
High Energy Health Podcast
Join Dr. Dawson Church, a best-selling science writer, to explore the leading edge of health and happiness, along with practical techniques to maximize your wellbeing.
Latest episodes

Nov 9, 2023 • 48min
Mindful Investing: Jonathan DeYoe and Dawson Church in Conversation
Jonathan DeYoe is a Lutheran seminarian turned Buddhist academic turned financial adviser. He is the author of Mindful Investing: Right Focus, Better Outcome, Greater Well-Being. Jonathan has been investing for over four decades and meditating for 25 years. DeYoe started managing investments for clients at Wall Street firms before launching his own financial planning firm in 2001. After 20 years, Jonathan merged his firm into the national financial planning firm EP Wealth. Today, Jonathan is a senior VP and partner at EP Wealth, and his Mindful Money organization is focused on financial education and coaching for people who don’t have access to traditional advice.
Here he and Dawson share their passion for making money part of your spiritual journey:
Jonathan’s background
The meaning of life
Meditation
How money and spirituality are vital parts of life
Done correctly, money isn’t about piles of wealth, it’s about love
What money can do for our children, our communities, our later lives
The definition of mindfulness
Investing
All investments fall into two categories: investment or renting
Inflation is the real problem, the constant decline in our units of value
Equities protect against inflation
Dividends increase at 2 - 3 times the rate of inflation
Cash and bonds aren’t safer in the long run
Keep your investment plans ultra simple
Start with global equity portfolio
Asking about the size of returns is the wrong question because we don't know the future
Studies show that the more time you spend picking stocks, the less likely you are to be a successful investor
To learn more about Jonathan DeYoe and to purchase his books: https://mindful.money/
For more about host Dr. Dawson Church: https://dawsonchurch.com/
#eft #meditation #money #investing #blissbrain #highenergyhealth #mindtomatter #mindfulmoney #mindfulinvesting

Nov 2, 2023 • 41min
The Existential Dilemmas Behind Chronic Illness: Jerry Kantor and Dawson Church in Conversation
Jerry Kantor is a faculty member of the Ontario College of Homeopathic Medicine and owner of Vital Force Health Care LLC, a Boston-area homeopathy and acupuncture practice. The first acupuncturist to receive an academic appointment at Harvard Medical School’s Department of Anesthesiology, Kantor is the author of The Emotional Roots of Chronic Illness, and The Toxic Relationship Cure.
Here Jerry shares his insights with Dawson on:
Homeopathy: uses the law of similars, using like to treat like
Homeopathy isn’t diagnosis driven
Homeopathy trains you to convert what people tell you into a rubric of meaning
Medicine is fragmented, and the psychological roots are not considered
During Lincoln’s time the government was full of homeopaths
There are 5 existential quandaries at the root of our existence
Existential questions don’t have a yes or no answer
Homeopathy releases the charge underlying the five quandaries
Often one dose is enough, and the vital force responds over 4 or 5 weeks
Remedies trick the system into treating a chronic problem into an acute problem
To learn more about Jerry and to purchase his books: https://vitalforcehealthcare.com/
And to reach Dawson: https://dawsonchurch.com/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #eft #homeopathy #chronicillness #highenergyhealth

Oct 26, 2023 • 50min
The Awakened Brain: Lisa Miller and Dawson Church in Conversation
Dr. Lisa Miller is the author of The Awakened Brain: The Psychology of Spirituality. She is founder of the Spirituality Mind Body Institute at Columbia University and has authored over 100 peer-reviewed articles on spirituality and mental health in youth and family. She is also the former President of the American Psychological Association’s (APA) Society of Psychology & Spirituality, and editor of The Oxford University Press Handbook of Psychology & Spirituality and Editor-in-Chief of the APA journal Spirituality in Clinical Practice.
Here she and Dawson enthusiastically share their insights on:
We’re born with a natural state of spiritual awareness
Spirituality is ⅓ innate, and ⅔ culturally formed
Everyone has an awakened brain naturally
Dr. Miller’s research
Depression
Tsai’s study of 3,000 vets with PTSD
How trauma can expand our ability for love and forgiveness
Why our culture has no road map for these spiritual growth spurts
The different questions we ask ourselves at each life stage
Seeing that often the awakening takes the form of an existential crisis
You can access the transcendent through service, meditation, nature, other ways
Dr. Lisa Miller can be reached at: www.lisamillerphd.com
And find host Dr. Dawson Church at: https://dawsonchurch.com/
#mindtomatter #blissbrain #eft #spirituality #theawakenedbrain #highenergyhealth #psychology

Oct 12, 2023 • 48min
Three Minutes a Day: Richard Dixey and Dawson Church in Conversation
Richard Dixey, PhD is the author of Three Minutes a Day: A Fourteen Week Course to Learn Meditation and Transform Your Life and a senior faculty member at Dharma College in Berkeley, California. A research scientist and a lifelong student of Buddhism who holds advanced degrees in biophysics and the history and philosophy of science, Dixey directed a bioelectronic research unit at a London hospital before becoming CEO of his own biotech company. He moved to the US in 2007 to devote himself to teaching meditation, deepening his own practice, and running the Light of Buddhadharma Foundation in India with his wife Wangmo, the eldest daughter of the well-known Tibetan lama Tarthang Tulku.
Here he and Dawson share about:
What the world really is and what we believe it is are very different
Meditation is the process of seeing things as they actually are
The 5 obstacles that stand in the way of our peace of mind
The history of meditation
Meditation myths
How we live in a map made by the mind
The benefit of meditation practices that are direct, quick, and experiential
If you’re to establish a change in your routine it requires effort
The 5 senses we live in are just like 5 degrees of perception
To learn more about Dr. Richard Dixey and to purchase his books: https://www.richarddixey.com/
To connect with host Dr. Dawson Church: http://dawsongift.com/
#meditation #transformyourlife #eft #eftuniverse #mindtomatter #blissbrain #buddhism

Oct 5, 2023 • 44min
Healing Collective Trauma: Thomas Hübl and Dawson Church in Conversation
Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change by integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science.
Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2013. He is the author of Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma—and Our World (2023) and Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds (2020), which was featured in Oprah Daily as one of “10 Books to Help with Old, Painful Traumas”. He has published articles in Harvard Health and the Journal of Awareness-Based Systems Change.
Hübl has served as an advisor and guest faculty for organizations and universities and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. As a coach and trainer, he supports CEOs and leaders in their personal and professional development and in becoming trauma informed. He has presented talks and taught workshops on resilience, collective healing, and relational competencies for healing trauma at Harvard Medical School since 2019.
Born in Austria, Hübl studied medicine at the University of Vienna and worked as a paramedic for nine years. He left his studies at the University in the 1990s to begin a new life path focused on teaching meditation and mindfulness-based awareness practices. He began holding retreats in Austria and Germany in the early 2000s and noticed that many participants began to voice some of their deeply held intergenerational wounds stemming from the second World War.
As these programs evolved over the next two decades, he developed the Collective Trauma Integration Process for working with individual, ancestral, and collective trauma. This model promotes a safe exploration of sharing and reflection, guided by a facilitation process that supports radical openness, transparent communication, mindful awareness, and refined relational competencies.
Hübl has led large-scale events that have brought together thousands of Germans and Israelis to acknowledge, face, and heal the cultural shadow left by the Holocaust. Over the past ten years, his intensive training programs have addressed the persistent challenges of our time – climate anxiety, racism, gender violence, and political polarization, among others – through the lens of individual, ancestral, and collective trauma.
The interdisciplinary nature of Hübl’s work has been shared with and practiced by organizations and working groups of physicians, psychologists, and therapists. Since 2019, Hübl has hosted an annual Collective Trauma Summit which has brought together hundreds of prominent speakers and draws hundreds of thousands of attendees from around the world.
In 2017, Hübl and his wife, Israeli artist Yehudit Sasportas, founded The Pocket Project, an NGO dedicated to addressing and integrating collective trauma throughout the world. Trauma-informed leadership, post-genocide reform, and a practice called “global social witnessing” are key areas of focus and activity.
For more about Thomas, his books, podcast, and courses: https://thomashuebl.com/
And for more about host Dr. Dawson Church: http://dawsongift.com/
#eft #eftuniverse #highenergyhealth #mindtomatter #blissbrain #collectivetrauma #trauma #healing

Sep 28, 2023 • 48min
Shifting Pain and Addictions Using the Body: Bob Gardner and Dawson Church in Conversation
Bob Gardner is author of the book ‘Built for Freedom’ and host of the podcast ‘Alive and Free’. He uses a body-based approach to happiness, health, and well-being incorporating tools like martial arts, breathwork, functional psychology, and deep tissue release. He specializes in helping people through patterns of pain, depression, anxiety, and addiction.
Here Bob and Dawson discuss:
When the brain has an opinion about what’s going on in the body, how do we change it
How tension in body can eventually produce pain, and what bodywork can do to help
The way breath, movement, and voice produce neurotransmitters
When pain, addictions, posture, all these things that can affect the body’s pH
Relaxation protocol before bed
Starting and ending of your day right
Benefits of pattern interrupts
For more information about Bob, his work, and his incredible book: https://www.thefreedomspecialist.com/
And for more on host Dr. Dawson Church: http://dawsongift.com/
#eft #eftuniverse #mindtomatter #highenergyhealth #blissbrain #builtforfreedom #addiction #depression #shiftingpain

Sep 13, 2023 • 50min
Power of Your Sacred Feminine Self: Rhoda Shapiro and Amanda Wonderland in Conversation
Rhoda Shapiro has worked for a decade as a mindfulness and meditation teacher. She is also a tantric educator, training women to step into their power by way of meditation, movement, dance, expression, and yoga. She has facilitated women’s circles and taught workshops throughout Los Angeles and in the San Francisco Bay Area. Rhoda’s YouTube channel, which has amassed thousands of subscribers, features yogic practices to empower viewers. Rhoda is also the Founder/Editor-in-Chief of The Milpitas Beat, a Silicon Valley-based newspaper. She lives in the Bay Area with her husband, Eric, and their two sons. She is the author of Fierce Woman: Wake up your Badass Self and Magic Within: Womb-Centered Wisdom to Realize the Power of Your Sacred Feminine Self.
Awaken Your Sacred Feminine Self and Reclaim the Fierce, Vibrant Goddess You Are! You hold an awesome power within―the power to heal, transform, love, and live the kind of joyful life that grabs hold of the soul and never lets go. That power has been under your nose, literally, this whole time. Rhoda Jordan Shapiro guides you on an inspiring journey toward knowing, loving, and celebrating your body. Her new book, Magic Within, features rituals, affirmations, meditations, journaling, and breathwork that can help you heal and connect to your womb. These practices can bolster every aspect of your life, from money and career to wellness and spiritual fulfillment. Even if you don't have a womb, this book offers ways to align with its energy and manifest your desires. When you connect to your inner power, you can love and express your own unique magic without any constraints or hesitations.
To learn more about Rhoda: https://rhodajordanshapiro.com/
And to connect with host Amanda Wonderland: https://www.amandawonderland.com/
#eft #eftuniverse #highenergyhealth #magicwithin #feminine #mindtomatter #blissbrain #fiercewoman

10 snips
Sep 6, 2023 • 49min
Chakras and the Vagus Nerve: C.J. Llewelyn and Amanda Wonderland in Conversation
C.J. Llewelyn, a licensed counselor specializing in trauma and addiction, joins guest host Amanda Wonderland, a clinical EFT practitioner, to unpack the powerful synergy between chakras and the vagus nerve. They explore how these energy systems influence emotional well-being and healing. Insights into polyvagal theory reveal the importance of safety and communication in trauma recovery. Their discussion includes practical techniques like eco-meditation and tapping to enhance mental health, emphasizing the compassionate energy within us all.

Aug 28, 2023 • 43min
Family, Connection, and the Crisis in Mental Health: Daniel Bergner and Dawson Church in Conversation
Daniel Bergner is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and the author of six books of nonfiction, including The Mind and the Moon, Sing for Your Life and God of the Rodeo. Daniel’s writing has appeared in the Atlantic, Granta, Harper’s, Mother Jones, Talk, and more.
Here Daniel and Dawson discuss:
Daniels’s journey
Daniel’s brother who was diagnosed with psychoses
How fear locks into managing risk using medication
Danie’s brother today: 40 years and he’s living a fruitful non medicated life
The under researched phenomena of how we do often get better as we get older
The premise that brains are organs; they just need the right chemical to correct
The case history of Caroline who heard voices; some urging her to harm
Caroline’s story and how now she works with the Hearing Voices Network and a suicide prevention hotline
The third case history of David, wrestling with depression and anxiety
David’s story and how he is a civil rights litigator who has argued in front of the Supreme Court
Why the US is one of only 2 countries that allows drug companies to advertise to patients
The use of medication in regard to mental health
What about if rather than getting rid of the symptoms; we have more modest aims
Why service is part of connecting, bringing people out of their darkest times
Being rescued by rescuing someone else
For more information about Daniel and his books: http://www.danielbergner.com/
And more about host, Dr. Dawson Church: https://www.dawsongift.com/
#eft #eftuniverse #blissbrain #mindtomatter #mentalhealth #themindandthemoon

Aug 14, 2023 • 45min
Say It Out Loud: Vasavi Kumar and Amanda Wonderland in Conversation
Vasavi Kumar is often described as the “Queen of Saying It Out Loud.” A first-generation Indian immigrant raised on Long Island NY, Vasavi has relentlessly searched to find her own voice, access the freedom of her creative spirit, and help others along the way …out loud.
When she was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at the age of 19, she made it her mission to understand how her mind works, starting with making room to hear herself think.
Her mission is to share everything — the good, bad, and ugly — in order to teach a more mindful, practical, and simple way of running every aspect of your life.
Through her Say It Out Loud podcast, keynote talks, group programs, social media, and weekly email newsletters, Vasavi has taught thousands of entrepreneurs, creatives, and artists from all walks of life how to work through any situation ...by saying it out loud.
Vasavi is a Former TV host, Licensed Therapist, Voiceover Artist, and Creator of the Say It Out Loud Safe Haven, an online support community. She holds dual master's degrees in special education from Hofstra University and Social Work from Columbia University.
Most recently she was on the May cover of Austin Woman Magazine, and has been featured on VH1, NBC, FOX, Good Day Austin, CW, WSJ, and many more!
Her book, Say It Out Loud, was published by New World Library in May 2023.
For more about Vasavi: http://vasavikumar.com/
And to find guest host, Amanda Wonderland: https://www.amandawonderland.com/
#eft #eftuniverse #sayitoutloud #mindtomatter #blissbrain #highenergyhealth #thepowerofyourvoice