
Talking Church
Talking Church is a podcast hosted by River Valley Network that discusses trends in the church and culture. In each episode, you will learn from ministry leaders on a variety of subjects, develop your leadership skills and break new growth barriers!
Latest episodes

Jul 15, 2025 • 48min
Why Most Churches Miss 20% of Their Community
Logan sits down with Joe Butler, founder of Ability Tree, to discuss the heart and mission of disability ministry. Joe shares his powerful personal journey as a parent to a child with multiple disabilities and how it shaped his calling to make Jesus accessible to all. They dive into the challenges families face when attending church and offer practical steps churches can take to foster true inclusion. This conversation will inspire and equip leaders to better serve the 1 in 5 families impacted by disability.Want to connect with Ability Tree? Reach out to Joe butler:Website: https://www.abilitytree.org/Email: info@abilitytree.orgPhone: (855) 288 - 6735 ext. 702

Jul 8, 2025 • 37min
Being a Proud Charismatic - Nathan Finochio
In this episode, Nathan Finochio gets real about the messy beauty of charismatic church life, the ups and downs of being creative, and why Gen Z might just be the new rebels—by going old school. He brings hilarious stories, honest moments, and plenty of wisdom that’ll leave you both thinking and smiling. Whether you’re leading in ministry, chasing a creative dream, or just trying to find where you fit, this episode will speak to you.River Valley Conference 2025 - City Campus - Minneapolis, MN

Jul 1, 2025 • 42min
Builders, Keepers, Multipliers
In this inspiring and practical message, Pastor Rob Ketterling shares the unbelievable story of how River Valley bought their City Campus—highlighting God’s provision and bold faith. He unpacks what it means to be a Builder, Keeper, or Multiplier in ministry, offering real talk, humor, and leadership wisdom for every stage of church growth. Whether you’re just starting out or leading at a high level, this message will challenge and encourage you.River Valley Conference 2025 - City Campus - Minneapolis, MN

Jun 24, 2025 • 48min
Becoming Confident as a Leader
In this compelling and transparent conversation, Pastor Julian Lowe shares his deeply personal journey of unexpected calling, spiritual crisis, and rediscovered purpose. Set against the backdrop of taking over Oasis Church just months before the COVID-19 pandemic, Julian opens up to Logan about leadership, identity, and what it really means to live for “forever glory” over momentary success.

Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 5min
My wife joins the podcast! Our Story of Ministry Pressure, Infertility, & God's Goodness.
In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Logan finally sits down with his wife Mac to share their journey through marriage, ministry, and some of life’s most painful challenges. They share how they met, what it was like stepping into ministry life, and open up about their struggles with infertility, multiple miscarriages, and Mac’s long search for answers about her health. Through vulnerability and honesty, they reflect on how these trials have shaped their faith, strengthened their marriage, and taught them to trust God in the valleys as much as on the mountaintops. If you’ve ever walked through something heavy or needed a reminder that you’re not alone, this one’s for you.

May 27, 2025 • 1h 15min
The Ultimate Guide to Church Finances - Steve Chaney
Ever wonder if your church is making hidden financial mistakes? In this episode, Pastor Logan sits down with CFO Steve Chaney, who has helped over 1,100 churches overcome financial pitfalls. They unpack the biggest mistakes churches unknowingly make—from outdated systems draining ministry time, to payroll confusion and budgeting challenges. Whether you're a pastor, leader, or just passionate about your church thriving, this conversation will equip you with practical insights to steward resources wisely. Don't let finances hold your ministry back!Interested in reaching out to Steve? Find him here! https://chaneyassociates.com/

May 13, 2025 • 44min
Becoming Confident in Delegation | Rob Ketterling
In this episode Logan is joined by Pastor Rob to unpack the mindset shifts every pastor and church leader needs to embrace healthy, effective delegation. From letting go of guilt to stewarding critical leadership moments, you'll gain practical insight into leading without burning out. Learn how to empower others while focusing on the 5% of your role that only you can do.

Apr 29, 2025 • 1h 48min
Gabe Finochio & Jon Rush | The Dangers of People Pleasing
Logan is joined by Gabriel Finochio and Jon Rush to discuss the tension between truth and likability in Christian leadership, exploring how boldness in speaking truth often clashes with the desire to be accepted. They candidly discuss topics like the baptism of the Holy Spirit, cultural compromise in the church, and how modern Christians engage with theology—online and in-person. Through personal stories, theological insights, and humor, the conversation challenges listeners to consider where and how Christians should unapologetically address tough topics.

Apr 15, 2025 • 1h 1min
Dr. Allen Tennison & Martha Tennison | Preparing for The Worst Day of Your Life
Dr. Allen Tennison and Reverend Martha Tennison join Logan to recount a heartbreaking chapter in their church's history. In 1988, a devastating bus accident claimed 27 lives—24 of them were youth group students. Reverend Martha reflects on how she and her late husband, Don, navigated the unimaginable loss with unwavering strength, wisdom, and compassion. Dr. Allen shares his personal perspective as a survivor of the accident and processing this magnitude of loss as a teen.

Apr 1, 2025 • 54min
Best Marriage Advice from Henry & Alex Seeley @ Belonging Co.
We hit the road in Nashville this week! Join us in this insightful episode as Pastors Henry and Alex Seeley candidly share the ups, downs, and their favorite moments from nearly three decades of marriage and ministry together. They reveal key insights every couple—whether in ministry or not—can learn from. If you're looking to deepen your relationships and lead with purpose, this podcast is one you won't want to miss!--To learn more about Pastor Alex and Henry you can visit their YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBelongingCo or their website at https://thebelonging.co/