
Swan Signal Live - A Bitcoin Show
Swan Signal Live brings you interviews, news, analysis, and commentary on Bitcoin, macro, finance, and how Bitcoin is the foundation for a brighter future for us all.
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Jun 27, 2025 • 1h 3min
Farewell to Steven + Bitcoin Hits the Mortgage Market
In this special episode of Swan Signal Live, the team bids a heartfelt farewell to longtime host Steven Lubka as he steps away from his regular role. Steven reflects on nearly five transformative years at Swan, building Swan Private and helping onboard thousands of high-net-worth individuals into Bitcoin. Emotions run high as the crew reminisces on shared experiences and growth.The discussion then dives into major Bitcoin developments:Bitcoin in Mortgages: The FHFA is reportedly guiding Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to recognize Bitcoin as an asset in mortgage underwriting — a shift that could help Bitcoiners qualify more easily without having to sell their holdings.Texas Bitcoin Treasury: Texas becomes the first U.S. state to establish a Bitcoin reserve, allocating $10M in a move widely seen as symbolic but historic.Bitcoin Treasury Companies: The hosts dissect the growing trend of public companies accumulating Bitcoin on their balance sheets, discussing the implications for decentralization, nationalization risks, regulatory arbitrage, and Bitcoin’s long-term monetization.ECB’s Capital Control Signals: A concerning ECB statement hints at encouraging — or even mandating — retail savings be redirected into government-prioritized capital markets.Institutional Adoption: Billionaire hedge fund manager Philippe Laffont’s recent CNBC confession that he regrets not buying Bitcoin sparks a broader conversation about how major allocators are waking up late — but surely — to Bitcoin’s potential.Notable Quote:“This is what it looks like when the world really wakes up to Bitcoin” — Steven Lubka
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Jun 27, 2025 • 50min
Bitcoin Over $100K for 43 Days & TradFi is Finally Noticing
Bitcoin continues its historic streak—43 consecutive days closing above $100,000. The Swan Signal crew dives into what this milestone means, including comparisons to Joe DiMaggio’s legendary hitting streak and the waning attention from normies, despite Bitcoin reaching all-time highs.Steven shares insight on why emerging markets and Bitcoin have outperformed, citing Lynn Alden’s early calls. Meanwhile, John highlights how the broader TradFi world is just starting to wake up to Bitcoin’s disruptive potential—despite cringe moments like Brian Armstrong pitching Bitcoin as a “new” idea or Wall Street macro types clumsily suggesting gold/oil-backed stablecoins from geopolitical rivals.Other key points:Bitcoin treasury plays are seeing early-stage momentum, with large speculative capital still sitting on the sidelines.The Genius Act, recently passed, lays the regulatory groundwork for stablecoins—some say this could bolster dollar dominance while indirectly boosting Bitcoin.Stablecoin growth is explained as a stepping stone to Bitcoin, not a competitor.Discussion on whether the classic 4-year Bitcoin cycle is dead, with some leaning toward a slower, more mature “Saylor Cycle” structure.Notable Quotes:“Listen to Bitcoiners. If you just get your 40 hours per week in, you’ll know the answer to all questions in life.”“There’s boredom above $100K… and retail is nowhere to be found.”
Swan Private helps HNWI, companies, trusts, and other entities go beyond legacy finance with BItcoin. Learn more at swan.com/private. Put Bitcoin into your IRA and own your future. Check out swan.com/ira.Swan Vault makes advanced Bitcoin security simple. Learn more at swan.com/vault.

Jun 6, 2025 • 1h 3min
Nothing Stops This Train
Trump–Elon “Breakup”: The show kicks off with the high-profile political and cultural split between Donald Trump and Elon Musk. The hosts speculate whether the split was coordinated to help Elon politically, and explore what it says about naive techno-optimism in politics versus the hard constraints of monetary and fiscal reality.“Nothing Stops This Train” Theme: Echoing Lynn Alden and Luke Gromen, the crew reaffirms that the U.S. fiscal path is locked into deficit and debt expansion. Cutting entitlements or defense is politically impossible, and the only off-ramp might be a miraculous AI-driven productivity boom—which is unlikely to come fast enough.Bitcoin as the Hedge: Elon’s blind spot may be failing to recognize that broken money, not governance inefficiency, is the core problem. The team discusses how Bitcoin fits as the solution—an asset to protect against monetary debasement and fiscal irresponsibility.Bitcoin Treasury Companies: A major segment explores the rise of corporate entities accumulating Bitcoin via debt and equity markets. The panel rebuts concerns that this resembles the ICO mania of 2017, arguing that debt levels are low, strategies are sound, and this trend is still early.AI and The Fourth Turning: Brady and the team expand on the societal impact of rapid technological change, combining AI, institutional decline, and Bitcoin adoption into a transformative fourth turning moment.Swan Private and Client Stories: They wrap with a heartfelt story about helping a client stay convicted during the FTX collapse, illustrating Swan Private’s mission of hands-on, relationship-driven Bitcoin education and wealth preservation.
Swan Private helps HNWI, companies, trusts, and other entities go beyond legacy finance with BItcoin. Learn more at swan.com/private. Put Bitcoin into your IRA and own your future. Check out swan.com/ira.Swan Vault makes advanced Bitcoin security simple. Learn more at swan.com/vault.

May 23, 2025 • 57min
Bitcoin Hits All-time Highs and the Fiat System Cracks
Alex Stanczyk and John Haar from Swan Private share insights on Bitcoin hitting a new high of $111K, emphasizing its resilience against traditional market volatility. They explore the implications of institutional inflows, predicting $425 billion by 2026, and the necessity of supportive policies for Bitcoin's adoption. The duo discusses investment strategies, cautioning against high-risk leveraged stocks while advocating a buy-and-hold approach. They also highlight the unique benefits of working with Swan for long-term Bitcoin wealth creation.

May 16, 2025 • 51min
$500K Bitcoin Predictions & Institutional Game Theory
Explore the thrilling predictions of Bitcoin soaring to $500K, fueled by bullish sentiment and institutional buying. Hear about the significant corporate treasury demand for Bitcoin, marking a potential 'speculative attack' on fiat currencies. Uncover the fallout from a $400M Coinbase hack that raises crucial security concerns. Delve into the revolutionary concept of digital scarcity and how Bitcoin ensures authentic digital assets. This discussion blends market dynamics with the future impact of corporate investments in Bitcoin.

May 9, 2025 • 55min
No One Is Bullish Enough — Bitcoin’s Real Run Starts Now!
In this high-energy episode, Steven Lubka joins Swan Signal Live to discuss the resurgence of Bitcoin, macroeconomic shifts, and the rise of vibes-driven investing. Bitcoin surged over 30% in the past month, breaking above $103K amid easing U.S.-China trade tensions and a “wait and see” stance from the Federal Reserve. Lubka and the hosts break down how Bitcoin is thriving as both a risk-on asset and a safe haven in a volatile economic environment.They explore the emergence of leveraged Bitcoin equities — with companies like 21.co, Strive, and BTC Inc. launching MicroStrategy-style acquisition vehicles. Michael Saylor’s use of AI for novel financial instruments, including perpetual dividend products, is also highlighted.State-level Bitcoin adoption accelerates: New Hampshire authorizes a strategic Bitcoin reserve (up to 5% of state funds), Missouri eliminates state capital gains tax (including for Bitcoin), and Arizona passes limited digital asset legislation. Light-hearted moments include celebrating a Villanova grad becoming the new Pope, and Steak ‘n Shake preparing to accept Bitcoin payments.From market analysis to memes and sunlight-fueled asset management, the show delivers sharp insights with signature Swan humor and energy.Macro Environment UpdateBitcoin up over 30% in 30 days, now above $103K.Fed adopts a “wait and see” stance amid tariffs and economic uncertainty.Signs of de-escalation in US-China trade tensions and emerging UK trade deals.The market is reacting positively, with Bitcoin outpacing the S&P 500.Bitcoin as Dual-Threat AssetSteven highlights Bitcoin’s unique position as both a risk-on growth asset and a hedge against economic upheaval.Bitcoin’s performance decoupling from traditional equities is becoming more visible.Rise of Leveraged Bitcoin EquitiesSeveral entities (e.g., Strive, 21.co, BTC Inc.) launching MicroStrategy-style SPACs and Bitcoin acquisition vehicles.Michael Saylor’s innovative use of AI for financial engineering detailed in a behind-the-scenes segment.Strategic Bitcoin Reserve AdoptionNew Hampshire becomes the first U.S. state to authorize a Bitcoin strategic reserve (up to 5% of state funds).Missouri scraps state capital gains tax (including on Bitcoin).Arizona’s weaker digital assets fund legislation discussed.Fun & CultureCelebration of a Villanova grad becoming Pope.Steak 'n Shake to accept Bitcoin — potential next corporate treasury candidate?JD Vance announced as speaker at the Bitcoin 2025 Vegas conference.Steven Lubka’s upcoming panel: “Bitcoin's Intersection of Health, Wealth, and Sunlight”.
Swan Private helps HNWI, companies, trusts, and other entities go beyond legacy finance with BItcoin. Learn more at swan.com/private. Put Bitcoin into your IRA and own your future. Check out swan.com/ira.Swan Vault makes advanced Bitcoin security simple. Learn more at swan.com/vault.

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May 3, 2025 • 1h 6min
MSTR's $84 Billion Play - Bitcoin's Bullish Setup - w/ Ben Werkman
Join Ben Werkman, Chief Investment Officer at Swan and a MicroStrategy expert, as he dives into MSTR's groundbreaking expansion of its financial strategies, now aiming for a $42 billion setup. They discuss Bitcoin's impressive outperformance against tech stocks, showcasing its evolution into digital gold. The podcast explores how Bitcoin helps navigate macroeconomic uncertainties and its significance in global finance, particularly through innovative tactics like STRIKE and STRIFE, potentially unlocking trillions for institutional capital.

Apr 25, 2025 • 59min
Bitcoin's best week since the November rally!
Main Topics:This week’s episode of Swan Signal Live delivers a powerful mix of Bitcoin analysis, macroeconomic insights, and a dose of Swan-inspired creatine meme lore. The team dives into the ongoing “creatine craze” sparked by Brandon Quittem, which made waves even at institutional events like the Bitwise conference. Then it's all business—Bitcoin’s 10K+ weekly price rally is dissected, especially in contrast to traditional markets like the S&P 500, which are still reeling.The conversation intensifies as the hosts break down a pivotal speech by Bessent from the Trump administration on reforming global financial institutions and pushing back against IMF “mission creep.” The big picture? A strategic reordering of the global monetary system with Bitcoin emerging as a vital asset in this uncertain landscape.Key Insights:Bitcoin has decoupled meaningfully from traditional assets, outperforming the S&P 500 amid macro turbulence.The Trump pivot—marked by a shift from Lutnick to Bessent—may have sparked the current market rebound.Twenty One Capital’s emergence, backed by Tether and SoftBank, positions it as a major MicroStrategy competitor, validating Sailor’s playbook and possibly fueling institutional FOMO.Fascinating discussion on post-halving Bitcoin cycles and how macroeconomic forces now overshadow supply-driven patterns.A sci-fi-tinged look at the future of human and AI integration, ethics, and the value of Bitcoin in an increasingly weird and tech-driven world.
Swan Private helps HNWI, companies, trusts, and other entities go beyond legacy finance with BItcoin. Learn more at swan.com/private. Put Bitcoin into your IRA and own your future. Check out swan.com/ira.Swan Vault makes advanced Bitcoin security simple. Learn more at swan.com/vault.

Apr 18, 2025 • 1h
Bullish set up for Bitcoin! - What are BitBonds?
Macro Markets Update: John Haar notes markets have stabilized this week after recent volatility, driven largely by significant global trade and monetary reforms initiated by the Trump administration. Haar emphasizes the complexity and potential hurdles these reforms face, including public perception and economic disruptions.Global Trade and Tariff Impacts: Discussion on the administration's rapid tariff policy adjustments, the potential impacts on equities and treasury yields, and the need for clearer policy direction to sustain market confidence.Bitcoin Market: Steven Lubka and Jason Bassett highlight Bitcoin's relative strength despite broader market turbulence. Liquidity conditions and potential governmental Bitcoin purchases could significantly drive price appreciation.Federal Reserve and Interest Rates: The panel debates the Fed's stance on inflation and interest rates, criticizing Jerome Powell’s historically reactive policy decisions. They argue tariffs aren't inherently inflationary beyond a one-time price adjustment, suggesting the Fed should consider rate cuts.Bit Bonds and Bitcoin Integration: Exploration of "Bit Bonds," proposed Bitcoin-linked government bonds. While appealing conceptually, the panel agrees widespread adoption faces significant hurdles, particularly for sovereign issuers, but may hold potential for corporate or local government entities.Bitcoin Mining and Environment: Addressing ongoing misinformation, the panel highlights Bitcoin mining's environmental benefits, especially methane capture at gas flaring sites.
Swan Private helps HNWI, companies, trusts, and other entities go beyond legacy finance with BItcoin. Learn more at swan.com/private. Put Bitcoin into your IRA and own your future. Check out swan.com/ira.Swan Vault makes advanced Bitcoin security simple. Learn more at swan.com/vault.

Apr 15, 2025 • 50min
Trade War Panic!
In this episode, the Swan team dives into the week’s tumultuous markets, triggered by escalating tariff tensions between the US and China. With sweeping tariff announcements initially roiling equities, a sudden pivot by the administration briefly stabilized stock prices—yet concerns remain about stress in market “plumbing,” particularly negative swap spreads and rising bond yields. The discussion highlights how quickly financial conditions can shift, forcing the Federal Reserve’s hand toward potential liquidity measures or yield curve control.On the Bitcoin front, the hosts note that BTC’s performance has diverged notably from equities and other risk assets, signaling that institutional involvement—and global macro uncertainty—may be ushering in a new era for Bitcoin. They also explore rumors of Russia and China conducting energy trades in BTC, plus the potential of a US “Strategic Bitcoin Reserve,” as nation-states weigh the benefits of a neutral reserve asset.
Swan Private helps HNWI, companies, trusts, and other entities go beyond legacy finance with BItcoin. Learn more at swan.com/private. Put Bitcoin into your IRA and own your future. Check out swan.com/ira.Swan Vault makes advanced Bitcoin security simple. Learn more at swan.com/vault.