Results Overview, vis a vis Zomato6:42 10-Min Food Delivery - How It Works13:35 Opportunity for Brands in the 10-Min Delivery Market19:06 What Comes After 10-Min Delivery?25:42 New Models in the Food Delivery Space27:17 Swiggy vs Zomato - Comparison of Key Metrics34:01 The Multiplier Effect of a Rs 100 Increase in AOV39:42 India’s 2025 Budget - Implications for the Economy45:10 Lessons from Ankush’s Weight Loss Journey52:53 Weighing In on Whey56:08 The Body is the Best Tracking Device57:42 Off-Screen BanterLinks referred to in the episode:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12gj5ucQ4--OWQe1q8U1IGmWRRq8xvAMV-fdC1EW_mUI/edit?usp=sharing

Feb 14, 2025 • 1h 23min
Exploring China's DeepSeek AI, Unlocking India's AI Potential, Wingify's $200mn Acquisition
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving CoChirag: CEO, GoKwikAakrit Vaish: Advisor INDIAai, Ex-CEO Haptik0:00 Coming Up1:06 Intro and Welcome Aakrit!2:35 DeepSeek - The Lesser Known Context09:45 Insights for India & Learnings from DeepSeek16:03 The Indian AI Ecosystem - What’s Missing?20:13 All About IndiaAI & What It Means for Founders and Builders24:23 New Opportunities for India with the Government’s Push32:23 The Real Cost of DeepSeek AI35:53 The Role of Academia in Economic Growth41:37 Examining the StarGate Announcement45:43 Wingify’s $200mn Buyout - A Non-Venture Path51:36 The 3 Market Types and Where VCs Are Needed1:08:59 EverStone and Wingify; Trends on Private Equity in India1:12:53 Health CornerLinks referred to in the episode:https://drive.google.com/file/d/15MfkTfodVHcyVoARdmXDWQvvd0h_8laZ/view?usp=drive_linkhttps://www.sequoiacap.com/article/pmf-framework/

Feb 14, 2025 • 1h 18min
Amazon-Axio & HUL-Minimalist Deals, Startup M&A implications, Zomato Q3, Juspay & PAPG Developments
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving CoChirag: CEO, GoKwikVikram Vaidyanathan: Managing Director at Z470:00 Coming Up1:23 Intro & Hello to Vikram Vaidyanathan2:39 Amazon-Axio Deal12:40 A Review of Buy Now Pay Later (BNPL) in India18:04 Strategic Investments & Minimalist’s Acquisition by Unilever23:20 Predictions on BNPL for Food Delivery30:15 Acquisitions – Good or Bad? Founders’ Perspective37:33 Bringing Together the Good and Bad on Acquisitions45:37 Zomato’s Q3 Results + Its Growth vs Profitability Framework51:40 The Impact of Zomato’s Result on Market Dynamics58:58 JusPay’s Orchestration Layer & What It Means for the FinTech Ecosystem01:09:52 Health CornerLinks referred to in the episode:https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/startups/amazon-acquires-fintech-lending-startup-axio/articleshow/117291725.cms?from=mdrhttps://juspay.io/blog/our-belief-in-an-ecosystem-that-fosters-diversity-interoperability-and-innovation (edited)

Feb 7, 2025 • 1h 3min
Swiggy vs Zomato Q3 Results, 10-min Food Delivery, India's 2025 Budget Impact, Weight Loss & Health
The ASYMMETRIC Crew today:Revant: CEO, Mosaic WellnessShantanu: Founder, Bombay Shaving CoChirag: CEO, GoKwikAnkush Grover: Co-Founder Rebel Foods0:00 Coming Up1:10 Intro & Welcome to Ankush Grover!2:10 Swiggy Results Overview, vis a vis Zomato6:42 10-Min Food Delivery - How It Works13:35 Opportunity for Brands in the 10-Min Delivery Market19:06 What Comes After 10-Min Delivery?25:42 New Models in the Food Delivery Space27:17 Swiggy vs Zomato - Comparison of Key Metrics34:01 The Multiplier Effect of a Rs 100 Increase in AOV39:42 India’s 2025 Budget - Implications for the Economy45:10 Lessons from Ankush’s Weight Loss Journey52:53 Weighing In on Whey56:08 The Body is the Best Tracking Device57:42 Off-Screen BanterLinks referred to in the episode:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12gj5ucQ4--OWQe1q8U1IGmWRRq8xvAMV-fdC1EW_mUI/edit?usp=sharing


