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Amy Odell
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Jan 19, 2026 • 11min
Retail Confessions: Inside Harrods — Demanding Shoppers and the Rules of the Ultra-Rich
On this holiday episode of The Back Row Podcast, Amy Odell shares a special installment of Retail Confessions, featuring an anonymous interview with a former Harrods sales associate.
The interviewee discussed what it was really like working on the shop floor at one of the world’s most famous luxury department stores — from intense sales pressure and demanding clients to the unspoken rules of the über-rich. To preserve anonymity, the interviewee’s responses are read by Amy’s husband, Rick.
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Jan 12, 2026 • 34min
The Recession of Size Inclusion in Fashion (with Lauren Chan)
Lauren Chan, a model, writer, and entrepreneur, delves into the troubling trend of reduced size inclusion in fashion. She recounts a Fashion Week experience highlighting the lack of designer samples for a size-12/14 talent, emphasizing the industry's detrimental impact on visibility and careers for bigger bodies. The conversation explores how AI might affect body diversity, challenges tied to the resurgence of 'straight size' models, and the importance of representation for youth. Lauren champions advocacy and the role of social media in driving change.

Jan 5, 2026 • 31min
Emily in Paris vs. Real French Style
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or Spotify. In part two, Amy gets Dana Thomas's thoughts on Emily in Paris after watching it for the first time; how French attitudes toward plastic surgery compare to those in America; and how the French feel about the Bezos billionaire lifestyle.
In this episode of the Back Row podcast, veteran fashion journalist Dana Thomas joins Amy Odell to talk about Emily in Paris! She reveals what it was really like to actually live the fantasy of moving to Paris at 18 years old to work in fashion, how it influenced her style, and how actual French fashion is so different from the show.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Why Emily in Paris works as fantasy
01:30 Dana Thomas’s real “Emily in Paris” story
03:40 Modeling and learning French beauty and style rules
06:40 French chic vs. American cool
09:50 Life as a teenage model in the 1980s
12:00 Falling in love and moving to Paris
14:00 How French women actually dress
17:20 Scarves are very important
22:30 The French style formula, explained
26:20 Handbags, pockets, and why French women don’t carry much
29:00 Men’s style in Paris vs. the "Emily in Paris" fantasy
Links & Resources:
Back Row newsletter
Amy Odell - Instagram
Dana Thomas
Instagram
Deluxe (book)
Gods & Kings (book)
Fashionopolis (book)
Style Files (newsletter)
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Dec 29, 2025 • 28min
How Gwyneth Paltrow's Extreme Diet Sparked a 'Detox' Craze
Gwyneth Paltrow has long been known for promoting various wellness fads that drive experts crazy. Long before she was publicly singing the praises of raw dairy products, she would publish "detox" diets each January. These were the foundation of Goop's wellness business. In this excerpt from Amy's latest book Gwyneth: The Biography, hear about how Goop began, how its viral diet advice generated great controversy (along with invaluable notoriety) in its early days, and how health and medical experts felt about it all.
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Audio excerpt courtesy of Simon & Schuster Audio from Gwyneth by Amy Odell, read by Chante McCormick. Copyright © 2025 by Amy Odell. Used with permission of Simon & Schuster, Inc.
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Dec 22, 2025 • 37min
Anna Wintour, the Bezos Met Gala, and the Politics of Condé Nast (with Good Noticings)
What can we glean about Condé Nast's politics from recent current events? Teen Vogue has been shuttered, but Vanity Fair's Trump 2.0 package was a journalistic achievement of the sort rarely seen these days. Anna Wintour is a known Democratic supporter and fundraiser, yet she's been cozying up to the Trump-supporting Bezoses for Met Gala money. Amy Odell is joined by comedians and cultural critics Claire Parker and Ashley Hamilton, who host the highly addictive and excellent Good Noticings podcast, to figure out what this all says about Condé Nast right now. Plus, Melania Trump’s $40 million documentary, and how it ties back to all of this.
Chapters:
0:00 – Welcoming the Good Noticings podcast
0:37 – Vanity Fair’s major Trump 2.0 article and what it says about Condé Nast
4:42 – Anna Wintour is leaning into controversy
6:30 – Why did the Trump team do the Vanity Fair story?
7:15 – Christopher Anderson’s photo spread
8:53 – The discourse around Karoline Leavitt’s lip filler
15:16 – Reacting to Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez Bezos sponsoring the Met Gala
25:34 – The fashion relevancy of Melania Trump’s $40 million documentary
29:26 – Would Vogue put Melania on the cover? Speculation!
33:06 – How will controversy affect the Met Gala’s future?
Links & Resources:
Good Noticings Podcast
Apple
Spotify
TikTok: @goodnoticingspod
Instagram: @goodnoticingspodThe Olivia Nuzzi Good Noticings episode
Claire Parker Instagram: @clairethescare
Ashley Hamilton Instagram: @ashleyhammm
Back Row Newsletter
YouTube
Amy Odell Instagram Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 19, 2025 • 7min
Gwyneth Paltrow's Strategic 'Marty Supreme' Fashion Game
Can a 2.5-hour artsy, originally scripted film open at the box office? The Marty Supreme cast is so determined to get us to the theater for this movie that they're wearing full monochromatic orange for promotional appearances. Gwyneth Paltrow is being strategic with her fashion choices in other ways, and helping daughter Apple's prospects in the process.
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Dec 15, 2025 • 45min
Rachel Zoe's 'Real Housewives' Debut (with Brian Moylan)
Brian Moylan, a renowned Real Housewives expert and author, joins to dissect Rachel Zoe's compelling debut on RHOBH. They explore the motivations behind Rachel's casting, comparing her fashion influence to others in the game. Moylan provides a hilarious recap of Rachel's standout moments and delves into the mystery of Mauricio's supposed Chanel couch. Discussions on fashion branding and how reality TV serves as a platform for designers add depth, while personal insights about Rachel's life and her recent split keep the conversation engaging.

Dec 11, 2025 • 5min
Versace's Second Shocker and Fashion's Great Unsettling
This is the audio version of the Back Row newsletter published December 9, 2025.
0:16 - Fashion enters its "great unsettling"
1:47 - Prada Group acquires Versace
2:24 - Broader instability across the fashion industry
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Dec 8, 2025 • 35min
How Social Media Broke Fashion (and Everything Else) with Taylor Lorenz
Tech journalist and creator @TaylorLorenz joins Amy Odell on the Back Row podcast to explain how social media has completely reshaped fashion. From the backlash against fashion creators to why facts barely matter online, they dive into Vogue World, The Row's viral sample sale, and more.
Taylor, formerly at The Atlantic, The New York Times, and The Washington Post, now runs her own newsletter, podcast, and YouTube channel covering the creator economy.
Chapters:
00:00 – Intro: Amy Odell welcomes Taylor Lorenz
00:53 – Why fashion people are frustrated with social media
01:49 – Why audiences trust creators more than experts
02:42 – How algorithms reward outrage
03:36 – Why being first beats being accurate
04:25 – “Facts don’t matter”: the validation economy
05:55 – Platforms secretly boost and suppress creators
06:41 – Why follower count no longer matters
07:29 – The death of critics (and why creators can’t be honest)
08:15 – Will AI actually help creators?
11:40 – How creators really make money in 2025
12:38 – Advent calendars, meme marketing, and virality
14:23 – The Row sample sale goes viral
16:55 – Can fashion brands control their image? (No.)
18:36 – The famous "Open letter to The Row"
19:32 – Brands vs creators: a toxic relationship
20:20 – Why brands can’t stop creators from posting
22:05 – Why chasing access will break your heart
22:49 – Anna Wintour’s decline and cultural relevance
25:08 – Vogue World and the struggle for relevance
26:41 – The Met Gala red carpet isn’t what it used to be
29:46 – The Devil Wears Prada prequel problem
30:38 – What it takes to survive online long-term
32:13 – Why Becca Bloom fascinates people
33:15 – The obsession with “capitalism slop”
34:07 – Hustle culture and the fantasy of success
Links & Resources:
Back Row newsletter
https://amyodell.substack.com
Amy Odell Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/instamyodell/
Taylor Lorenz
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TaylorLorenz
User Mag (Newsletter): https://www.usermag.co/
Power User (Podcast): https://open.spotify.com/show/5iganPXXEoTDB9lIQzY7Fh
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/taylor-lorenzs-power-user/id1733535260
Creators / links mentioned
"Open Letter to The Row" (Neelam Noted): https://neelamahooja.substack.com/p/open-letter-to-the-row-we-need-to Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 3, 2025 • 9min
What Fashion's Wealthy 'Very Important Clients' Want and Gift for the Holidays
"Hermès playing cards are my go-to."
Chapters:
01:35 - VIC no. 1: The Expat Living in Dubai
03:10 - VIC no. 2: The Personal Shopper for Upper East Siders
03:32 - VIC no. 3: The expat living in Hong Kong
05:31 - VIC no. 4: The New Yorker who's feeling uninspired
06:42 - VIC no. 5: The Personal Stylist to Upper East Side Billionaires and Centi-Millionaires
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