
4sight Health Roundup (for Healthcare Executives)
Your best 20 minutes this week, where outcomes matter, customers count and value rules. Hear analysis of the crucial market-based healthcare news and speculation for the week ahead. The customer revolution in healthcare comes alive in this must-listen podcast for forward-thinking healthcare executives.
David Burda, 4sight Health’s news editor, hosts with commentary from David Johnson, 4sight Health’s CEO, and Julie Murchinson, Partner at Transformation Capital. Join the Customer Revolution!
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Latest episodes

Jul 3, 2025 • 22min
Who Will Feel the Impact of the Budget Bill?
Republicans lit the fuse and will run away. How should the healthcare market prepare for the blast? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchison discussed how the healthcare market should prepare itself on, “Who Will Feel the Impact of the Budget Bill?,” a special episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Jun 26, 2025 • 28min
Providers, Public Health, and Sugary Drinks
How can providers and the public health system help parents get their children off the juice? David W. Johnson and special guest Ann Somers Hogg debate the roles of providers and the public health system to help on, “Providers, Public Health, and Sugary Drinks,” the latest episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda. Listen.Learn more about why America’s kids are drowning in sugar from Ann Somers Hogg and the Christensen Institute.

Jun 19, 2025 • 19min
Are You What Your Genetic Material Says You Are?
David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson revisit the collapse of 23andMe in light of the sale of the direct-to-consumer genetic testing company and the 25th anniversary of the Human Genome Project on this special episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Jun 12, 2025 • 27min
When Will AI Adoption by Providers Meet AI Acceptance by Patients?
Adoption of artificial intelligence tools by healthcare providers is growing. When will people start to adopt? 4sight Health’s David W. Johnson and Robert Pearl, M.D., former CEO of the Permanente Medical Group, debate the acceptance and adoption of artificial intelligence tools in healthcare by providers and patients on, “When Will AI Adoption by Providers Meet AI Acceptance by Patients?” this special episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

Jun 5, 2025 • 18min
How to Stop Childhood Vaccine Rates From Dropping
A new study sounded the public health alarm bells on declining childhood vaccine rates. How can the private sector step up as the federal government abdicates its role? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson share their ideas on how to help reverse the trend on “How to Stop Childhood Vaccine Rates from Dropping,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

May 29, 2025 • 21min
Preventing Excess Deaths in the U.S.
A new study says the U.S. is racing ahead of other high-income countries in the number of "excess," or unnecessary deaths. David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson share their ideas on what the healthcare system do about it on, “Preventing Excess Deaths in the U.S.,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

May 22, 2025 • 23min
CMMI Pursues an Ounce of Prevention
The new iteration of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation promises to focus on health, not healthcare. Will its plans come to fruition? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson graded CMMI's new strategic direction on, “CMMI Pursues an Ounce of Prevention,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda

May 15, 2025 • 19min
Critiquing Trump's Latest Plan to Lower Drug Prices
Will Trump's executive order aimed at lowering drug prices for consumers be a ripple or a bang? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson debate the issue on, “Critiquing Trump's Latest Plan to Lower Drug Prices,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

May 8, 2025 • 15min
Hal Andrews on the Biggest Trends Reshaping the Healthcare Economy
President and CEO of Trilliant Health Hal Andrews shares his biggest takeaways from Trilliant’s new report, 2024 Trends Shaping the Health Economy. What made him pessimistic? What made him optimistic? Find out, "How Healthcare Revolutionaries Think With Hal Andrews," on the 4sight Health Roundup podcast.

May 1, 2025 • 19min
Putting Together the Pieces
Vertical integration and healthcare platforms. Are they good for healthcare consumers or just good for healthcare conglomerates? David W. Johnson and Julie Murchinson discuss the pros and cons and who benefits from them on, “Putting Together the Pieces,” the new episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.