
Talking Church
Talking Church is a podcast hosted by River Valley Network that discusses trends in the church and culture. In each episode, you will learn from ministry leaders on a variety of subjects, develop your leadership skills and break new growth barriers!
Latest episodes

Jun 10, 2025 • 1h 5min
My wife joins the podcast! Our Story of Ministry Pressure, Infertility, & God's Goodness.
In this powerful and deeply personal episode, Logan finally sits down with his wife Mac to share their journey through marriage, ministry, and some of life’s most painful challenges. They share how they met, what it was like stepping into ministry life, and open up about their struggles with infertility, multiple miscarriages, and Mac’s long search for answers about her health. Through vulnerability and honesty, they reflect on how these trials have shaped their faith, strengthened their marriage, and taught them to trust God in the valleys as much as on the mountaintops. If you’ve ever walked through something heavy or needed a reminder that you’re not alone, this one’s for you.

May 27, 2025 • 1h 15min
The Ultimate Guide to Church Finances - Steve Chaney
Ever wonder if your church is making hidden financial mistakes? In this episode, Pastor Logan sits down with CFO Steve Chaney, who has helped over 1,100 churches overcome financial pitfalls. They unpack the biggest mistakes churches unknowingly make—from outdated systems draining ministry time, to payroll confusion and budgeting challenges. Whether you're a pastor, leader, or just passionate about your church thriving, this conversation will equip you with practical insights to steward resources wisely. Don't let finances hold your ministry back!Interested in reaching out to Steve? Find him here! https://chaneyassociates.com/

May 13, 2025 • 44min
Becoming Confident in Delegation | Rob Ketterling
In this episode Logan is joined by Pastor Rob to unpack the mindset shifts every pastor and church leader needs to embrace healthy, effective delegation. From letting go of guilt to stewarding critical leadership moments, you'll gain practical insight into leading without burning out. Learn how to empower others while focusing on the 5% of your role that only you can do.

Apr 29, 2025 • 1h 48min
Gabe Finochio & Jon Rush | The Dangers of People Pleasing
Logan is joined by Gabriel Finochio and Jon Rush to discuss the tension between truth and likability in Christian leadership, exploring how boldness in speaking truth often clashes with the desire to be accepted. They candidly discuss topics like the baptism of the Holy Spirit, cultural compromise in the church, and how modern Christians engage with theology—online and in-person. Through personal stories, theological insights, and humor, the conversation challenges listeners to consider where and how Christians should unapologetically address tough topics.

Apr 15, 2025 • 1h 1min
Dr. Allen Tennison & Martha Tennison | Preparing for The Worst Day of Your Life
Dr. Allen Tennison and Reverend Martha Tennison join Logan to recount a heartbreaking chapter in their church's history. In 1988, a devastating bus accident claimed 27 lives—24 of them were youth group students. Reverend Martha reflects on how she and her late husband, Don, navigated the unimaginable loss with unwavering strength, wisdom, and compassion. Dr. Allen shares his personal perspective as a survivor of the accident and processing this magnitude of loss as a teen.

Apr 1, 2025 • 54min
Best Marriage Advice from Henry & Alex Seeley @ Belonging Co.
We hit the road in Nashville this week! Join us in this insightful episode as Pastors Henry and Alex Seeley candidly share the ups, downs, and their favorite moments from nearly three decades of marriage and ministry together. They reveal key insights every couple—whether in ministry or not—can learn from. If you're looking to deepen your relationships and lead with purpose, this podcast is one you won't want to miss!--To learn more about Pastor Alex and Henry you can visit their YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TheBelongingCo or their website at https://thebelonging.co/

Mar 18, 2025 • 57min
10 Reasons Why People Resist Change | Keith Peterson
Change is a constant in ministry, but it’s not always easy to lead. Keith Peterson joins Logan to explore why people in your congregation and leadership teams resist change—from the fear of losing control and facing uncertainty to concerns about competence and the weight of past experiences. With practical insights and faith-centered perspectives, this podcast equips church leaders to navigate the challenges of change with wisdom, empathy, and confidence.

Mar 4, 2025 • 40min
The Most Significant Discovery Since the Dead Sea Scrolls
The Megiddo Mosaic, discovered in an Israeli prison, is the oldest known Christian church floor, dating back 1,800 years. Built during a time of persecution, it boldly proclaims "Jesus is Lord" instead of "Caesar is Lord." In Washington, D.C., Logan spoke with Dr. Bobby Duke from the Museum of the Bible about its history, the logistics of its transport, and its significance as the most important Christian discovery since the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Feb 18, 2025 • 39min
Better Storytelling, Book Writing Hacks, and Humble Success
Mark Batterson, a renowned pastor and bestselling author, shares his insights on the art of storytelling. He emphasizes the importance of authentic communication and how personal stories resonate more than mere concepts. Mark discusses finding purpose and creativity in work, detailing the challenges of originality and the dedication needed for writing. He highlights the value of humility in leadership and mentorship, encouraging lifelong learning. The conversation is a treasure trove for aspiring writers and leaders, inspiring them to embrace their unique journeys.

Feb 4, 2025 • 50min
Secrets To Avoid Ministry Burnout | Dr. Don Lichi
In this episode of Talking Church, Logan sits down with Dr. Don Lichi, a licensed psychologist and ministry leader, to tackle one of the biggest threats facing pastors and ministry leaders today. Together they explore practical steps to protect your heart, strengthen your faith, and build healthy rhythms that sustain long-term ministry.