

In The Margins
Diverse Education
Achieving equality in higher education. The stakes have never been higher. The issues never more complex. Who graduates, and why? Who is getting hired as faculty and what is their experience?
In each episode, we will look at issues surrounding students, faculty, diversity and inclusion, and skyrocketing college costs.
From critical conversation to news, numbers, and analysis — we've got you covered. You can count on Diverse's In The Margins to bring you the latest, most relevant thought leadership as it pertains to diversity, inclusion, and equity in higher education. As the national expert, we've been doing this for almost 40 years in print and on the web (diverseeducation.com). Now we are excited to expand the conversation via this podcast.
We will tackle these topics, and more, head-on. Listen weekly for a mix of deep dives, short briefs, expert panels, interviews, and more. We are thrilled to bring it to you here, in In The Margins.
In each episode, we will look at issues surrounding students, faculty, diversity and inclusion, and skyrocketing college costs.
From critical conversation to news, numbers, and analysis — we've got you covered. You can count on Diverse's In The Margins to bring you the latest, most relevant thought leadership as it pertains to diversity, inclusion, and equity in higher education. As the national expert, we've been doing this for almost 40 years in print and on the web (diverseeducation.com). Now we are excited to expand the conversation via this podcast.
We will tackle these topics, and more, head-on. Listen weekly for a mix of deep dives, short briefs, expert panels, interviews, and more. We are thrilled to bring it to you here, in In The Margins.
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Sep 22, 2022 • 59min
EP 91: The Return on Investment in Hispanic-Serving Institutions with HACU's Dr. Antonio R. Flores
In this episode, your host Ralph Newell welcomes Antonio R. Flores, president and CEO of the Hispanic Association of Colleges and Universities (HACU) for over twenty-five years. Dr. Flores is a leading voice of Hispanic-Serving Institutions (HSIs) whose advocacy efforts have garnered over $4 billion in federal funding for HSIs, an investment he explains as a win-win for America, the new economy, and underserved populations. Tune in as Dr. Antonio R. Flores discusses what equity means for HACU and why funding HSIs is a question of public and national interest that Congress needs to address as quickly as possible. KEY POINTS: - What is the history of HACU and some of the challenges it faces? - Why it is NECESSARY for America to invest in HSIs. - Should community college be free? - The Loan Forgiveness Program's impact on the Latino community. - What does equity mean for HSIs? - The diversity of HSIs and interlocking resources with other minority-serving institutions. QUOTABLES: "More than half of all the new population added to America was made up of Hispanics. So, the future of the country is very clearly moving in that direction. The investments required to support these very fast-growing underserved populations not only need but truly deserve immediate action on the part of Congress." "These institutions not only are educating the majority of Latinos and other underserved populations, but they really are becoming the backbone of that labor force that we need for the new economy, for this educated labor force." OTHER RESOURCES: HACU- Hispanic Association of Colleges and Universities (hacu.net) PRODUCTS / RESOURCES: Watch this video and others on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/user/Diversediversedivers Visit the Diverse: Issues In Higher Education website: diverseeducation.com Or follow us on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/diverseissues Instagram: instagram.com/diverseissuesinhighereducation Facebook: facebook.com/DiverseIssuesInHigherEducation/ Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/diverse-issues-in-higher-education Transcription services are available upon request. Please drop us a line here. In The Margins is produced by Diverse: Issues In Higher Education and edited by Instapodcasts (visit at instapodcasts.com)

Sep 15, 2022 • 38min
EP 90: Addressing the Leadership Gap for Women of Color in Higher Education with Gloria Blackwell
In this episode, host David Pluviose sits down with Gloria Blackwell, CEO of the American Association of University Women (AAUW), a nonprofit advancing gender equity through advocacy, education, and research. As only the second Black woman in 140 years to lead AAUW, Gloria discusses the importance of representation in STEM and higher ed leadership as well as living the values of diversity, equity, and inclusion within her own organization. KEY POINTS: - Gloria Blackwell's path to leadership in the AAUW - The unique vantage point Gloria provides as an African American woman - AAUW's strategies, initiatives, and vision to achieve "equity for all" - The student loan debt crisis, specific to Black women - How to increase opportunities for women in STEM fields - An institution's responsibility to commit to equity in higher education QUOTABLES: "Representation is so important for young women, girls, and boys - to see that African American women can step up as leaders and that our perspectives are incredibly valued." "We are doing research around so many of the topics we have been working on for decades that we thought by now would have reached a solution, that would have provided a greater sense of equity for women. And it just hasn't come true." "The promise of economic security, the promise that if you get a higher education degree and what that will mean, it's certainly not come to fruition. A black woman with a bachelor's degree on average earns less than a white man with a high school education." OTHER RESOURCES: About Gloria Blackwell - aauw.org/about/leadership/gloria-l-blackwell AAUW's CEO Gloria Blackwell: "There Needs to Be a Reckoning." - diverseeducation.com/leadership-policy/article/15291195/there-needs-to-be-a-reckoning-aauws-ceo-gloria-blackwell-on-gender-equity-in-higher-education-leadership PRODUCTS / RESOURCES: Watch this video and others on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/user/Diversediversedivers Visit the Diverse: Issues In Higher Education website: diverseeducation.com Or follow us on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/diverseissues Instagram: instagram.com/diverseissuesinhighereducation Facebook: facebook.com/DiverseIssuesInHigherEducation/ Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/diverse-issues-in-higher-education Transcription services are available upon request. Please drop us a line here. In The Margins is produced by Diverse: Issues In Higher Education and edited by Instapodcasts (visit at instapodcasts.com)

Aug 25, 2022 • 34min
EP 89: Tackling Student Debt Burdens in Higher Education with Dr. Erika Moore
While much has been said about the need and desire to diversify STEM fields and attract more minorities to faculty positions in higher education, there is little discussion on the financial journey to academia and the debt it often incurs. In this episode, David Pluviose welcomes Dr. Erika Moore, assistant professor in the Department of Material Science and Engineering at the University of Florida. Moore is also founder of Moore Wealth, a nonprofit organization dedicated to empowerment through financial literacy. Tune in as Moore shares her journey to the academy as an underrepresented minority and what needs to be done at the institutional and federal levels to tackle the mountain of student debt awaiting many graduates. KEY POINTS: - Erika Moore's journey to STEM and the academy - Why is there a shortage of diverse faculty in higher education? - Recruitment and retention - Erika's experience as a new professor - How cultivating a sense of community is key for faculty success - "Money speaks louder than words" - What is Moore Wealth, and why was it created? QUOTABLES: "We want diverse faculty. But there are these major financial barriers that limit the majority of people from underrepresented or historically excluded backgrounds from pursuing these jobs. Because who can take 10 years making far below what they could earn with their degree, to pursue this higher goal of becoming a professor?" "If you want to support changing the culture and climate of your university, you need to put your money where your mouth is." OTHER RESOURCES: Dr. Erika Moore: mse.ufl.edu/people/name/erika-moore Moore Wealth: moorewealth.org PRODUCTS / RESOURCES: Watch this video and others on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/user/Diversediversedivers Visit the Diverse: Issues In Higher Education website: diverseeducation.com Or follow us on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/diverseissues Instagram: instagram.com/diverseissuesinhighereducation Facebook: facebook.com/DiverseIssuesInHigherEducation/ Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/diverse-issues-in-higher-education Transcription services are available upon request. Please drop us a line here. In The Margins is produced by Diverse: Issues In Higher Education and edited by Instapodcasts (visit at instapodcasts.com)

Aug 18, 2022 • 30min
EP 88: Filling the Gaps in Equity between Higher Education and the Workplace
This year the University of Phoenix (UOPX) and Jobs for the Future (JFF) announced a partnership to drive the equitable economic advancement of Black leaders and workers. With funding from UOPX, JFF will conduct in-depth research analyzing existing strategies for developing social capital currently implemented by higher education institutions and employers. This work will inform the creation of an evidence-based, actionable framework and raise awareness about how professional social capital contributes to economic advancement of minority groups. Tune in as Dr. Jamal Watson sits down with Michael Collins, vice president of JFF, and Dr. Kimberly Underwood, associate faculty member and research chair at UOPX. KEY POINTS: - What is social capital? And why is it so critical? - The missing piece in the college mobility narrative - Why we need to look at social capital as a collective process - How the partnership between JFF and UOPX evolved - Filling the gaps in equity in higher education and the workplace QUOTABLES: "In the case of the JFF and University of Phoenix partnership, we care most about is what we call professional social capital. It's this kind of social capital that provides access and opportunity in the labor market. The kind of relationships that are conducive to information about opportunities and also even action." OTHER RESOURCES: Jobs for the Future Awarded $5 Million to Assist Young Adults Access Apprenticeships: diverseeducation.com/leadership-policy/article/15295314/jobs-for-the-future-awarded-5-million-to-assist-young-adults-access-apprenticeships?utm_campaign=5869&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Eloqua PRODUCTS / RESOURCES: Watch this video and others on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/user/Diversediversedivers Visit the Diverse: Issues In Higher Education website: diverseeducation.com Or follow us on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/diverseissues Instagram: instagram.com/diverseissuesinhighereducation Facebook: facebook.com/DiverseIssuesInHigherEducation/ Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/diverse-issues-in-higher-education Transcription services are available upon request. Please drop us a line here. In The Margins is produced by Diverse: Issues In Higher Education and edited by Instapodcasts (visit at instapodcasts.com)

Aug 11, 2022 • 1h 2min
EP 87: Dear White America with Tim Wise
In the third installment of our series on white fragility and nationalism in higher education, Ralph Newell welcomes writer and activist Tim Wise. As one of the nation's most prominent anti-racist essayists, educators, philanthropists, and philosophers, tune in as this "vanilla brother" discusses what created the perfect storm for white anxiety; its long-term ramifications; how white privilege manifests in higher education; and what we, as allies, can do better. KEY POINTS: - What drove Tim Wise to activism? - Where does white American anxiety come from? - The toxicity of white privilege to white people - White privilege and nationalism in higher education - The state of race education in the classroom today QUOTABLES: "When you're used to hegemony, pluralism feels like oppression." "Privilege keeps us unsafe, lets us down, gives us an advantage at first psychologically and maybe even materially. But in the long run, it comes back to haunt us." "If you're feeling guilty about being white, it is because you are learning about the wrong white people." GUEST RESOURCES: Learn more about Tim Wise: speakoutnow.org/speaker/wise-tim diverseeducation.com/institutions/article/15290794/university-of-phoenix-kicks-off-inaugural-inclusive-leadership-summit PRODUCTS / RESOURCES: Watch this video and others on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/user/Diversediversedivers Visit the Diverse: Issues In Higher Education website: diverseeducation.com Or follow us on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/diverseissues Instagram: instagram.com/diverseissuesinhighereducation Facebook: facebook.com/DiverseIssuesInHigherEducation/ Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/diverse-issues-in-higher-education Transcription services are available upon request. Please drop us a line here. In The Margins is produced by Diverse: Issues In Higher Education and edited by Instapodcasts (visit at instapodcasts.com)

Aug 4, 2022 • 36min
EP 86: The Plum Tree Blossoms Even in Winter with Dr. M. Roy Wilson
In this episode, your host David Pluviose is joined by Dr. M. Roy Wilson, president of Wayne State University and author of The Plum Tree Blossoms Even in Winter. Tune in as Wilson discusses the decision and impact of painting a vivid portrait of his background and metaphor for resilience, hope, and perseverance in his new memoir. He also explores racial and socio-economic disparities, how such disparities affect minority populations, and the potential for filling the academic pipeline with underrepresented minorities, specifically when it comes to medicine. KEY POINTS: - The significance and impact of Dr. M. Roy Wilson's memoir - Why the title: The Plum Tree Blossoms Even in Winter? - Mentorship and paying it forward - What COVID-19 revealed about systemic racism and health disparities - Increasing the pipeline of black academics, particularly in medicine QUOTABLES: "Regardless of how challenging the situation may be, how dark the time may be, just like the plum tree that blossoms in the darkest, coldest time of the year, there's a way forward to persevere and make it out." GUEST RESOURCES: About M. Roy Wilson: president.wayne.edu/about PRODUCTS / RESOURCES: Watch this video and others on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/user/Diversediversedivers Visit the Diverse: Issues In Higher Education website: diverseeducation.com Or follow us on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/diverseissues Instagram: instagram.com/diverseissuesinhighereducation Facebook: facebook.com/DiverseIssuesInHigherEducation/ Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/diverse-issues-in-higher-education Transcription services are available upon request. Please drop us a line here. In The Margins is produced by Diverse: Issues In Higher Education and edited by Instapodcasts (visit at instapodcasts.com)

Jul 28, 2022 • 55min
Ep 85: Closing the Data Skills Gap with Dr. Melody S. Goodman
Today's episode is brought to you by Tableau. As an industry leader, Tableau has committed to enabling 10 million people with data skills over the next five years. As part of our Tableau series on the importance of data skills in education, your host Ralph Newell sits down with Dr. Melody S. Goodman, Associate Dean for Research and Associate Professor of Biostatistics at the School of Global Public Health at New York University. Tune in as Dr. Melody S. Goodman speaks to data as the world's greatest commodity and why everyone should understand how it works. But you don't have to be a data scientist to have data literacy! Learn how you can help close the data skills gap and hear Dr. Goodman's experiences incorporating data skills into her community's education and the impact it's having. KEY POINTS: - Data is now the world's most valuable resource - Why data literacy is important, especially for students - The ethical issue behind data analysis - Are we at a data skills deficit in the classroom? - How to help increase data literacy in BIPOC students - Tapping into the genius of low-income communities QUOTABLES: "Whoever does the analysis is essentially the narrator. They're telling the story, right? And they're telling the story from their perspective. And in many cases, data scientists and statisticians are not black and brown folks." "It is highly unlikely that all of the genius in this country comes out of the suburbs. You don't believe that there's genius in our ghettos and barrios and our reservations, as much as there is in our suburbs?" GUEST RESOURCES: Tableau: Business Intelligence and Analytics Software (tableau.com) Other Tableau sponsored episodes: Part 1: Why are Data Skills Important? Air date: July 21 PRODUCTS / RESOURCES: Watch this video and others on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/user/Diversediversedivers Visit the Diverse: Issues In Higher Education website: diverseeducation.com Or follow us on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/diverseissues Instagram: instagram.com/diverseissuesinhighereducation Facebook: facebook.com/DiverseIssuesInHigherEducation/ Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/diverse-issues-in-higher-education Transcription services are available upon request. Please drop us a line here. In The Margins is produced by Diverse: Issues In Higher Education and edited by Instapodcasts (visit at instapodcasts.com)

Jul 21, 2022 • 57min
EP 84: Why are Data Skills Important?
Today's episode is brought to you by Tableau, an industry leader committed to enabling 10 million people with data skills over the next five years. As part of our Tableau series on the importance of data skills in education, and more specifically for BIPOC students, your host Ralph Newell sits down with Vanessa G. Leon from the University of Texas El Paso's College of Business Administration and Allen Hillery, vice president of communities and impact at Data Stories. Hear from Leon, who is responsible for overseeing the partnerships and programming for three of the college's corporate academies and is kicking off their data skills journey. Hillery empowers people and communities around the world to eliminate misinformation and create positive change using words, data, and visualizations. Don't miss this informative discussion on the necessity of data literacy, why students of color got left behind in data science, and the immediate need to bring data skills into education. KEY POINTS: - What is data and how is it used by companies and organizations? - Why is data science so important for BIPOC students? - How to bring data literacy into K-12 education and communities - Supporting BIPOC students in fields where there is little to no representation - The importance of business intelligence and communication skills - Tableau's initiatives to help their students "catch up" in data science QUOTABLES: "It's also educating the students because half of the challenge is seeing yourself. A lot of times you don't see yourself, so you don't understand what you could be there." "What's been opening doors for us in a lot of fields are alumni. There's always that one student that did not think that they could get a job at Microsoft, right, but they land that job. And now they become an advocate." GUEST RESOURCES: Tableau: Business Intelligence and Analytics Software Data Stories: Home | DataStories a Partners in Performance Company PRODUCTS / RESOURCES: Watch this video and others on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/user/Diversediversedivers Visit the Diverse: Issues In Higher Education website: diverseeducation.com Or follow us on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/diverseissues Instagram: instagram.com/diverseissuesinhighereducation Facebook: facebook.com/DiverseIssuesInHigherEducation/ Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/diverse-issues-in-higher-education Transcription services are available upon request. Please drop us a line here. In The Margins is produced by Diverse: Issues In Higher Education and edited by Instapodcasts (visit at instapodcasts.com)

Jul 14, 2022 • 51min
EP 83: White Fragility with Dr. Robin DiAngelo
In this episode, Ralph Newell is joined by Dr. Robin DiAngelo, affiliate associate professor of education at the University of Washington and author of White Fragility: Why It's So Hard For White People To Talk About Racism, which was released in June 2018 and debuted on The New York Times Bestsellers List, where it remained for over three years. Tune in as Dr. Robin DiAngelo discusses what "white fragility" is and why, while society's racial inequality is not the fault of white people individually, it is the individual's responsibility to help address it. KEY POINTS: - Dr. Robin DiAngelo's path to racial and social justice education - Being white and poor versus being black and poor - Is white the default? - Why racial illiteracy is not benign, neutral, or innocent - What is white fragility? - Does everyone have racist tendencies or bias? QUOTABLES: "When people say that learning about enslavement causes white children to feel guilt, why do you assume the white child can only identify with the slaveholder?" "A hallmark of white homes is that we certainly are not educated on our racial history. We know that and the efforts that are at play today will make it literally illegal for us to be educated on our racial history." "The ultimate goal is that we come together across these divides. But white people are not in great shape to do that. We are racially illiterate. Most of us can't even answer the question, what does it mean to be white. Then you throw us in a room together and say, 'let's talk about race and racism,' and a lot of damage gets done." GUEST RESOURCES: Learn more about Dr. Robin DiAngelo: robindiangelo.com PRODUCTS / RESOURCES: Watch this video and others on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/user/Diversediversedivers Visit the Diverse: Issues In Higher Education website: diverseeducation.com Or follow us on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/diverseissues Instagram: instagram.com/diverseissuesinhighereducation Facebook: facebook.com/DiverseIssuesInHigherEducation/ Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/diverse-issues-in-higher-education Transcription services are available upon request. Please drop us a line here. In The Margins is produced by Diverse: Issues In Higher Education and edited by Instapodcasts (visit at instapodcasts.com)

Jul 7, 2022 • 55min
EP 82: The Invention of White People with Dr. Jacqueline Battalora
"Some folks say white people have no business being in this work. But, you know, we have to be, and it's a job that you want to work yourself out of." In this episode, Ralph Newell is joined by Dr. Jacqueline Battalora, author of Birth of a White Nation: The Invention of White People and Its Relevance Today. Battalora is an attorney and professor of sociology at Saint Xavier University in Chicago. Tune in as they discuss "whiteness," the taboo of privilege, and the importance of understanding the truth of our history as well as the distressing implications the overturning of Roe v. Wade may have on our constitutional rights around race. KEY POINTS: - Dr. Jacqueline Battalora's journey to diversity, equity, and inclusion work - What does the term "whiteness" really mean? - Why are white people considered the norm? - How was whiteness invented and why does it matter today? - White replacement theory and DEI education - What does it mean to be an ally? QUOTABLES: "I think we have to be really clear about what we mean by whiteness. Malcolm X referred to whiteness not as a complexion, but as a state of consciousness." "White people really are just submerged as the norm. So I become the norm against which all other racial groups are measured against and considered in relation to." "Let me address one thing that I often hear, which is the whole 'preaching to the choir'. I don't know of any choir that doesn't need daily practice." GUEST RESOURCES: Learn more about Jacqueline Battalora: https://www.speakoutnow.org/speaker/jacqueline-battalora PRODUCTS / RESOURCES: Watch this video and others on our YouTube channel: youtube.com/user/Diversediversedivers Visit the Diverse: Issues In Higher Education website: diverseeducation.com Or follow us on social media: Twitter: twitter.com/diverseissues Instagram: instagram.com/diverseissuesinhighereducation Facebook: facebook.com/DiverseIssuesInHigherEducation/ Linkedin: linkedin.com/company/diverse-issues-in-higher-education Transcription services are available upon request. Please drop us a line here. In The Margins is produced by Diverse: Issues In Higher Education and edited by Instapodcasts (visit at instapodcasts.com)


