
Unlabeled Leadership
Unlabeled Leadership is a volunteer-led service that shares stories about leadership. Rather than using labels that mystify and obscure the meaning of leadership, Gary DePaul and guests share personal leadership stories. Listeners are from 90 countries and 1,030 cities (or territories). 32 podcast platforms broadcast Unlabeled Leadership episodes.
About Gary A. DePaul, PhD: https://www.garyadepaul.com
Latest episodes

Jul 19, 2022 • 28min
151 Baiba Žiga Encourages Growth and Systemic Change
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 151, Baiba Žiga talks about what a mentor said that helped her re-evaluate her views on work. She then shares a story about a difficult period of her life in Finland and what she learned from the experience. Next, Baiba shares advice on how we can strengthen our leadership.
Prologue
A brilliant DEI and workplace culture consultant, Baiba Žiga has helped thousands of professionals through her speaking events, leadership coaching, and KOPA, a DEI community. She hosts LinkedIn Live events as well as the 21st Century Change Agent. Baiba is well connected to global professionals who strive to positively change the world.
01:32 Part 1: Re-evaluate How You Work
11:15 Part 2: Finland, Systemic Thinking, and Asking Powerful Questions
24:09 Part 3: The Best Leadership Investment You Can Make
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Robynne Orr is the opening voice narrator. To learn more about her amazing storytelling capabilities, visit Robynne’s website, R.ORR.
Transcript through Otter (expect some inaccuracies)
Episode links
Baiba’s LinkedIn Profile, website, Twitter, Instagram
LinkedIn videos
Unlock the Power of Questions
Evolving Intercultural Communications
Evolving Emotional Literacy
Sally Mousa's LinkedIn profile
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary's books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership (Second Edition)
The 2022 HRBP Report (free formats available)
Lead on!

Jun 28, 2022 • 22min
150: Erik Reis Illustrates the Essence of Leadership
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 150, Erik Reis talks about what his father said that affected his outlook on life. He describes what he learned from workers about his father while working at his father’s business. The experience influenced how he leads. Finally, Erik advises us to meet people where they are.
Prologue
Credentials, schooling, or people’s opinions do not define who Erik is. He defines his life by his continuous pursuit of knowledge, experience, and building relationship. Erik co-founded Nobody Studios where he is the Director of Health and Wellness. His amazing team is ideating, creating, and innovating progressive companies within the healthcare field.
01:58 Part 1: Self-care and Labeling Your Experiences
07:51 Part 2: Helping People to be the Best Version of Themselves
16:33 Part 3: Meet Others Where They Are at
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Robynne Orr is the opening voice narrator. To learn more about her amazing storytelling capabilities, visit Robynne’s website, R.ORR.
Transcript through Otter (expect some inaccuracies)
Episode links
Erik’s LinkedIn Profile
Nobody Studios
Episode 099: Mark McNally Has the Courage to Embrace Transparency
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary's books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership (Second Edition)
The 2022 HRBP Report (free formats available)
Lead on!

Jun 15, 2022 • 22min
149: Caroline Harth Helps You Own and Communicate Your Story
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 149, Caroline Harth talks about a Brené Brown quotation. She then shares her journey from being in a law firm to owning her communication consulting business. Caroline then explains how you can own your own story.
Prologue
Caroline's WHY is to guide others in owning their story.
She helps clients clearly communicate who they are and why they matter. Doing so empowers clients to embrace leadership. Caroline knows the power of empathy in business and how authenticity helps professionals craft their unique voices in the corporate world. She is the Founder of Harthcommunications, a cutting-edge communications consultancy rooted in authentic storytelling. Caroline has earned her Ph.D. in legal history and theory of law.
01:53 Part 1: Walking Inside Your Story
11:13 Part 2: From Law to Communications
15:49 Part 3: How to Own Your Story
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Robynne Orr is the opening voice narrator. To learn more about her amazing storytelling capabilities, visit Robynne’s website, R.ORR.
Transcript through Otter (expect some inaccuracies)
Episode links
Caroline’s LinkedIn Profile, website, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Vimeo, YouTube
Brené Brown’s book, Rising Strong
Glennon Doyle’s book, Untamed
Mark Manson’s books
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary's books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership (Second Edition)
The 2022 HRBP Report (free formats available)
Lead on!

Jun 9, 2022 • 15min
148: Alan Carroll Explains Mindful Practice (Bonus)
For bonus episodes, I share conversations that occur between a regular episode’s segments. For Episode 148, Alan Carroll shares the STOP technique and discusses whether keynote speakers should practice frequently or be spontaneous. He then explains what Transpersonal Psychology is.
Prologue
Alan is passionate about giving people the experience of mindfulness and presence through public speaking. Alan is a seeker who discovered his passion for coaching people in the 1970s. He is the founder of Alan Carroll & Associates, which offers mindfulness in action workshops. Alan graduated from San Jose State University with a Masters in Psychology and is the author of The Broadband Connection.
01:22 Part 1: Still the Mind with the STOP Technique
Alan shares a technique that he learned from a podcast with Deepak Chopra.
S: Stop
T: Three breathes
O: Observe your breath or body sensations
P: Proceed with kindness (awareness and compassion)
06:20 Part 2: Keynote Speaking: Practice or Improvise?
I ask Alan for his opinion about whether keynote speakers should frequently practice their talks or if they should improvise.
12:17 Part 3: Defining Transpersonal Psychology
Alan is a Transpersonal Psychologist. I asked Alan to explain what Transpersonal Psychology is.
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Robynne Orr is the opening voice narrator. To learn more about her amazing storytelling capabilities, visit Robynne’s website, R.ORR.
Transcript through Otter (expect some inaccuracies)
Episode links
Alan’s LinkedIn Profile
Alan’s company website, LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram
Alan’s book, The Broadband Connection
Business Insider text and video, Deepak Chopra offers advice on how to manage stress and find meaning during the pandemic
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary's books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership (Second Edition)
The 2022 HRBP Report (free formats available)
Lead on!

Jun 7, 2022 • 22min
147: Alan Carroll Takes Speaking and Communicating to a New Level
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 147, Alan Carroll talks about leveraging time and space when communicating. He shares a story about accepting vulnerability while training to become a speaker. He then uses an analogy from the book, Jonathan Livingston Seagull.
Prologue
Alan is passionate about giving people the experience of mindfulness and presence through public speaking. Alan is a seeker who discovered his passion for coaching people in the 1970s. He is the founder of Alan Carroll & Associates, which offers mindfulness in action workshops. Alan graduated from San Jose State University with a Masters in Psychology and is the author of The Broadband Connection.
00:56 Part 1: Perform Your Thoughts with Sounds and Silence
10:10 Part 2: Risk Vulnerability to Grow
17:06 Part 3: Taking a Full Breath
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Robynne Orr is the opening voice narrator. To learn more about her amazing storytelling capabilities, visit Robynne’s website, R.ORR.
Transcript through Otter (expect some inaccuracies)
Episode links
Alan’s LinkedIn Profile
Alan’s company website, LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram
Alan’s book, The Broadband Connection
Richard Bach’s book, Jonathan Livingston Seagull
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary’s books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership (Second Edition)
The 2022 HRBP Report (free formats available)
Lead on!

May 17, 2022 • 27min
146: Sherri McManus and Lou Everett Lead from The Heart
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 146, Sherri McManus and Lou Everett share two John Maxwell quotations, illustrate the practice of leadership in two stories, and advise us on how we can lead more effectively.
Prologue
Sherri and Lou co-own the Lou Everett Group. Sherri is the COO and Executive Leadership Coach, and Lou is the CEO, Business and Leadership Coach. They co-own The Lou Everett Group and are known for their highly effective coaching, teaching, and speaking on the importance of personal growth and how it impacts our Influence as a Leader. Both are Certified Leadership Coaches and Corporate Trainers.
01:33 Part 1: Miracles Happen During Transitions
07:59 Part 2: Policies and Processes Obscure Leadership Practices
19:13 Part 3: Work-Life Harmony
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Robynne Orr is the opening voice narrator. To learn more about her amazing storytelling capabilities, visit Robynne’s website, R.ORR.
Transcript through Otter (expect some inaccuracies)
Episode links
Sherri’s LinkedIn Profile,
Lou’s LinkedIn Profile,
Company website, Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, Alignable, YouTube
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary's books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership (Second Edition)
The 2022 HRBP Report (free formats available)
Lead on!

May 12, 2022 • 13min
145: Csaba Toth Shares Examples of Cognitive Challenges (Bonus)
In the bonus Episode 145, Csaba Toth talks about the amount of work needed to become accomplished. Gary shares with Csaba one of his heroes, Daryl Davis. This leads to a discussion about bridging the gap of differences. Then, Csaba explains how our biases work to find evidence for our beliefs.
Prologue
A native of Hungary and now a UK resident, Csaba has 15 years of experience in setting up start-ups and working with Fortune 500 companies, government agencies, and entrepreneurs. He is a best-selling author and the founder of ICQ Global, a people development organization with more than 160 licensed partners in 42 countries. Csaba has certified more than 80 coaches and consultants globally.
01:22 Part 1: The Unglamorous Side of Entrepreneurs, Coaches, Therapists, and Athletes
03:24 Part 2: Gary’s Hero Is Daryl Davis
08:53 Part 3: Good News Doesn’t Sell
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Robynne Orr is the opening voice narrator. To learn more about her amazing storytelling capabilities, visit Robynne’s website, R.ORR.
Transcript through Otter (expect some inaccuracies)
Episode links
Csaba’s LinkedIn Profile, website, Instagram,
Csaba’s book, Uncommon Sense in Unusual Times
Csaba’s Forbes articles
Example Articles by Csaba, two questions and follow-up
Dunning-Kruger Effect
Cognitive Dissonance
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary's books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership (Second Edition)
The 2022 HRBP Report (free formats available)
Lead on!

May 10, 2022 • 23min
144: Csaba Toth Focuses on Accurate Thinking
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 144, Csaba Toth explains what a teacher said that is the basis of part of his business. He shares how a Vice President encouraged his managers to develop their leadership. Csaba then advises how we can strengthen how we lead.
Prologue
A native of Hungary and now a UK resident, Csaba has 15 years of experience in setting up start-ups and working with Fortune 500 companies, government agencies, and entrepreneurs. He is a best-selling author and the founder of ICQ Global, a people development organization with more than 160 licensed partners in 42 countries. Csaba has certified more than 80 coaches and consultants globally.
01:53 Part 1: Our Perception Depends on the Quantity and Quality of Information
Csaba explains that the biggest distance between two people is a misunderstanding. Csaba talks about his teenage years, how he studied martial arts, and what a teacher told him. Csaba built a business around what the teacher said.
07:39 Part 2: The Fragility of Certainty and Agreeability
In this story, Csaba explains how a Vice President interacted with regional managers to build their leadership capabilities.
14:47 Part 3: Leveling Up and Self-Inclusion
Csaba advises us to develop purposeful doubt and be blissfully dissatisfied. Csaba also talks about cognitive flexibility, the effect of echo chambers, craving certainty, and knowing yourself.
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Robynne Orr is the opening voice narrator. To learn more about her amazing storytelling capabilities, visit Robynne’s website, R.ORR.
Transcript through Otter (expect some inaccuracies)
Episode links
Csaba’s LinkedIn Profile, website, Instagram, Twitter
Csaba’s book, Uncommon Sense in Unusual Times
Csaba’s Forbes articles
Example Articles by Csaba, two questions and follow-up
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary's books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership (Second Edition)
The 2022 HRBP Report (free formats available)
Lead on!

May 3, 2022 • 20min
143: Mariah and Byron Edgington Clarify that You Are More Than Enough
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 143, Mariah and Byron Edgington explain the phrase, “You are more than enough.” They then share stories about how people can lift others up. Next, Byron and Mariah share advice on how we can lead more effectively.
Prologue
While Mariah is a retired critical care and emergency nurse, and Byron is a retired helicopter pilot and an Army veteran, both co-authored the new book, Journey Well, You Are More Than Enough. Byron is the author of multiple books, and they both write for BIZCATALYST 360°.
01:31 Part 1: Lifting Others and Appreciating Them
Byron and Mariah explain the phrase, “You are more than enough.” The phrase comes from the title of their new book. Mariah advises how to communicate your message to a broader audience on social media.
09:50 Part 2: Small Acts that Lift Others
Byron shares a story from his work as a commercial helicopter pilot for a hospital. Later, Mariah talks about how acknowledging someone can lift them up.
15:42 Part 3: Vulnerability and Reducing Imposter Syndrome
Byron advises us to embrace vulnerability, and Mariah talks about believing in being worthy.
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Robynne Orr is the opening voice narrator. To learn more about her amazing storytelling capabilities, visit Robynne’s website, R.ORR.
Transcript through Otter (expect some inaccuracies)
Episode links
Mariah’s LinkedIn Profile, website
Byron’s LinkedIn Profile, website, Facebook
Their course on Udemy, Journey Well, You Are More Than Enough
Their book, Journey Well, You Are More Than Enough
Byron’s articles on Bizcatalyst360
Mariah’s articles on Bizcatalyst360
Brené Brown, TEDxHouston, The Power of Vulnerability
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary's books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership (Second Edition)
The 2022 HRBP Report (free formats available)
Lead on!

Apr 28, 2022 • 7min
142: Keith E. Smith Cultivates Infectious Energy (Bonus)
I invite guests to share personal stories about acts of leadership that help shape their lives. In Episode 142, I describe Doshi and McGregor’s three direct motivators. Keith then describes switching to be, do have to experience peace, power, and flow.
Prologue
Keith E. Smith, CEO of Vonco Products, a leading medical device contract manufacturing and consumer flexible packaging producer, has made some recent life-balancing changes that opened him to lead more through connection than strategy.
01:10 Switch to Be Do Have
I begin by describing Doshi and McGregor’s three direct motivators: play, purpose, and potential. Keith explains that we need to switch to be, do, and have, which leads to experiencing peace, power, and flow.
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Robynne Orr is the opening voice narrator. To learn more about her amazing storytelling capabilities, visit Robynne’s website, R.ORR.
Transcript through Otter (expect some inaccuracies)
Episode links
Keith’s LinkedIn Profile and website
His company’s website
Two of Keith’s articles:
Unlocking The Potential of Having It All: Part I – The Path of Force
Unlocking The Potential to Having It All: Part II, The Path of Power
Neel Doshi and Lindsay McGregor’s book, Primed to Perform
Gary DePaul’s website
Gary's books:
What the Heck Is Leadership and Why Should I Care?
Nine Practices of 21st Century Leadership (Second Edition)
The 2022 HRBP Report (free formats available)
Lead on!
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