

HVAC Boundary Spanners Podcast
Nate and Abhi
Taking tacit (unspoken) knowledge in the white and blue collar worlds of HVAC and making it explicit (out loud) for residential decarbonization.
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Jun 2, 2025 • 46min
(Bonus) Building Futures: Sam Sanderson on Trades, Training & Net-Zero Housing
Sam Sanderson of the PEI Construction Association shares how hands-on training is tackling labor shortages, housing needs, and climate goals: one net-zero tiny home at a time. From licensing-reform to contractor-led innovation, this conversation offers a grounded take on what it really takes to build for a net-zero future.

Jan 24, 2025 • 50min
The case FOR always including hybrids - the 9 use cases
Discover why hybrids should be central to HVAC discussions! The hosts break down different house types needing electrification and budget considerations. Learn how hybrids serve as safety nets, enhancing comfort and ease of installation. They address the challenges of deep retrofits for older, leaky homes while emphasizing the importance of diagnostics. The conversation touches on incentives that often skew choices and the future potential of hybrids in a changing market. It's a deep dive into making HVAC decisions smarter and more strategic!

Jan 4, 2025 • 42min
S03E02 - The Case Against Hybrids
This discussion dives into the drawbacks of dual fuel heating systems, arguing against hybrids. Experts highlight oversized furnaces and their inefficiencies compared to properly sized heat pumps. They explore humidity control issues and the safety hazards of gas systems. The conversation also touches on the complexity of hybrid installations and how they may complicate future electrification. Ultimately, while hybrids offer some short-term benefits, they present long-term challenges and maintenance burdens that raise concerns for homeowners.

Jan 4, 2025 • 1h 13min
S03E01 - The Case for Hybrids
This discussion delves into the benefits of hybrid heat pumps, combining furnaces and heat pumps for enhanced comfort and efficiency. They explore how hybrid systems can match home heating loads better and reduce reliance on furnaces, addressing both contractor and homeowner perspectives. Topics include practical installation strategies, the impact on grid demand, and how hybrids can serve as a stepping stone towards full electrification. The conversation emphasizes the importance of training and policy support for wider adoption.

Sep 13, 2024 • 52min
S2E07: 9 Policies that Work for People Doing the Work
Dive into innovative policy ideas that could reshape the HVAC industry! Hear about the push for heat pumps over traditional AC units and the vision of mandatory performance verification. Discover how financing linked to energy bills could ease homeowner costs and why a one-click tool could streamline contractor-homeowner matchmaking. From energy disclosure to contractor mentorship programs, the conversation covers strategies to help contractors thrive while benefiting homeowners. Let’s explore the future of eco-friendly solutions!

Sep 5, 2024 • 36min
S2E06 The Sorting Hat: 3 buckets of homes and homeowners
Is there an easier - and scalable - way to determine if a home and the homeowner are ready for electrification?

Aug 16, 2024 • 49min
S02E05: Can "free" energy audits help decarbonize homes?
In theory, an energy audit can give homeowners a roadmap for planning home energy retrofits. But how does a "free" energy audit play out at the kitchen-table conversation between homeowners and contractors?
We outline a narrow - but perhaps crucial - role that (virtual) energy audits can play in catalyzing consumer awareness and education, leading to better outcomes for both homeowners and contractors

Jul 31, 2024 • 20min
(Bonus Episode): Boundary-spanning is hard
Personal reflections on cultivating optimism while working on things that matter to us

Jul 31, 2024 • 52min
S02E04: An accelerator for residential decarbonizatiom?
The discussion centers on the vision for a national business accelerator to boost residential decarbonization. They delve into how low-margin business models obstruct progress, emphasizing the need for education and technical training in heat pump adoption. Seasonal pressures complicate change, yet insights from agricultural models offer pathways for support. The importance of contractor-driven policy ideas and the role of small contractors in driving equity and efficiency are highlighted. Ultimately, the hosts advocate for iterative experiments to refine approaches to decarbonization.

Jul 31, 2024 • 32min
S02E03: What the IRA does or doesn't do for home decarb
The Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) in the US offers generous incentives for residential electrification. Will it move the needle?


