Real Photo Show with Michael Chovan-Dalton

"I was sort of like the teenage cub photographer of the Black Panther paper. They let me move around with all of the leaders of the party, I would ride around with them and take pictures and work on the newspaper." Jeffrey Henson Scales has been photographing since he was 11 years old and he started working for the Black Panther Newspaper as a young teenager. When he was 14 Time magazine ran one of his Black Panther photos. His interests would then turn to filmmaking, stage management where he would work with Minny Ripperton, and creating iconic album covers with bands such as Gamma2 and Arrested Development. He is currently a photo editor at the New York Times, but his first love of being a photographer has never left him and his encounter with cancer really drove that home. Jeffrey sat down with Kai and Michael at the SVA MFA Photo Big Room theater to talk about these things and more. This episode sponsored by the School of Visual Arts MFA Photography, Video, & Related Media - Charles Traub, Chair. Social: http://jeffreyscales.tumblr.com https://www.instagram.com/jeffreyhensonscales/ https://www.facebook.com/Jeffrey.Henson.Scales https://twitter.com/JHensonScales Website: http://www.jeffreyscales.com Book: https://www.amazon.com/House-Jeffrey-Henson-Scales/dp/0997530642 Visit www.thephotoshow.org We are realphotoshow on Twitter/IG/FB Follow us on Twitter twitter.com/realphotoshow and on Instagram instagram.com/realphotoshow/ Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/realphotoshow Music by Giancarlo T. Roma and Kai McBride

"I was in London, Mary Ellen was working there (in Seattle) and I think it was the first night she was there, she saw Tiny get out of a cab in the parking lot of the Monastery night club and she said, Oh my god, this is a film." Photo Credit: © Lisen Stibeck, Mary Ellen and Martin in Iceland, 2014 Filmmaker Martin Bell talks about how he and Mary Ellen Mark came to document Tiny and how it began a 33 year long collaboration and partnership. Martin's films have won many awards and Streetwise was nominated for an Oscar. We have a lengthy conversation about dealing with tough subject and the issue of exploitation. We also discuss the making and release of their last collaboration, a follow up to Streetwise, Tiny: The Life of Erin Blackwell and what Falkland Road Inc. is doing going forward. Web: http://www.tinythefilm.com http://www.falkland.com http://www.maryellenmark.com Social: https://twitter.com/maryEllen_mark https://www.facebook.com/maryellenmark Visit www.thephotoshow.org We are realphotoshow on Twitter/IG/FB Follow us on Twitter twitter.com/realphotoshow and on Instagram instagram.com/realphotoshow/ Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/realphotoshow Music by Giancarlo T. Roma and Kai McBride

"It's not always just the gender, it's the lives women lead and that makes it very difficult to be part of the commercial route…you don't fit the model of the young artist, in my case being deeply immersed in the domestic world raising a family, unable to pursue the things that the artistic model demands." -Tricia Wright Pen + Brush, a nearly 123-year-old non-profit focused on creating access to the art world for emerging and mid-career women artists, draws on a deep network of galleries, non-profits, organizations, and associations to support their mission. The network functions to build a support system that showcases undervalued art by women in order to gain traction within the primary art market to help foster their careers. Kai and Michael sat down with Janice Sands - Executive Director, Dawn Delikat - Associative Executive Director, and Tricia Wright - Artist at Pen + Brush, in their amazing brand new space at 29 East 22nd St NYC. We covered a range of topics including the rich history of the organization in the support of women in the arts and how it has changed over the years to meet the needs of contemporary artists. We also have a great conversation with Tricia about her work and how she uses lens-based constructs to examine issues of domesticity and how she turned to photography to re-contextualize her installation work. Links: Website: http://www.penandbrush.org Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PenandBrushNYC/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/penandbrushnyc/ Website for Tricia Wright: http://www.triciawright.com Instagram for Tricia Wright: https://www.instagram.com/triciamwright/ Visit www.thephotoshow.org We are realphotoshow on Twitter/IG/FB Follow us on Twitter twitter.com/realphotoshow and on Instagram instagram.com/realphotoshow/ Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/realphotoshow Music by Giancarlo T. Roma and Kai McBride

"I decided it was time to do something that I really love and that had to combine cameras and making things." Justin Waldinger founded Tap & Dye because he wanted to be able to use his design skills to do something he really cared about, so he quit his job and started his own company. Tap & Dye is now known internationally as the place to get high end custom leather straps and accessories for your gear. Justin has also tapped into the #keepfilmalive movement with his patches and pins. Check out his website and Instagram and maybe treat yourself to a little hand-made leather something for your camera. Links: Website: http://www.tapanddye.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tapanddye/ Justin's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/justinwaldinger/ Visit www.thephotoshow.org We are realphotoshow on Twitter/IG/FB Follow us on Twitter twitter.com/realphotoshow and on Instagram instagram.com/realphotoshow/ Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/realphotoshow Music by @pataphysics-1 on Soundcloud

"That very same day that I started I was shot by an Israeli soldier. I was shot with an…M6 or M16 rifle…and I almost certainly should have died..." Yola Monakhov Stockton has so many great stories to tell. Born in the former Soviet Union, grew up in NYC, became a conflict photographer, got shot, transitioned to the art world, published a book, and now teaches in Buffalo. Kai and Michael had a fantastic, and a touch long, conversation with Yola just after she finished up her panel discussion at Photoville on photography and education. Photo of Yola by Nick Butler Links: Website: http://yolamonakhov.com/ Gallery: http://www.rickwesterfineart.com/yola-monakhov-stockton/ Book: https://www.schiltpublishing.com/publishing/authors/yola-monakhov-stockton/ Visit www.thephotoshow.org We are realphotoshow on Twitter/IG/FB Follow us on Twitter twitter.com/realphotoshow and on Instagram instagram.com/realphotoshow/ Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/realphotoshow Music by @pataphysics-1 on Soundcloud

"Books make us feel less alone…That's why I make books." -Thomas Roma A special release from thePhotoShow without your co-hosts. Thomas Roma and Susan Kismaric held a conversation about publishing photo books and Roma's launch of SPQR Editions. The talk took place at Affirmation Arts in NYC where SPQR's first five books on were on display and for sale with the photographers on hand to sign all of the books. The books are by Yoav Horesh, Jeffrey Henson Scales, Stephen Hilger, Dennis Santella, and thePhotoShow's very own Kai McBride. Michael Allen, the director of Affirmation Arts will introduce the guests. Just a heads up, the audio is a little rougher than normal. Links: Website: http://www.spqreditions.com Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/s?marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&me=A2EX0V4V16T0XO&merchant=A2EX0V4V16T0XO&redirect=true Website: http://www.affirmationarts.com Visit www.thephotoshow.org We are realphotoshow on Twitter/IG/FB Follow us on Twitter twitter.com/realphotoshow and on Instagram instagram.com/realphotoshow/ Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/realphotoshow

"One of the big conversations that Ben and I have always had and always kind of bristled against together is this idea…that all potential is exhausted in photography, and so there is this sense that there is nothing left for photography, which we couldn't possibly believe." -Nat Nat Ward and Ben Alper were busy organizing all kinds of great events surrounding their successful online image-based conversation site, a new nothing when we sat down to record this episode at Nat's Bushwick Brooklyn apartment. A New Nothing promotes visual dialogue between two artists by having them post an image in reaction to the other's post. The site has received a lot of attention which has translated into an exhibition in Moscow, A Great Sum in Parts, and a book, "A New Nothing," that debuted at the Independent Art Book Fair. Links: Website: http://anewnothing.com/ Website: http://www.nat-ward.com/ Website: http://benalper.com/ Moscow Show: http://osnovagallery.com/exhibitions Book: http://theretherenow.bigcartel.com/product/a-new-nothing-ben-alper-nat-ward Visit www.thephotoshow.org We are realphotoshow on Twitter/IG/FB Follow us on Twitter twitter.com/realphotoshow and on Instagram instagram.com/realphotoshow/ Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/realphotoshow Music by @pataphysics-1 on Soundcloud

Michael and Kai met up with Richard Bram while he was getting ready to move from New York to London. Richard's book, Richard Bram New York, had just been published and symbolically it had become Richard's summation of his time as a street photographer in New York City. We discussed his early induction into In Public, a street photographer collective, where he met Matt Stuart, his start as a PR photographer, and how he taught himself photography at a public library. Photo of Richard Bram by John Maloof Links: Website: http://www.richardbramphoto.com Peanut Press Books: http://peanutpressbooks.com/products/new-york In Public Photo Collective: http://in-public.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/photobram Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/photobram52/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/richard.bram.39 Visit www.thephotoshow.org We are realphotoshow on Twitter/IG/FB Follow us on Twitter twitter.com/realphotoshow and on Instagram instagram.com/realphotoshow/ Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/realphotoshow Music by @pataphysics-1 on Soundcloud

"….the fact is most of how we understand life…we do in essentially narrative terms and the moment that you make a photograph you step outside of that. There's no before, there's no after, there's no story, there's only a set of…quite trivial facts that you can look at that imply all sorts of things." Leo Rubinfien believes in working carefully and methodically. He thinks of his photographs as being part of and describing a large global community. Photographs will change in meaning over time and they will change in meaning as more photographs are made and put next to each other. This idea that the resulting body of work is greater than any one moment or person gives him a sense of freedom to travel and photograph at his own pace. Leo was once conflicted about being thought of as a writer as well as a photographer but now he has embraced both aspects of his life, which is great for the rest of us because he has written some of the great essays on photography and photographers and has put together some amazing retrospectives as well. Links: Bio from National Gallery of Art: http://www.nga.gov/content/ngaweb/press/exh/3632/rubinfien.html Photos and Bio from Steven Kasher Gallery: http://www.stevenkasher.com/artists/leo-rubinfien Slideshow of different works mentioned during the show: http://thephotoshow.org/slideshow-leo-rubinfien/ Visit www.thephotoshow.org We are realphotoshow on Twitter/IG/FB Follow us on Twitter twitter.com/realphotoshow and on Instagram instagram.com/realphotoshow/ Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/realphotoshow Music by @pataphysics-1 on Soundcloud

Joe Aguirre and Kramer O'Neill join Kai and Michael for the first multi-guest show. Joe and Kramer both belong to different photo collectives. These modern day international photo clubs/societies have grown simultaneously with the rise of sharing photos through zines, blogs, and social media. Joe and Kramer also share their ideas about what being called a street photographer means, if it means anything at all. Links: Joe Aguirre Website: http://www.joeaguirrephotography.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joe_aguirre_/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joe.aguirre Twitter: https://twitter.com/thoughtlesshero Tumblr: http://joe-aguirre.tumblr.com Kramer O'Neill Website: http://krameroneill.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/krameroneill/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/krameroneill Tumblr: http://picturesofpeopleandthings.com Visit www.thephotoshow.org We are realphotoshow on Twitter/IG/FB Follow us on Twitter twitter.com/realphotoshow and on Instagram instagram.com/realphotoshow/ Like us on Facebook www.facebook.com/realphotoshow Music by @pataphysics-1 on Soundcloud