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Part 2: Chills vs. Pills: The Future of Mental Health | Prof Nicco Reggente. Show Notes What if a simple shiver down your spine could heal depression, rewire belief, and even rival psychedelics in transforming the mind? In Part 2 of my conversation with Professor Nicco Reggente, we dive into the most disruptive neuroscience you’ve probably never heard of: the power of aesthetic chills. These goosebump-inducing moments, triggered by music, film, or human connection, aren’t just emotional fireworks. Nicco’s groundbreaking research shows they can: Restore the capacity for pleasure in patients where drugs fail Dissolve ego and unlock self-transcendence in ways that rival psychedelics Rewire maladaptive beliefs and reduce depression below clinical thresholds—sometimes in a single session Shape political extremes and social belonging, for better and for worse . This is not just about goosebumps. It’s about discovering whether chills are the most democratic and accessible tool for human flourishing—and the dangerous ways they can also be weaponized in cults, polarization, and extremist movements. . If you lead at the highest level, you cannot ignore what this means: the same nervous system mechanism that can heal can also manipulate. Understanding it may be the next frontier in leadership, influence, and human performance. In this episode, Professor Nicco Reggente and I explore: Why concerts, stadiums, and shared rituals dissolve ego into collective transcendence The dark side: how chills can fuel extremism, brainwashing, and polarization New research shows liberals and conservatives experience chills differently How AI-driven “schema surgery” videos create one-shot breakthroughs in depression Why chills may restore hedonic tone (pleasure) in anhedonic patients where pharmaceuticals fail How chills mirror psychedelic therapies—without the risks or stigma Why leaders who understand chills can harness empathy, belonging, and transformation at scale     About Professor Nicco Reggente Research Director, Institute for Advanced Consciousness Studies Specialist in non-ordinary states, belief updating, and applied neuroscience Innovator in AI-driven, personalized therapeutic interventions Author of breakthrough studies linking chills to depression, politics, and empathy Website https://advancedconsciousness.org/ https://advancedconsciousness.org/member/nicco-reggente/ Social Media https://www.linkedin.com/in/nreggente/     https://x.com/mobiuscydonia 🔥 Subscribe now to The Dov Baron Show—where elite leaders and restless thinkers sharpen their edge. If you’re ready to master the hidden codes that drive belief, influence, and human potential, this is your room.

Part 1:  The Science of Chills: Unlocking Human Flourishing. | Prof Nicco Reggente. Why "The Matrix" became a cultural “chills” moment Show Notes What if the secret to rewiring your leadership and your life wasn’t another strategy or habit—but the moment that sends chills down your spine? . Professor Nicco Reggente is pioneering one of the most radical frontiers in neuroscience: decoding non-ordinary states of consciousness to unlock human flourishing, upgrade belief systems, and rewire identity itself. . This isn’t theory; it’s the cutting edge of science meeting leadership. Professor Nicco Reggente is the Research Director at the Institute for Advanced Consciousness Studies, where his work blends meditation, VR, neurofeedback, and machine learning to reveal how we can break free from the trance of the ordinary and step into states of clarity, empathy, and transformation. . In this first part of our two-part conversation, we dismantle the myths about resilience, expose why humans cling to toxic familiarity, and explore why aesthetic chills- those shivers you can’t ignore, might be the nervous system’s hidden code for transformation. . If you’ve ever felt a piece of music, film, or moment strike you so profoundly that it rearranged your inner world, this episode will show you why that reaction isn’t random. It’s your body telling you the truth your mind can’t yet speak. In this episode, you’ll discover: Why most leaders misunderstand resilience—and what it really demands How non-ordinary states of consciousness can accelerate human flourishing The hidden cost of clinging to the familiar, even when it destroys us Why maladaptive beliefs are actually survival codes—and how to evolve them The neuroscience of chills as a diagnostic tool for belief and identity How insight moments are physical, not just mental—and why that matters for power and decision-making Why The Matrix became a cultural “chills” moment—and what that reveals about consensus reality About Professor Nicco Reggente Research Director, Institute for Advanced Consciousness Studies Leading the global research on belief updating and identity through neuroscience Former UCLA lecturer in functional neuroimaging Innovator in personalized neuroscience, VR, and machine learning for human transformation Website https://advancedconsciousness.org/ https://advancedconsciousness.org/member/nicco-reggente/ Social Media https://www.linkedin.com/in/nreggente/     https://x.com/mobiuscydonia   🔥 Subscribe now to The Dov Baron Show—where serious thinkers, elite leaders, and restless visionaries come to sharpen their edge. If you want to stay ordinary, this isn’t your show.

Part 2 of 2 of my conversation with a rare and iconic human, Dame Stephanie Shirley.  Who the world lost in the summer of 2025 What is true resilience?  . What if the very thing that almost broke you became the key to you in changing the world? . Dame Stephanie Shirley is not just a tech pioneer, she is living proof that resilience is forged in fire. From a childhood escape on the Kindertransport, to founding the first all-women software company in 1962 (decades before anyone whispered “remote work”), to building a $3 billion empire that created 70 millionaires, her story reads like legend. But what makes her extraordinary is not her success, it is how she faced trauma, breakdown, and the raw reality of raising an autistic son—and turned it into fuel for innovation, compassion, and radical philanthropy. . In this episode, we go deeper: how values-based hiring became her secret weapon, why Dame Shirley believes President Zelensky embodies the future of leadership, and how suffering, when confronted, can reveal who we truly are. If you think resilience means grinding harder, prepare to have that illusion shattered. . This isn’t a feel-good tale of triumph. It’s a masterclass in what it really takes to lead, build, break, and rebuild—without losing your humanity. . In this conversation, Dame Stephanie Shirley reveals: How trauma in childhood revealed her disruptive entrepreneurial DNA Why values, not skills, determine the fate of a business What Zelensky teaches us about the new face of leadership The brutal truth about resilience (and why most people misunderstand it) How breakdown became her turning point toward compassion and purpose The radical shift in how society views autism, and why neurodiversity is leadership’s untapped advantage Why philanthropy, done right, gives back far more than money ever could . Dame Shirley’s story forces you to ask yourself: What parts of me have I disenfranchised in the name of fitting in, and what would happen if I brought them back? About Dame Stephanie Shirley Founder of Freelance Programmers, the world’s first all-women software company (1962) Scaled to 8,500 employees and a $3 billion valuation Transformed women’s opportunities in technology, creating 70 millionaires in the process Knighted as a Dame, awarded the Companion of Honour Pioneering philanthropist in autism research, education, and venture philanthropy 🔥 If you’re ready to go beyond inspiration into deep transformation, subscribe now. This is not business-as-usual leadership—it’s leadership stripped raw, rebuilt, and set on fire with purpose. Since 'retiring,' her focus has been on philanthropy, especially on autism and IT. Over the last 30 years, Dame Stephanie has given away almost $100 million to good causes, primarily in the fields of autism and IT.  Dame Shirley received her BSc in 1956 and was appointed Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) in the 1980 Birthday Honours[15] for services to industry; Dame Commander of the Order of the British Empire (DBE) in the 2000 New Year Honours for services to information technology.;[16] and Member of the Order of the Companions of Honour (CH) in the 2017 Birthday Honours for services to the IT industry and philanthropy.[17] The CH refers to her Companion of Honour – only 65 people in the world have one Dame Stephanie is a workplace revolutionary, and successful IT entrepreneur turned ardent venture philanthropist. She is the first person to drop off the Time's Rich List, having given away too much of her money, an achievement which gives her great pleasure!  . Website  www.steveshirley.com    Social Media  https://www.facebook.com/DameStephanie   https://twitter.com/DameStephanie_     https://www.linkedin.com/in/lynnhartuk    https://www.instagram.com/damestephanie

From Kindertransport to Tech Dame: Resilience, Philanthropy & the Woman Who Built an Empire of Trust! What does it take to survive war, rewrite the rules of leadership, and give away over $100 million with zero regret? Intro: In this rare and deeply moving episode, we sit down with the late Dame Stephanie Shirley, tech visionary, radical entrepreneur, and one of the most quietly revolutionary forces of the 20th century. You may not know her name, but you’ve lived in a world she helped shape. From arriving in England as a 5-year-old Jewish refugee on the Kindertransport, to founding a software company that employed only women in the 1960s, Dame Shirley didn't just break the rules, she rewrote the playbook with kindness, trust, and extraordinary resilience. . And just wait until you hear why she chose to give away £100 million of her wealth to autism research and social impact. This is not just a history lesson. It’s a masterclass in legacy, purpose, and the courage to lead differently. What You’ll Learn in This Episode: How being a refugee at age 5 forged her leadership DNA Why she built a software empire exclusively for women in 1962 The “iron fist in a velvet glove” management style that helped her survive a male-dominated tech world How remote work was pioneered by her company decades before Zoom Why trust in your people is the foundation of lasting innovation The shocking reason she dropped off the Times Rich List Her battle with depression—and the price of ignoring mental health as a founder The spiritual weight of surviving when others didn’t How she made her life a "life worth saving" Power Quote: “The more you trust people, the more trustworthy they become.” ~ Dame Stephanie Shirley Guest Bio: Dame Stephanie Shirley was a trailblazing tech entrepreneur, refugee, and philanthropist. After escaping Nazi Europe via the Kindertransport, she went on to found one of the UK's first software companies, employing only women. She later gave away over £100 million to causes including autism research, mental health, and technology ethics. Her life was dedicated to making the world, and its systems more human. 📚 Books by Dame Stephanie Shirley: Let It Go So To Speak 🌐 steveshirley.com Subscribe, Rate & Review: If this episode moved you, don't keep it to yourself. Subscribe, rate, and review the show. Your support keeps meaningful conversations alive in the algorithm. 🎧 Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and all major platforms. Suggested Hashtags (Apple Podcast SEO Boost): #DameStephanieShirley #DovBaron #TheDovBaronShow #Kindertransport #WomenInTech #Philanthropy #LegacyLeadership #Resilience #EmotionalLeadership #LeadershipWithTrust #EmpatheticLeadership #MentalHealthInLeadership #TechForGood #RemoteWorkPioneer #AutismAdvocate

End Anxiety, Rewire Self-Sabotage | Tim Shurr’s One Belief Method . What could you do if you could pick one belief and have it vanish in minutes? . In this second half of the conversation, The Dov Baron Show brings you back into the mind of Tim Shurr, globally recognized authority on human performance, author of One Belief Away, featured in the film Zero Limits, and trusted advisor to Fortune 500 executives, elite athletes, military veterans, and TEDx audiences. . In this episode, you’ll discover how to: Pinpoint and replace the root belief that has kept you in cycles of hesitation or burnout, no matter how much you’ve achieved. Stop anxiety instantly using Tim’s 3-step reset trusted by CEOs and elite performers before critical moments. Shift from selling to serving, so you lead conversations with conviction and connection — and inspire action without pressure. Release guilt, anger, or shame and remove the “poison” from past experiences so you can move forward with clarity. Build lasting, unshakable confidence that isn’t dependent on outside validation, but rooted in an upgraded inner identity. . Connect directly with Tim Shurr: . Get free access to his "Secret Training Vault" at https://practiceamplifier.com/trainingvaultoptin Grab a copy of his bestselling book One Belief Away at https://shop.indyhypnosis.com/oba-ebook   Want to work with Tim? https://timshurr.com or https://indyhypnosis.com . If you’ve ever had the skills, the opportunity, and the desire, yet still found yourself holding back, this episode will show you exactly how to rewire the belief that’s been running the show. ABOUT THE HOST: Dov Baron is ranked among the world’s Top 30 Global Leadership Gurus and is a bestselling author, international keynote speaker, and leadership strategist. Known as the architect of “The Emotional Source Code™,” .  Dov works with high-performing CEOs, founders, and changemakers to create cultures of belonging and purpose that drive both performance and meaning. His work has been featured in Inc., Forbes, Entrepreneur, CNN, and other prominent publications. 🎯 Start uncovering your own Emotional Source Code today: https://dovbaron.com FOLLOW: Tim Shurr: Website | LinkedIn | Book: One Belief Away Dov Baron: LinkedIn | Instagram | YouTube #Leadership #Mindset #SelfSabotage #Anxiety #HighPerformance #EmotionalIntelligence #DovBaronShow #TimShurr

Part 1 of 2: The One Belief Sabotaging Your Leadership Success  . What if the biggest threat to your success isn’t the market, your competitors, or even your skills, but a belief You Don’t Know You Have? . In this high-stakes conversation, The Dov Baron Show goes deep into the subconscious patterns that quietly sabotage even the most accomplished leaders. Dov is joined by Tim Shurr, a globally recognized authority on human performance, author of One Belief Away, featured in the film Zero Limits, and a trusted advisor to Fortune 500 executives, elite athletes, and TEDx audiences. . In this episode, you’ll discover how to: Pinpoint your hidden leadership blocker — and remove it without years of therapy or trial and error. Stop anxiety in high-pressure moments with Tim’s 3-step instant reset used by top CEOs before critical deals and speeches. Replace subconscious fear with confidence so you can lead boldly, inspire trust, and scale your vision. Transform your company culture by shifting just one belief at the top — and watch results cascade through every level of your organization. . Want to connect directly with Tim Shurr? Get free access to his "Secret Training Vault" at https://practiceamplifier.com/trainingvaultoptin Grab a copy of his bestselling book One Belief Away at https://shop.indyhypnosis.com/oba-ebook   Want to work with Tim? https://timshurr.com or https://indyhypnosis.com . If you’ve ever hit a wall you couldn’t explain — if you’ve ever wondered why “success” still feels just out of reach, this conversation will expose the invisible wiring that’s been pulling the strings. . ABOUT THE HOST: Dov Baron is ranked among the world’s Top 30 Global Leadership Gurus and is a bestselling author, international keynote speaker, and leadership strategist. Known as the architect of “The Emotional Source Code™,” . Dov works with high-performing CEOs, founders, and changemakers to create cultures of belonging and purpose that drive both performance and meaning. His work has been featured in Inc., Forbes, Entrepreneur, CNN, and more. 🎯 Start uncovering your own Emotional Source Code today: https://dovbaron.com FOLLOW: Tim Shurr: Website | LinkedIn | Book: One Belief Away Dov Baron: LinkedIn | Instagram | YouTube #Leadership #Mindset #SelfSabotage #EmotionalIntelligence #HighPerformance #DovBaronShow #TimShurr

Welcome to The Dov Baron Show, where today we continue to confront a question that few dare to ask in this era of relentless ambition: What happens when everything you’ve worked for—fame, power, wealth—feels utterly empty? . In a world where AI is reshaping industries and pop culture reigns supreme, it’s easy to lose sight of what truly matters. We live in a time where people know more about the Kardashians than the policies shaping our future. And yet, behind the glossy facade of success lies a deeper struggle—a paradox that even the world’s top achievers face. . . This is the second of a two part interview with the brilliant Keren Eldad, author of "Gilded" and executive coach to the world’s elite. Keren has worked with powerhouses like Estée Lauder, LVMH, Deutsche Bank, Nike, and countless others, helping high-flyers who seem to have it all but feel unfulfilled inside. . In this episode, we’re diving into The Super Achievers Paradox—the disconnect between outward success and inner fulfillment. Keren’s personal journey and her work with some of the biggest names in business will reveal how even the highest achievers can find themselves lost in the pursuit of more. But more importantly, she’ll show us the path to rediscovering clarity, joy, and purpose. . Get ready to rethink what true success means. Website www.kereneldad.com Social Media https://www.facebook.com/LiveWithEnthusiasm/ http://www.linkedin.com/in/keren-eldad https://www.instagram.com/coachkeren/?hl=en   Part 2: The Lonely Machiavellian Crossing the Delta Confronting the Self-Perpetuating Illusion Clues from Overwhelm The Secret Jealousy of a #Blessed Life Below The Surface of Apathy, Purposelessness, and Boredom What if it All Goes Away, and it Sucks What if it All Goes Away, and It's Amazing Entering Campbells Cave  Have You Been Accepting Crumbs The Courage to Ask for Something MORE Abundance as the Lie We Tell Ourselves Honest Enough to End of Suffering The Counter Response to The Rising Tide of Authoritarianism  Tell the Truth in a System Built on Lies Confronting Yourself as a Human, Rather than a Resume  Dov Baron's brand new course has just been released on coursifyx.com/belonging ------------- Titled: "CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING." The course is separated into eight sections that will take you by the hand and walk you through exactly how to create a culture of belonging. Because: CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING MAXIMIZES PERSONAL AND CORPORATE SUCCESS.   Get Ready to strap on the tanks and Dive Deep into, What it Takes to Create a Culture of Belonging in your organization! Curious to know more, coursifyx.com/belonging    "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" #videopodcast #leadership #leadershipdevelopment #emotionsourcecode #neuroscience #emotional #meaning #emotional #logic #culture #curiosity #humanbehavior #purpose

In a world where AI reigns and fame is currency, we’re left to wonder—what happens when you have it all, but it still feels like nothing? Welcome to The Dov Baron Show, where today we tackle The Super Achievers Paradox: when success, power, and recognition don’t bring the fulfillment we expect. Our guest is someone who has seen behind the curtain of high achievement—Keren Eldad, executive coach and author of "Guilded." Keren has worked with the world’s top brands—Estée Lauder, LVMH, Deutsche Bank, Nike, and more. She’s coached leaders, hedge fund managers, and high-performing professionals, all seemingly at the pinnacle of success, but who feel lost and disconnected inside. Today, Keren shares her story of navigating that inner struggle and how she now helps superstars redefine success from the inside out. This episode is about reclaiming joy, purpose, and true impact, even when the world says you’ve already made it. If you’ve ever wondered why success doesn’t feel like enough—or how to find meaning beyond the accolades—this is the conversation you can’t afford to miss. Keren, an executive coach for the exceptionally successful, knows firsthand the sacrifices made for external success at the expense of inner fulfillment. With a wealth of experience in prestigious organizations including Estée Lauder, LVMH, Deutsche Bank, Nike, leading global hedge funds and start-ups, and over a thousand professionals within these organizations, Keren understands the frustration of feeling lost while appearing like a superstar. Having emerged from this struggle, Keren now dedicates herself to guiding struggling superstars toward clarity, joy, purpose, and impact. Get ready to embark on a transformative journey with Keren Eldad as she unveils the path to true success from the inside out. Website www.kereneldad.com Social Media https://www.facebook.com/LiveWithEnthusiasm/ http://www.linkedin.com/in/keren-eldad https://www.instagram.com/coachkeren/?hl=en   Part 1: Screaming At The Storm The Wild West of Coaching Real Coaching - First, You Must Carry Your Own Weight Recognizing You Are Living Inside the Superstar Paradox The Right Man, the Right House, and Thin Enough for Instagram When Your Whole World Falls Down and it's Not Enough for a Superstar Life on the Bathroom Floor Owning Toxic Tolerance Why "I Can Handle This" is The Death Rattle of a Super-Achiever Cats, Death, Grief, and the Beginning of Finding Peace Overachievers' Susceptibility to Depression and Anxiety The Biases that Keep the Super Achiever Stuck Doubling Down on Dysfunction When the Ego Raises from the Ashes Like the Terminator Beware of the Wise One Peddling False Wisdom... It Maybe You Identity Addiction You Can't Win or Negotiate Your Way Out Sometimes, it Takes a Disease Are You Committed to Happy Purgatory? Dov Baron's brand new course has just been released on coursifyx.com/belonging ------------- Titled: "CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING." The course is separated into eight sections that will take you by the hand and walk you through exactly how to create a culture of belonging. Because: CREATING A CULTURE OF BELONGING MAXIMIZES PERSONAL AND CORPORATE SUCCESS.   Get Ready to strap on the tanks and Dive Deep into, What it Takes to Create a Culture of Belonging in your organization! Curious to know more, coursifyx.com/belonging    "Those Who Control Meaning for The Tribe, Also Control The Movement of That Tribe" #videopodcast #leadership #leadershipdevelopment #emotionsourcecode #neuroscience #emotional #meaning #emotional #logic #culture #curiosity #humanbehavior #purpose

🎙️ The Skills You Need for “Impossible” Conversations . 👉 What if the very people you’ve written off as “the other side” are the key to healing the deepest divides in your life, and your country? Episode Summary: When was the last time you really listened to someone who fundamentally disagrees with you? Not to debate. Not to win. But to actually understand. In Part 2 of my powerful and enlightening conversation with Simon Greer, founder of Bridging the Gap and one of the most courageous voices in conflict transformation, we move beyond theory into practice.  . This isn’t about “being nice.” It’s about reclaiming our humanity, one conversation at a time. . Simon shares the five core skills that can turn the conversations you dread into the conversations that change everything: 🥊 Strong Back, Soft Front: How to stand in your truth without being rigid or reactive. 👂 The Listening Shift: Why the art of an open-ended question can melt decades of division. 📝 Storytelling for Connection: How sharing your own truth (not just “facts”) can pierce walls facts never will. 🔄 Feedback That Opens Doors: How to disagree without burning the bridge you need to cross. ⚖️ Power Reimagined: Why real power in dialogue isn’t about who’s louder—it’s about who’s willing. . Along the way, you’ll hear Simon recount: .✅ Sitting down with Glenn Beck after a very public conflict, and what happened when he decided to show up with “a strong back and a soft front.” ✅ What mass shooter drills, deer hunting, and gun rights reveal about America’s most profound cultural fissures. ✅ Why “platforming” those we disagree with isn’t a weakness, it’s the only way forward. This episode is a masterclass for any leader, parent, partner, or citizen who’s tired of screaming matches and silent withdrawals, and is ready to step into courageous conversations that could literally change the future. Why Listen: Because staying in your bubble feels safe, but it’s costing us everything. Simon Greer’s Work: Founder of Bridging the Gap | Senior Advisor to One Voice United | Social Healing Pioneer LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-greer-5b8549b2/ ✅ If you’re serious about transforming conflict into connection—start by listening all the way to the end. If this episode hits you where you live (and it will), share it with one person you’ve been avoiding having “the conversation” with. And leave us a review—because that’s how this show sparks the kind of dialogue the world is desperate for. . 📌 Hashtags  #CourageousConversations #BridgingTheGap #Leadership #SimonGreer #DovBaron #FutureOfLeadership #Tribalism #IdentityCrisis #Polarization #HumanConnection

🔥 When was the last time you had a conversation with someone who saw the world completely differently from you… and walked away with more respect, not more rage? SHOW DESCRIPTION: Polarization has become the oxygen we breathe, but what if there’s another way? In this raw, edge-of-your-seat conversation, Dov Baron sits down with Simon Greer, founder of Bridging the Gap, to tackle the question we’re all secretly asking: Can we still talk across divides without losing our minds… or our humanity? . Raised in a left-wing Jewish family on Manhattan’s Upper West Side, Simon grew up in an environment where dinner conversations weren’t just political, they were ideological battlegrounds. His early life, from Jewish Communist summer camps to a career in progressive politics, shaped him into a fighter for “change.” . But here’s the twist: Simon realized he wasn’t just fighting for change, he was fighting to be right. Then came his personal identity crisis. The loss of his job and his carefully crafted “progressive warrior” persona shattered everything. Out of that rubble, he made a radical pivot: seeking out the very people he once demonized, white working-class conservatives, business leaders, evangelical Christians, even prison guards and formerly incarcerated people, to ask a new question: “How can we build bridges without asking anyone to give up their tribe?” 👉 This isn’t about polite bipartisanship. It’s about impossible conversations, sitting down with people who fundamentally disagree with you (even about your eternal soul) and still finding a way to honor each other’s humanity. Simon shares: 🏕️ What Jewish Communist summer camp taught him about identity & tribe (and why those early ideologies still matter). 🥊 How losing everything freed him from a rigid identity — and how that same breaking point might be the catalyst for healing America. 🌉 Why bridging divides isn’t about erasing differences — but honoring them. 📜 The powerful story of a Muslim friend whose family fought Israel — and how they became allies. 🛑 The truth about polarization: It’s not that we have tribes; it’s that we’re being played into them. . This isn’t just another podcast episode. It’s a field guide for leaders who are ready to do the uncomfortable work of listening, learning, and leading differently. About Simon Greer . Simon Greer is the founder of Bridging the Gap, a national initiative training the next generation of civic leaders to engage across divides with honesty and courage. He has advised movements, mentored changemakers, and spent decades at the intersection of faith, politics, and social change. Contact Simon Greer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/simon-greer-5b8549b2/   What You’ll Learn in This Episode ✅ Why “normal” isn’t healthy, it’s just what you grew up with. ✅ How to push past the billboard version of someone to find the real human underneath. ✅ Why identity-shattering moments (even job loss) can be the greatest gift you never wanted. ✅ The difference between bipartisanship and true bridging — and why the latter is harder, deeper, and absolutely necessary. ✅ How to hold your tribe with pride, without turning someone else’s tribe into the enemy. 🎧 This Episode Will Hook You to the End This conversation is uncomfortably honest, deeply human, and wildly hopeful. It doesn’t offer kumbaya clichés. Instead, it asks you to step into the messy, sacred middle, where the future of leadership, and perhaps the country lies. 💥 Listener Challenge After listening, ask yourself: What’s one “impossible” conversation I’ve been avoiding… and what might happen if I had it?   📌 Hashtags for Apple & LinkedIn Discovery #CourageousConversations #BridgingTheGap #Leadership #SimonGreer #DovBaron #FutureOfLeadership #Tribalism #IdentityCrisis #Polarization #HumanConnection