Lost And Sound

Paul Hanford
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Aug 26, 2025 • 1h 6min

Mabe Fratti

Mabe Fratti is everywhere these days, and for good reason. The Guatemalan-born, Mexico City-based cellist, vocalist, and composer has built a formidable reputation for creating music that seamlessly blurs between experimental pop and improvisation.We got into one, exploring Mabe's journey from her religious upbringing in Guatemala to becoming a consistently innovative artist. She candidly shares how playing improvisational cello in a 5,000-capacity neo-Pentecostal church connected her to "the spiritual part of music" – an experience that would shape her artistic approach for years to come. When a Goethe Institute residency brought her to Mexico City, she discovered free improvisation that felt "like being a child again," setting her on a path of constant musical exploration.Mabe talks about embracing vulnerability and uncertainty. Rather than pursuing a signature sound, she approaches each project with different visions – from her collaborative work with Amor Muere and Titanic to her solo albums. "I am the one who changes my mind very fast," she admits, discussing how her latest album title "Sentir Que No Sabes" (Feel Like You Don't Know) reflects her comfort with constant evolution.Throughout our discussion, Mabe offers wisdom on navigating creative doubts through playing, meaningful conversations, and continuous learning. As she puts it: "If I feel doubt in this, why not explore that doubt through learning?" Mabe’s new album with Titanic, "Hagen" is available from September 5th Check it out on BandcampListen to Mabe Fratti’s music on BandcampFollow Mabe Fratti on Instagram: @mabefrattiIf you enjoy Lost and Sound and want to help keep it thriving, the best way to support is simple: subscribe, leave a rating, and write a quick review on your favourite podcast platform. It really helps others find the show. You can do that here on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you like to listen.Huge thanks to Audio-Technica – makers of beautifully engineered audio gear and sponsors of Lost and Sound. Check them out here: Audio-TechnicaWant to go deeper? Grab a copy of my book Coming To Berlin, a journey through the city’s creative underground, via Velocity Press.And if you’re curious about Cold War-era subversion, check out my BBC documentary The Man Who Smuggled Punk Rock Across The Berlin Wall on the BBC World Service.You can also follow me on Instagram at @paulhanford for behind-the-scenes bits, guest updates, and whatever else is bubbling up.
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Aug 12, 2025 • 56min

Jagz Kooner

What does it mean to "Be More Weatherall"? This question looms deep in my conversation with Jagz Kooner, one-third of the pioneering electronic trio Sabres of Paradise, as we explore the reissue of their groundbreaking first two albums and reflect on the enduring legacy of the late Andrew Weatherall.Thirty years after their original release, Sabersonic and Haunted Dancehall have been given the reissue treatment by Warp Records, coinciding with a reformation of the band  for performances at Sydney Opera House and Primavera Sound, amongst places. Jagz gets into how a serendipitous chain of events – beginning with a Q&A at the Golden Lion in Todmorden and the discovery of a forgotten live recording – led to this unexpected new chapter for a project that helped move rave culture beyond the confines of nightclubs.Throughout our conversation, Weatherall's spirit looms large. His philosophy of "don't look back, every day is year zero" initially made Jagz hesitant to revisit past work, until Weatherall's partner Lizzie offered a poignant perspective: "There is no looking forward now he's gone. All we've got is what he gave us." I get the impression of a real lack of the usual get-the-band-back-together cynicism for this project.The interview also traces Jagz' evolution from bedroom DJ to acclaimed producer, known for his signature fusion of electronic precision with rock and roll grit. From his work with Primal Scream on "Swastika Eyes" to his game-changing remix for The Charlatans (which inspired Eddie Temple Morris to start his influential radio show), Jagz has consistently embodied Weatherall's ethos of experimentation and boundary-pushing.Here’s the weekly links section for the Jagz Kooner episode, in your fixed Lost and Sound template style, with the artist-specific links swapped in:Listen to The Sabres of Paradise via Warp’s BandcampFollow Jagz Kooner: Website InstagramIf you enjoy Lost and Sound and want to help keep it thriving, the best way to support is simple: subscribe, leave a rating, and write a quick review on your favourite podcast platform. It really helps others find the show. You can do that here on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you like to listen.Huge thanks to Audio-Technica – makers of beautifully engineered audio gear and sponsors of Lost and Sound. Check them out here: Audio-TechnicaWant to go deeper? Grab a copy of my book Coming To Berlin, a journey through the city’s creative underground, via Velocity Press.And if you’re curious about Cold War-era subversion, check out my BBC documentary The Man Who Smuggled Punk Rock Across The Berlin Wall on the BBC World Service.You can also follow me on Instagram at @paulhanford for behind-the-scenes bits, guest updates, and whatever else is bubbling up.
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Aug 5, 2025 • 1h 11min

Damian Lazarus

Damian Lazarus joins me for a wide-ranging conversation tracing his path from the early 2000s electroclash scene to his position today as one of dance music’s most consistently influential figures.We talk about how it all began — from getting his first DJ residency at 16, to working as music editor at Dazed and Confused, to his A&R role at City Rockers, where he helped shape the early sound of electroclash alongside labels like Gigolo and Turbo. He shares stories from that era: warehouse parties in Shoreditch, impromptu gigs in disused toilets, and encounters with everyone from The Strokes to Jarvis Cocker.We also get into what came next: founding Crosstown Rebels, building immersive events like Day Zero and Get Lost, and working with artists like Jamie Jones, Francesca Lombardo, and Maceo Plex.Damian also talks candidly about sobriety, how it affected his creative process during the making of his Magickal album, and what changed for him on a personal level. He describes the early signs — creative blocks, burnout — and the shifts that followed once he made the decision to stop.We cover a lot: longevity in music, what it means to stay curious, and how looking back at music’s past helps him think about where things might go next.Listen to Damian Lazarus’ music:🎧 Bandcamp | Crosstown Rebels BandcampVisit Damian Lazarus’ website:🌐 damianlazarus.comFollow Damian Lazarus on Instagram:📸 @damianlazarusIf you enjoy Lost and Sound and want to help keep it thriving, the best way to support is simple: subscribe, leave a rating, and write a quick review on your favourite podcast platform. It really helps others find the show. You can do that here on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you like to listen.Thanks also Audio-Technica – makers of beautifully engineered audio gear. Not only that, but sponsors of this very podcast. Check them out here: Audio-TechnicaBored on the beach this August? Grab a copy of my book Coming To Berlin, a journey through the city’s creative underground, via Velocity Press.And if you’re curious about Cold War-era subversion, check out my BBC documentary The Man Who Smuggled Punk Rock Across The Berlin Wall on the BBC World Service.You can also follow me on Instagram at @paulhanford for behind-the-scenes bits, guest updates, and whatever else is bubbling up.
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Jul 29, 2025 • 47min

Emerald

Emerald, a prominent DJ, broadcaster, and label owner, shares her journey from a laptop DJ in the outskirts of London to a key figure in UK underground club culture. She discusses her new label, Precious Stones, highlighting its personal significance and vision for transcending musical norms. Emerald candidly explores the challenges of balancing creativity and mental health in the music industry. She also confronts networking anxieties, advocates for genuine connections, and emphasizes the importance of authenticity in navigating identity within the underground scene.
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Jul 22, 2025 • 1h 6min

Gyrofield

Kiana Li, the electronic producer and sound artist known as Gyrofield, creates music that steadfastly refuses simple categorization. Growing up in Hong Kong before relocating to Bristol and eventually Utrecht, she began making music in isolation – alone in her bedroom and sharing tracks online. When their parody track “Out Of My Mind” unexpectedly caught fire in 2019, it marked the beginning of a fascinating artistic evolution that continues to unfold in surprising ways.Our conversation reveals how deeply intertwined Kiana's artistic and personal identities have become. As a self-described "cat-spirited interdisciplinary artist," she discusses how exploring gender fluidity has influenced her approach to creating music that exists beyond conventional boundaries. "What happens when we make identity fluid?" she asks, suggesting that both transness and artistic expression allow people to "possess otherness and turn it into something beautiful."What emerges most powerfully from our discussion is how music has functioned as both survival mechanism and connection point for Gyrofield. Growing up neurodivergent and socially isolated, creating electronic music offered an essential lifeline. Now, as a respected artist with releases on labels like Metalheadz and XL, she's using her platform to explore complex emotions while still creating moments of joy.Follow Gyrofield on Instagram: @gyrofieldListen to Gyrofield’s music: Suspension of Belief – Bandcamp Akin / Mother – BandcampIf you enjoy Lost and Sound and want to help keep it thriving, the best way to support is simple: subscribe, leave a rating, and write a quick review on your favourite podcast platform. It really helps others find the show. You can do that here on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you like to listen.Huge thanks to Lost and Sound’s sponsor –  Audio-Technica – makers of beautifully engineered audio gear. Check them out here: Audio-TechnicaBored on the beach? Grab a copy of my book Coming To Berlin, a journey through the city’s creative underground, via Velocity Press.And if you’re curious about Cold War-era subversion, check out my BBC documentary The Man Who Smuggled Punk Rock Across The Berlin Wall on the BBC World Service.You can also follow me on Instagram at @paulhanford for behind-the-scenes bits, guest updates, and whatever else is bubbling up.
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Jul 16, 2025 • 59min

Eli Keszler

Eli Keszler joins me this week to talk about rethinking sound, space, and what it means to create music in an uncertain world. A lifelong percussionist, Eli’s work has often explored the edges of rhythm and texture—dismantling traditional approaches and rebuilding them into something uniquely his own. Eli isn’t just a percussionist who produces great albums though. A visual arist and a creative mentor who has collaborated with everyone from Oneohtrix Point Never to Laurel Halo to Skrillex. We talk about how his relationship with the studio has shifted over time, how working in film has expanded his compositional approach, and how speed and density in performance can create a strange kind of stillness. His new self-titled album on LuckyMe marks his eleventh solo release and reflects years of process, reflection, and experimentation.The conversation also opens out into something I‘m currently really interested in asking artists‘ opinions on: how the function of music itself is changing. As digital culture reshapes how we interact, consume, and listen, Eli reflects on the possibility that music might be returning to something more spiritual, more tactile—more connected to personal and communal practice than product. We talk about the idea of a “humanist retreat” from the frictionlessness of tech, and how creative work might serve as a space to resist or reimagine that drift.Listen to Eli Keszler’s music:BandcampListen to Eli Keszler (2024):BandcampFollow Eli Keszler on Instagram: @eli_keszlerIf you enjoy Lost and Sound and want to help keep it thriving, the best way to support is simple: subscribe, leave a rating, and write a quick review on your favourite podcast platform. It really helps others find the show. You can do that here on Apple Podcasts or wherever you like to listen.Lost and Sound is sponsored by Audio-Technica – makers of beautifully engineered audio gear. Check them out here: Audio-TechnicaWant to go deeper? Grab a copy of my book Coming To Berlin, a journey through the city’s creative underground, via Velocity Press.And if you’re curious about Cold War-era subversion, check out my BBC documentary The Man Who Smuggled Punk Rock Across The Berlin Wall on the BBC World Service.You can also follow me on Instagram at @paulhanford for behind-the-scenes bits, guest updates, and whatever else is bubbling up.
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Jul 8, 2025 • 38min

Adam Wiltzie – Stars of the Lid

What began with nothing more than a four-track recorder, a couple of "crappy mics," and a friendship forged over Erik Satie records at university parties led to the quietly seminal influence Stars Of The Lid have had over ambient, modern composition and drone music over the past four decades. I spoke with Adam Wiltzie – one half of the project (the other, Brian McBride sadly passed away in 2023).Against the backdrop of 1990s Austin – a city dominated by rock and country music – Stars of the Lid emerged with something radically different. Their debut album "Music for Nitrous Oxide" quietly initiated a revolution, pushing against what Adam describes as the prevailing white boy funk and laying groundwork for what would become a seminal force in ambient and modern composition. Now celebrating its 30th anniversary with a remastered release, Wiltzie reflects on those early creative days with the late Brian McBride and the unexpected longevity of their collaborative vision.Wiltzie is so disarmingly unpretentious I almost gulped at one point. "I am definitely my own worst critic and I still love getting bad reviews," he confesses with surprising candor. This willingness to embrace imperfection has fueled a four-decade career spent continually moving forward rather than getting stuck in pursuit of perfection – a lesson valuable for creators in any medium.Most poignantly, Wiltzie shares how Brian McBride's passing inspired this anniversary project, bringing memories of their formative creative partnership back to the surface. The reissue serves not as nostalgic celebration but as a "time capsule" documenting how two university students with minimal equipment created atmospheric soundscapes that seaped their way into the water influencing generations of musicians working at the intersection of ambient, drone, and modern classical composition.Listen to Stars of the Lid’s music:BandcampListen to Music for Nitrous Oxide (30-Year Anniversary Remastered): BandcampFollow Adam Wiltzie on Instagram: @adamwiltzieIf you enjoy Lost and Sound and want to help keep it thriving, the best way to support is simple: subscribe, leave a rating, and write a quick review on your favourite podcast platform. It really helps others find the show. You can do that here on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you like to listen.Thanks to Audio-Technica – makers of beautifully engineered audio gear and sponsors of Lost and Sound. Check them out here: Audio-TechnicaIf you’re looking for summer read and you’ve not read it yet, check out my book Coming To Berlin, a journey through the city’s creative underground, via Velocity Press.And if you like tales of punks outwitting the establishment, check out my BBC documentary The Man Who Smuggled Punk Rock Across The Berlin Wall on the BBC World Service.You can also follow me on Instagram at @paulhanford for behind-the-scenes bits, guest updates, and whatever else is bubbling up.
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Jul 1, 2025 • 45min

rRoxymore

How do you make an album through personal upheaval? I spoke with rRoxymore about the process of making her third album "Juggling Dualities" – a work born from the ashes of emotional upheaval and creative block. When we sat down together, the genre-blurring producer opened up with remarkable candour about finding her way back to music through surrender rather than force."I couldn't produce any track of music that was satisfying for my standards," rRoxymore aka Hermione Frank confessed, describing the frustration that preceded her creative breakthrough. The turning point came when she abandoned expectations entirely – no planned album, no pressure to deliver a product, just pure exploration. What emerged was something she considers her most honest work, created in a surprisingly short timeframe with an authenticity that surprised even herself.The conversation ventured beyond the album into rRoxymore‘s journey as an artist – from her early days in France feeling constrained by rigid genre expectations, to finding freedom in Berlin's electronic music scene, to her recent move to a smaller city where she's embracing a slower rhythm of life. Throughout it all, she's maintained a fluid relationship with genre, using it as "a reference point that you'll avoid to go to" rather than a rigid framework to follow.Perhaps most striking was her deliberate disconnection from digital noise during this period of creation. "I deleted all the socials for a while," she shared, emphasizing the importance of asking fundamental questions: "What do I want? Who am I?" This return to essentials allowed her to follow her natural rhythm – a practice she describes as "maybe financially not as rewarding, but it's so satisfying."Listen to rRoxymore’s music: Bandcamp Artist Page – rRoxymore Listen to Juggling Dualities (pre-order available):Bandcamp – Juggling Dualities Follow rRoxymore on Instagram: @rroxymore If you enjoy Lost and Sound and want to help keep it thriving, the best way to support is simple: subscribe, leave a rating, and write a quick review on your favourite podcast platform. It really helps others find the show. You can do that here on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you like to listen.Thanks also to this episode’s sponsor, Audio-Technica – makers of beautifully engineered audio gear. Check them out here: Audio-TechnicaWant to go deeper? Grab a copy of my book Coming To Berlin, a journey through the city’s creative underground, via Velocity Press.And if you’re curious about Cold War-era subversion, check out my BBC documentary The Man Who Smuggled Punk Rock Across The Berlin Wall on the BBC World Service.You can also follow me on Instagram at @paulhanford for behind-the-scenes bits, guest updates, and whatever else is bubbling up.
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Jun 24, 2025 • 55min

Richard Fearless

Richard Fearless is a true lifer. The DJ, producer and Death In Vegas founder sits down with Paul to reflect on 30 years of musical evolution that has taken him from the hugely influential Heavenly Social to Mercury Prize nominations, a top ten hit about a serial killer sung by Iggy Pop to his current creative renaissance, working free from industry bullshit and producing his best work in years,Growing up in remote Zambia with music-loving parents, Fearless recalls connecting with music at an early age. His path would lead through the emerging London techno scene of the late '80s and '90s, where he cut his teeth as a resident DJ alongside contemporaries like Andrew Weatherall and The Chemical Brothers before launching Death in Vegas. The conversation reveals a pivotal moment when commercial success led to a crossroads rather than continued mainstream pursuit.What emerges is the portrait of an artist who deliberately stepped away from major labels, management, and industry expectations to craft a more authentic sonic identity. His riverside studio "The Metal Box" becomes central to this narrative – an analog sanctuary where tape machines, field recordings, and environmental sounds combine to create the stripped-back, trance-inducing techno of his current work. "I make my best music when I'm digging deep within myself," he explains.Perhaps most compelling is Fearless's admission that he feels more proud of his recent, independent work than the commercial hits that brought him fame. His collaborative ventures with friend of Lost and Sound Daniel Avery and new dub-inspired night "Holy" demonstrate an artist still pushing boundaries rather than retreating into nostalgia. "I feel as excited about DJing as I was when I was 20," he confesses, signaling that artistic liberation has reinvigorated his passion.Death Mask by Death In Vegas is out now. Listen on  BandcampFollow Death In Vegas on Instagram:  @deathinvegasmusicIf you enjoy Lost and Sound, I’ve got a little favour to ask: please subscribe, leave a rating, and write a quick review on your favourite podcast platform. It really helps others find the show. You can do that here on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you like to listen.Huge thanks to Lost and Sound’s sponsor, Audio-Technica – makers of vcry fine engineered audio gear. Check them out here: Audio-TechnicaWant to go deeper? Grab a copy of my book Coming To Berlin, a journey through the city’s creative underground, via Velocity Press.And if you’re curious about Cold War-era subversion, check out my BBC documentary The Man Who Smuggled Punk Rock Across The Berlin Wall on the BBC World Service.You can also follow me on Instagram at @paulhanford for behind-the-scenes bits, guest updates, and whatever else is bubbling up
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Jun 17, 2025 • 1h 15min

Lyra Pramuk

Lyra Pramuk is a vocalist, composer, and producer known for her thoughtful exploration of queerness and experimental sound. In a fascinating conversation, she discusses the bold themes of her new album 'Hymnal,' which navigates dissonance, grief, and beauty. Collaboration takes center stage, from working with the Sonar Quartet to the unexpected influence of a slime mold in shaping her music. Lyra reflects on the power of technology as an extension of our bodies and the transformative potential of merging electronic and classical elements in art.

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