

The Mockingcast
Mockingbird
The Mockingcast is a bi-weekly podcast hosted by RJ Heijmen, Sarah Condon and David Zahl, and brought to you by Mockingbird Ministries, an organization which seeks to connect the Christian faith with the realities of everyday life in fresh and down-to-earth ways. You can find out more about Mockingbird at www.mbird.com.
Audio production provided by TJ Hester.
Audio production provided by TJ Hester.
Episodes
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Dec 8, 2025 • 1h 2min
Episode 287: All the Blessed Interruptions
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk advent calendars, perfectionist musicians, interrupting mothers, and the Batman effect. The gang also takes a field trip to an acute mental health ward across the pond.
Click here to respond to the opening appeal.
Click here to read Ellen Cushing's "Advent Calendars Are Totally Out of Control" in The Atlantic.
Click here to read "The Quest for Perfection Is Stunting Our Society" by Jonathan Biss in The NY Times.
Click here to read "Can You Stop?" by Heather Havrilesky on Ask Polly
Click here for the abstract of the study on The Batman Effect
Click here to read William Fagan's article on Mbird, "Advent Has a Purpose (Candle Lighting Isn't It)"

Nov 25, 2025 • 1h 7min
Episode 286: Miracle at the Body Shop
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk picky eaters, shameless monsters, wartime tragedies, and the uselessness of God. Also, RJ wets the bed (and never looks back).
Click here to listen to the recordings from the recent Mbird Conference in Charlottesville, VA.
Click here to read "In Defense of Picking Eating" by Irina Dumistrescu on Serious Eats.
Click here to read Belle Tindall's piece on Seen and Unseen, "We Needs a Sense of Shame -- But Need Mercy Even More."
Click here for more details about the 2026 NYC Mbird Conference (4/23-25).
Click here to read "The End of Ed Kochanowski's War" in The Boston Globe.
Click here to read "A (Reluctant) Living Testimony" by Amanda Geisinger on Mbird.

Nov 3, 2025 • 1h 2min
Episode 285: A Beautiful Day to Yell at God
In which RJ, Sarah and Dave talk intentional everything, morbid curiosity, Methodist exorcists, and Hollywood epiphanies. Also, Sarah praises her favorite horror film, while the boys gush about Task.
Click here to register for our Fall Conference in Charlottesville, VA (11/14&15)
Click here to read When Did Everything Become So ‘Intentional’? by Marie Solis in the NY Times
Click here to read The Perks of Morbid Curiosity by Coltan Scrivener in The Atlantic
Click here to read "Exponents of Falsehood" by Jason Micheli on Mbird
Click here to listen to the Mcast episode Sarah mentions, "What Am I Gonna Do About the Demons?"
Click here to read the interview with Anthony Hopkins in the NY Times
Click here to read "It's a Beautiful Day to Yell at God" by Sarah Condon on Mbird

Oct 14, 2025 • 1h 5min
Episode 284: The Telephone of Life
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk painless tattoos, workaholic scripts, sloppy social media, and Japanese lifesavers. Also, Sarah gets down with a theater full of fifth graders before singing with church full of Norwegians. Closing music courtesy of Voice of Joy.
Click here for more details about -- or to register for -- the Fall Mbird Conference in Charlottesville, VA (11/14&15).
Click here to read in the Atlantic about how "People Are Getting Tattoos Under Anesthesia."
Click here to watch the short film, Beneath the Ink.
Click here to read "If I Work Harder, Will You Love Me?" by Arthur Brooks in the Atlantic.
Click here to read "We Are the Slop" by Freya India in the After Babel newsletter.
Click here to read Dave's piece "Grace in a Time of Line-Drawing and Statement-Making" on Mbird.
Click here to read about "The Pastor Who Rescues People from Japan’s ‘Suicide Cliff’" by Kazusa Okaya in Christianity Today.
Click here to find out more about Voice of Joy, the Norwegian gospel choir Sarah mentions who also close the show.

Sep 29, 2025 • 1h 5min
Episode 283: The Ol' Telling the Truth Trick
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk silent retreats, repentant writing, alien mercy, and Hallmark movies. Also, RJ goes Confucian while Dave spitballs a new kind of Dry January.
Click here to read Ben Brasch's article "Silent Retreats Are Surging in Popularity" in the Washington Post.
Click here to read Lauren Jackson's newsletter on "The Pscyhological Value of Repentance" in the NY Times.
Click here to read Sarah's "Grace in an Age of Vengeance" on Mbird.
Click here to read Ashley Hales's interview with Elizabeth Bruenig in Christianity Today, "Alien Mercy."
Click here to read Elizabeth Bruenig's lengthy essay "Witness" in The Atlantic.
Click here to read Matt Metevelis's piece on Mbird "The Gospel Is Not Your Happy Ending."
Click here for more information about, or to pre-register for, the Fall Mbird Conference in Charlottesville, VA (Nov 14&15).

Sep 15, 2025 • 1h 3min
Episode 282: Do It Afraid
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk predatory advice-giving, suspicious mission statements, unloving algorithms, and atoning physicians. Also, Dave's son wins a big award.
Click here to read Russell Shaw's article in the Atlantic, "When Your Kid’s Best Friend Is a Great Big Problem."
Click here to read the NY Times interview with Brene Brown.
Click here to read NBW's "Sufficiently Suspicious" newsletter.
Click here to read "Excuses, Excuses" by Sam Bush on Mbird.
Click here to read "A Family Doctor's Search for Salvation" in the New Yorker.

Sep 1, 2025 • 1h 5min
Episode 281: Fluffy Pens and Perfectionist Pain
In the season premiere, RJ, Sarah and Dave talk nightmare summers, tween retailers, ethical checklists, and the deadliest addiction of all. We also learn the whole point of Sarah.
Click here to read Dave's post on "Lessons from a (Miserable) Summer on Crutches".
Click here to read Ellen Cushing's "What Claire's Once Gave Tween Girls" on The Atlantic.
Click here to read "The Pain of Perfectionsism" by Leslie Jamison on The New Yorker.
Click here to read "Bad Brains" by James Kimmel Jr on Slate.
Click here to read "Jesus Doesn't Care When You Wake Up" by Todd Brewer on Mbird.
Click here for more details -- or to pre-register -- for the Fall Mockingbird Conference in Charlottesville, VA (Nov 14&15).

Jul 15, 2025 • 49min
Bonus Episode: "The Hawaiian Shirt Guy at at Wedding" from Terrible Parables
Mockingcasters looking for something to listen to while the crew is on summner hiatus, look no further! We're cross-posting the first episode of the new season of our Terrible Parables podcast, "The Hawaiian Shirt Guy at a Wedding" in which long time Mockingbird contributors Cali Yee, Todd Brewer and Bryan Jarrell parse the parable of the Wedding Banquet that Jesus tells in Matthew 22:1-14.
Listen to more episodes of Terrible Parables on Spotify
Listen to more episodes of Terrible Parables on Apple
Click here to order a copy of the Law & Gospel issue of The Mockingbird Magazine

May 27, 2025 • 1h 6min
Episode 279: We Are All Nepo Babies
In their last episode before the summer hiatus, RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk afternoon pop-ins, cigarette nostalgia, do-gooder derogation, and rejected generations. Also, RJ watches Cobra Kai while Sarah's son (thankfully) opts not to take over the world.
To respond to the opening appeal, visit www.mbird.com/support.
Click here to read Patricia Shannon's column, "Let's Bring Back the Lost Art of the Afternoon Visit" in Southern Living
Click here to read Vox's Future Perfect newsletter about do-gooder derogation by Sigal Samuel
Click here to read David Brooks' article "We Are the Most Rejected Generation" in the NY Times
Click here to read "Nepo Babies and the Economy of Grace" by Chris Wachter on Mbird
The closing song, used with permission, is "Miracle Service" by Andy Squyres, which you can find on Spotify, YouTube, and Apple

May 12, 2025 • 1h 1min
Episode 278: Big Joe Breaks the Silence
In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk marketing trauma, cultural decline, and the pluses and minuses of the silent treatment. Also, Sarah goes on a date to WalMart, while RJ tries real hard to be the shepherd.
Click here to read Ellen Cushing's article "The Brands Are Very Sorry About Your Trauma."
Click here to read Is This the Worst-Ever Era of American Pop Culture? by Spencer Kornhaber.
Click here to read "Deafening Silence" by Sam Bush on Mbird.
Click here to read David Marchese's interview with Ocean Vuong in the NY Times.


