
The State of AI with Rowan Cheung
The State of AI is a podcast hosted by Rowan Cheung, where he talks with experts in the AI industry about the latest developments, why they matter, and how you can leverage them for the future of work. This podcast is produced by rundown.ai, the world's largest daily AI newsletter.
Latest episodes

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May 27, 2025 • 14min
Demis Hassabis on Curing Diseases with AI, Proactive Agents, AI Relationships, and more
Demis Hassabis, Co-founder and CEO of DeepMind, discusses AI's potential to cure diseases and its transformative role in education. He shares insights on how AI could enhance productivity while raising questions about dependency and human intelligence. The conversation explores the integration of AI in personal relationships and challenges in developing proactive systems. Hassabis also highlights groundbreaking advancements in drug discovery and the regulatory hurdles that lie ahead in harnessing AI's capabilities for real-world applications.

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May 21, 2025 • 22min
Satya Nadella on AI Agents, Rebuilding the Web, the Future of Work, and more
Satya Nadella, CEO of Microsoft, discusses the future of AI, emphasizing its transformative potential across various sectors. He reveals Microsoft's vision for the 'agentic web' and foresees a job market where roles like AI agent manager become commonplace. The conversation touches on the implications of 95% of code being AI-generated and the areas where AI agents will create the most value. Nadella also explores how personalized education and a shift in organizational culture are crucial for adapting to the next wave of technological advancements.

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Dec 11, 2024 • 14min
Demis Hassabis on Gemini 2.0, Project Astra, Agents, Gaming with Elon, and more
Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind, shares groundbreaking insights about Gemini 2.0 and Project Astra. He discusses creating a universal digital assistant that learns user preferences and interacts in real-time. The conversation delves into advancements in AI memory and context, exploring how larger memory capacities can enhance these agents. Hassabis also touches on the human-AI relationship, emphasizing both the companionship benefits and potential emotional risks, alongside intriguing chats with Elon Musk about the future of AI in gaming.

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Dec 5, 2024 • 26min
Mustafa Suleyman on Copilot Vision, AI Companions, Infinite Memory, AI Agents, and more
Mustafa Suleyman, CEO of Microsoft AI, unveils the groundbreaking Copilot Vision—an AI that interacts with users in real-time while navigating the internet. He discusses how this technology evolves to understand emotions, enhance travel planning, and offer personalized advice based on past experiences. The conversation also delves into privacy concerns, ensuring user control over data, and the future of AI companions as supportive allies in daily tasks. Exciting plans for a wider rollout are shared, promising a transformative digital experience.

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Sep 24, 2024 • 46min
Logan Kilpatrick on Google’s new Gemini Models, AI Agents, AGI, and more
Logan Kilpatrick, Product Lead for Google AI Studio, dives into Google's latest Gemini 1.5 models, showcasing their state-of-the-art performance. He discusses the power of AI agents in enhancing user experiences and how these models can support both developers and non-technical users. The conversation explores the challenges of translating complex AI capabilities into practical applications, as well as Gemini's innovative audio features for education. Kilpatrick emphasizes the importance of accessibility in AI, empowering future innovators to harness these tools.

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Aug 12, 2024 • 35min
Mark Zuckerberg on Llama 3.1, Open Source, AI Agents, Safety, and more
Mark Zuckerberg, co-founder and CEO of Meta, joins tech commentator Rowan Cheung to discuss the revolutionary Llama 3.1, the first open-sourced frontier AI model. They delve into the significance of open-source AI in promoting innovation and accessibility, comparing it to closed models like GPT-4o. The conversation covers strategic plans for educating developers on AI tools, the societal benefits of open-source technology, and hints at the exciting advancements planned for Llama 4. They also explore the future potential of diverse AI agents in enhancing user experiences.