HR Leader Podcast Network

The fierce debate over flexible work arrangements shows no signs of slowing down, thrust into the spotlight by the recent Australian federal election and high-profile corporate mandates. In this episode of The HR Leader Podcast, Host Kace O’Neill sits down with Neal Woolrich, director in Gartner’s HR Advisory team, to navigate the complex terrain of post-pandemic work. Woolrich, drawing on his unique background spanning journalism, tax advisory, and nearly a decade at Gartner, issues a stark warning: the push for rigid five-day office returns is fraught with significant talent and business risks, potentially crippling engagement and productivity. Woolrich cautions that enforcing strict return-to-office (RTO) mandates can backfire spectacularly. Employees, he argues, quickly see through hollow justifications linking office presence directly to productivity or culture. The real key, he emphasises, isn’t location but fostering a collaborative team environment. Beyond the RTO tug of war, Woolrich identifies critical missed opportunities, particularly the persistent reluctance to embrace proven flexible models like the four-day work week – despite compelling productivity data and employee demand. He attributes this stagnation partly to an “old-school mindset” prevalent among senior leaders, even as C-suite turnover rises potentially due to inflexibility. Looking ahead, Woolrich predicts hybrid work patterns in Australia will stabilise around 50 per cent, urging HR to champion human-centric design, ensure consistent policy application (especially as one in three organisations lack RTO compliance mechanisms), and build coalitions of progressive leaders to drive meaningful change.

The NSW government’s proposed overhaul of the workers’ compensation scheme has ignited fierce debate. In this recent episode of the HR Leader Podcast, host Kace O’Neill sits down with Chantille Khoury, partner and practice group leader for workers’ compensation at Law Partners, to dissect the draft reforms and their potentially seismic impact. Khoury details how the reforms would devastate support for psychological injuries, revealing a statistic about the proposed 31 per cent whole-person impairment (WPI). Khoury addresses the narrow injury definitions excluding burnout/work pressure, claiming that these changes abandon vulnerable workers while ignoring root causes. Beyond statistics, Khoury warns of reforms exacerbating mental health crises: drawn-out processes, surveillance paranoia, and inaccessible legal hurdles could deepen trauma. While acknowledging system sustainability concerns, she proposes alternatives. The episode closes with a stark question: Will NSW fix the scheme or sacrifice worker welfare in the rush? At the time of this episode’s recording, a key policy proposal put forward by the NSW government, which included workers having to obtain court verification from the IRC when seeking compensation for bullying, racial abuse, or sexual harassment, has since been removed.

In the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, working life has changed significantly. Now, research is starting to identify certain professional and environmental trends that businesses need to be on top of. In this episode of The HR Leader Podcast, host Jerome Doraisamy is joined by the founding board director of R U OK?, Graeme Cowan, to discuss why uncertainty is so prevalent in workplaces in the current climate, why the proliferation of remote and flexible working is a worrying development, the varying levels of trust in the workforce and why it is damaging, a decline in employee engagement and the consequences of not paying attention to that lack of engagement, and the ongoing wellbeing and mental health crisis. Cowan also delves into the broader business considerations inherent with addressing wellbeing concerns, why the wellbeing focus isn’t working, how and why more managers want out of their workplaces, how business leaders can better support managers, why change leadership needs to improve, and the decline of respect in the workplace.

In this special episode of The HR Leader Podcast, we showcase one of the headline speakers for the upcoming Bold Ideas in HR event, Taylor Dee Hawkins, about the moral and commercial imperatives to best practice with management of a workforce that is more diverse than ever before and the benefits that come with it. Host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with Taylor Dee Hawkins, the Foundations for Tomorrow managing director, about the work that she does, the extent to which business leaders are ready and able to lead so many different generations in the workforce, leaders’ cognisance of the need to do so, the dangers in not properly managing workers of all ages, the questions that businesses need to ask of themselves, and the practical steps to be taken. To learn more about Bold Ideas in HR, click here.

In this special episode of The HR Leader Podcast, we showcase one of the headline speakers for the upcoming Bold Ideas in HR event, Kylie Fuller, about whether diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) remains good business or rightly under the microscope. Host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with Kylie Fuller, the managing director of Fuller Potential, about her work, why it is important to take stock of where we’re at with DEI practices in the workplace, why it is necessary to ensure that DEI remains fit for purpose, whether Australia is an inflection point for DEI (like in the US), and whether she is optimistic that we can have productive conversations about the way forward. To learn more about Bold Ideas in HR, click here.

In this special episode of The HR Leader Podcast, we showcase one of the headline speakers for the upcoming Bold Ideas in HR event, Steve Glaveski, about whether Elon Musk was right to fire four in five Twitter (now X) employees. Host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with Glaveski, the CEO and co-founder of Collective Campus, about his corporate innovation consultancy and start-up accelerator and why he does this work, why it’s important to explore whether or not Elon Musk should have fired so many Twitter employees, why HR managers and C-suite professionals need to be examining whether such an approach is necessary for their businesses, why inaction is not an option in the current climate, and whether he is optimistic that Australian business leaders can draw the right lessons from Musk’s Twitter experience. To learn more about Bold Ideas in HR, click here.

In the current climate, businesses are seeing less need for middle managers – this is not only concerning for those professionals but also detrimental to long-term business health. In this episode of The HR Leader Podcast, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with BoldHR founder Rebecca Houghton about the work she does and why it’s meaningful, the emergence of the Great Flattening, its implications for the workforce, the outsized impact that middle managers have, why businesses misunderstand the impact that middle managers have, and moving past inaccurate perceptions. Houghton also delves into how Australian businesses are reacting to this trend, being perceived as fiscal bloat, how lower-level employees are exacerbating this trend, what we’ve learnt from previous instances of this workplace trend, the consequences of the current iteration of the trend, and the questions and practical steps that businesses need to ask and implement respectively.

In the face of voluminous market and cultural change, the ways in which recruiters and hiring managers operate need to evolve, one professional argues. In this episode of The HR Leader Podcast, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with TRC chief executive Geoff Millar about his background in recruitment, why it’s been a meaningful career path, the peaks and troughs he’s seen in the recruitment space, what the current careers landscape looks like, why recruiters need to re-evaluate the ways they do things, and whether approaches with businesses are becoming outdated. Millar also discusses the dangers of falling behind on new-age thinking, questions to ask of a business in order to improve approaches to recruitment, practical steps to be taken, and what is exciting about such change for hiring managers and recruiters.

Here, a leading employment and labour lawyer reflects on what we’ve learnt in the last year and a half from the Secure Jobs, Better Pay legislative changes and what it all means for the market moving forward. In this episode of The HR Leader Podcast, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with Norton Rose Fulbright partner Alexandra Shields about her work in employment and labour law, the “human element” of such legal practice, what the recent Secure Jobs, Better Pay amendments are and why they were introduced, the key takeaways from the last 12 to 18 months following the passage of the amendments, and the issues and challenges that have arisen. Shields also delves into how best to respond to those issues and challenges, the more encouraging developments from the last 12 to 18 months, whether developments in the market can be attributed to the amended legislation, why changing the employment and labour market is a longer-term project, going by the “vibes”, how employers should respond to the current climate, considering their reputations, and what is best practice for lawyers in this space moving forward.

With political polarisation on the rise worldwide and with Australia’s federal election less than a fortnight away, it is fundamental that business leaders find ways to ensure greater connectivity and collegiality for their workforces. In this episode of The HR Leader Podcast, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with Adelaide-based Moira Were, the mayor of the City of Onkaparinga, co-founder of Collab4good and co-founder of Chooks SA, about her varied work, whether political polarisation at work has gotten worse, the issues and consequences that arise from such workplace tension, and how difficult it might be for HR teams to navigate such matters. Were also delves into the practical steps that business leaders and HR teams must take to mitigate political polarisation, the need to avoid toxic discourse among staff, striking the right balance with healthy debate and allowing individuals to be themselves, and how teams can ensure civil conversations ahead of next week’s federal election.