Nearing the podcast’s 200th episode just around the corner, Stella and Sasha mark the 4-year milestone of Gender: A Wider Lens! Together, they reflect on the show’s remarkable evolution and its impact on their respective journeys. With a vast catalog of episodes filled with profound insights, transformative stories, intriguing interviews, and relentless curiosity, the show has progressed alongside the ever-shifting landscape of gender and the ripple effects of the medicalization of youth.In this episode, they share insights into both the psychological and societal shifts surrounding gender identity and reveal a BIG announcement for what listeners can expect in 2025. Looking back on the development of the podcast, they express gratitude for their listeners and the incredible community that has grown around them.Don’t miss this exclusive preview of what’s to come from Sasha & Stella in 2025! We’d love to hear your thoughts, ideas, and feedback — your input is invaluable as we shape all that’s ahead. Share your insights by leaving a comment on Substack, YouTube, or Spotify, reach out directly via X @widerlenspod, or email hello@widerlenspod.com.For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/episode-197 Buy Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents at https://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/   Join Our Listener Community to Access Exclusive Content at https://www.widerlenspod.com/   Support the Show at https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/support-the-show   Join the conversation on YouTube at www.youtube.com/@widerlenspod  For more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups, visit:Sasha Ayad: https://sashaayad.com/parenting-coaching   Stella O’Malley: http://www.stellaomalley.com/parent-coaching  To learn more about our sponsors, visit:Therapy First at https://www.therapyfirst.org/  Genspect at https://genspect.org/  This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com/subscribe  This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com/subscribe

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.widerlenspod.comThe relationship between homophobia and gender medicine is deeply intertwined, with historical and contemporary practices shedding light on troubling patterns. Historically, gender-nonconforming individuals were often pathologized and subjected to medical interventions under the guise of correcting deviance. Today, these practices persist, albeit under new narratives that often frame gender nonconformity as a medical issue requiring intervention, such as transitioning.Emerging trends reveal the influence of social contagion, with cultural narratives and social media amplifying gender identity struggles among vulnerable populations, particularly youth. This surge raises critical questions about the lack of scientific rigor in therapeutic practices, the ethics of irreversible medical procedures, and the neglect of alternative psychological or social supports. These patterns reflect a broader societal discomfort with nonconformity and a tendency to medicalize identities rather than embrace diversity.In this bonus episode for premium subscribers, Glenna Goldis argues that modern gender medicine perpetuates homophobia by medicalizing gender nonconformity, effectively pathologizing same-sex attraction in a way that parallels past efforts to suppress homosexuality. She references the 2015 APA guidelines, which shifted the framework for addressing gender dysphoria, emphasizing affirmation and, often, medical intervention, suggesting that these guidelines reframe homosexuality as something to be corrected if it appears intertwined with gender nonconformity. She advocates for a more critical examination of these practices, urging evidence-based approaches that prioritize genuine understanding and acceptance over medicalization.To deepen your understanding of Glenna's perspective, we encourage you to explore her Substack, particularly the two pieces linked below (referenced during the conversation). Both provide valuable insight into her critique of current gender medicine practices and their broader social implications.Why Therapists Trans Away the GayThe Assessment ShamWatch our full length episode with Glenna Goldis: https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/episode-196For instructions on setting up a private feed to listen to our premium content in your favorite podcast app, visit https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/how-to-listen-to-our-full-premium.

Glenna Goldis, a seasoned attorney with extensive knowledge in gender medicine and consumer fraud, joins the conversation to unpack the legal complexities surrounding gender-affirming care. She highlights alarming concerns regarding puberty blockers and accountability in healthcare. Glenna also discusses high-profile lawsuits against the American Academy of Pediatrics, the intersection of politics and gender identity, and sheds light on the evolving legal landscape, all while emphasizing the need for clear terminology and diverse perspectives in legal discourse.

Stella and Sasha welcome author and podcaster, Phil Illy, to the show for a thought-provoking conversation on sexuality, identity, and self-understanding. They engage with Phil’s concept of auto-heterosexuality, explore his interpretation of "erotic target identity inversion," and examine how these theories relate to broader discussions around sexuality and identity. As the discussion evolves, Stella and Sasha offer their critiques and challenge Phil's framework, pushing for a deeper understanding of these complex concepts.Phil Illy is the author of Autoheterosexual: Attracted to Being the Other Sex, a provocative exploration of sexuality, identity, and gender. In his book, Phil introduces the concept of auto-heterosexuality, describing an attraction to oneself as the opposite sex, and expands upon theories such as "erotic target identity inversion," originally coined by Dr. Ray Blanchard. With a focus on unconventional sexual interests and their psychological underpinnings, Phil's work challenges conventional frameworks and evokes critical examination into the complexities of desire, identity, and human behavior. In addition to his book, Phil is also the host of the Autohetero Files podcast, where he platforms personal stories and discussions that resonate with the ideas and concepts explored in his work.In this episode, listeners can expect to hear a dynamic and often intense conversation, with Stella and Sasha asking difficult questions and exploring the psychological and relational implications of the ideas Phil presents. They dig into both the intellectual and emotional dimensions of the topics at hand. Whether you agree or disagree with the perspectives shared, this episode will leave you with plenty to consider, exploring the deeper questions surrounding identity, desire, and the psychological aspects of sexual behavior.For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/episode-195 Buy Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents at https://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/ Join Our Listener Community to Access Exclusive Content at https://www.widerlenspod.com/   Support the Show at https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/support-the-show   Join the conversation on YouTube at www.youtube.com/@widerlenspod  For more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups, visit:Sasha Ayad: https://sashaayad.com/parenting-coaching   Stella O’Malley: http://www.stellaomalley.com/parent-coaching  To learn more about our sponsors, visit:Therapy First at https://www.therapyfirst.org/  Genspect at https://genspect.org/  This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com/subscribe   This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com/subscribe

The discussion dives into the delicate balance between parental rights and the influence of educational institutions. Emphasis is placed on the need for transparency and parental involvement, particularly in homeschooling. Eldur Smári Kristinsson highlights the urgency of political discourse for individuals with diverse viewpoints. He notes how collective engagement could inspire societal change and empower citizens to assert their freedoms. The focus shifts to fostering cooperation within communities while ensuring families have the autonomy to guide their children's education.

Eldur Smári Kristinsson, a freelance writer and chairman of the Lesbian and Gay Alliance in Iceland, shares his insights on Iceland's dramatic societal changes concerning gender ideology. He describes the transformation from progressive gay rights to a 'gender-crazed dystopia' and discusses the infiltration of gender ideology into various institutions. Eldur highlights the role of ideological activists and well-funded interest groups, shedding light on the complexities of dissent and the challenges of open dialogue within the evolving landscape of gender discourse.

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.widerlenspod.comHonesty and authenticity are critical when discussing identity issues. Rather than avoiding uncomfortable truths or pandering to claims that may oversimplify complex realities, fostering honest discussions can help adolescents build resilience and navigate complexities with greater confidence. Parents, educators, and professionals must strike a balance between compassion and clarity, empowering young people to understand and embrace the nuanced realities of identity.Through informed, empathetic engagement, society can better support adolescents in exploring their identities while safeguarding their well-being and long-term health.In this bonus episode for premium subscribers, Dr. Hakeem strongly advocates for transparency, critical thinking, and a commitment to ethical care in addressing gender dysphoria. His approach focuses on safeguarding the psychological and physical health of young people while fostering an environment where they can thoughtfully explore their identities without undue pressure.Watch our full length episode with Dr. Az Hakeem: https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/episode-193For instructions on setting up a private feed to listen to our premium content in your favorite podcast app, visit https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/how-to-listen-to-our-full-premium.

Dr. Az Hakeem, an experienced psychiatrist and author, dives deep into the complexities of gender dysphoria. He categorizes individuals within the trans identity label, emphasizing the importance of nuanced understanding. The conversation explores the intriguing link between autistic thinking and queer theory, critiques modern gender medicine practices, and discusses how parents can effectively communicate with their trans-identified children. Hakeem challenges societal views and highlights the need for open dialogue in addressing gender identity.

Dysphoria is a unique experience for everyone, shaped by personal histories and societal influences. Some feel it as discomfort with their bodies, while others may experience social misalignment. The discussion emphasizes the need for a patient, individualized approach to gender identity, allowing for personal exploration. Aaron Kimberly advocates for autonomy in gender expression, urging informed choices and gradual exploration over hasty medical interventions. This nuanced perspective supports genuine self-alignment and personal growth.

Sasha and Stella welcome Aaron Kimberly back to the show, nearly a year after her first appearance on the podcast. Aaron has undergone a remarkable transformation, returning to her female identity and embracing a new understanding and acceptance of herself. This episode delves into Aaron’s complex journey of self-discovery, shaped by her unique experiences with a rare ovotesticular disorder of sex development (DSD), her longstanding identity as a butch lesbian, and the medical, professional, and social experiences that have shaped her path.In this episode, Aaron examines the role of the butch lesbian community that once fostered a vital sense of belonging—a community that, as she remarks, has largely faded, leaving young butch lesbians with limited support. She suggests that this shift might be contributing to the increased rates of medical transition among younger lesbians today. Her deep commitment to understanding the diverse reasons for sex non-conformity, coupled with her involvement in lesbian communities, has cultivated her interest in the cultural contexts of gender and atypical bodies, often pathologized or medicalized in society.This is an incredibly compelling conversation reflecting on the evolving relationship between lesbian identity, butch identity, and the implications of a medicalized appearance. For links and resources relevant to this episode, access the full show notes at  https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/episode-192 Buy Our Book – When Kids Say They’re Trans: A Guide for Thoughtful Parents at https://whenkidssaytheyretrans.com/   Join Our Listener Community to Access Exclusive Content at https://www.widerlenspod.com/   Support the Show at https://www.widerlenspod.com/p/support-the-show   Join the conversation on YouTube at www.youtube.com/@widerlenspod  For more information about Sasha’s & Stella’s parent coaching membership groups, visit:Sasha Ayad: https://sashaayad.com/parenting-coaching   Stella O’Malley: http://www.stellaomalley.com/parent-coaching  To learn more about our sponsors, visit:Therapy First at https://www.therapyfirst.org/  Genspect at https://genspect.org/  This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com/subscribe   This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com/subscribe